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AMD Ryzen 5 4600H vs Intel Core i7-10510U vs Intel Core i5-10210U

AMD Ryzen 5 4600H

► remove from comparison AMD R5 4600H

The AMD Ryzen 5 4600H is a mobile SoC for big laptops based on the Renoir architecture. The 4600H integrates six of the eight cores based on the Zen 2 microarchitecture. They are clocked at 3 (guaranteed base clock) to 4 GHz (Turbo) and support SMT / Hyperthreading (12 threads).

In addition to the six CPU cores, the APU also integrates a Radeon RX Vega 6 integrated graphics adapter with 6 CUs and up to 1500 MHz. The dual channel memory controller supports DDR4-3200 and energy efficient LPDDR4-4266 RAM. Furthermore, 8 MB level 3 cache can be found on the chip. See our hub page on the Renoir Processors for more information.

Performance

The average 4600H in our database matches the Intel Core i7-10875H and even the Core i9-10885H, both significantly more costly chips, in multi-thread performance, giving this Ryzen an outrageously high price-to-performance ratio.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.

Power consumption

The Ryzen 5 chip has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 45 W, a value that laptop makers are free to change to anything between 35 W and 54 W with clock speed and performance changing accordingly as a result. Either way, a high-performance cooling solution is a must for a CPU like this.

The 7 nm TSMC process this APU is built with makes for better-than-average, as of early 2022, energy efficiency.

Intel Core i7-10510U

► remove from comparison Intel i7-10510U

The Intel Core i7-10510U is a power efficient quad-core SoC for notebooks based on the Comet Lake (CML-U) generation and was announced in August 2019. Compared to the similar Whiskey Lake processors (e.g.& Core i7-8665U), the only difference is support for higher memory speeds (DDR4-2666, LPDDR4-2933) and two additional cores in the top model (not in this i7-10510U). The processor cores are clocked between 1.8 and 4.9 GHz (all 4 cores 4.3 GHz max). Thanks to HyperThreading 8 threads can be used. More information on Comet Lake and all the models and articles on it can be found here.

The integrated graphics adapter however is still the same as in the previous generations. It should be still called Intel HD Graphics 620 and clock from 300 - 1150 MHz in the i7. Furthermore, the SoC integrates a VP9 and H.265 de- and encoder and an integrated dual channel DDR4-2666 / LPDDR4-2933 memory controller.

Performance

The average 10510U in our database proves to be an OK mid-range option, its multi-thread benchmark scores hovering near those of the Ryzen 7 2700U and the Core i5-8259U. While not as impressive as the hexa-core Core i7-10710U, the 10510U will make most customers happy, making for short load times and generally pain-free experience.

Thanks to its decent cooling solution and a long-term CPU power limit of 45 W, the Modern 15 A10RB is among the fastest laptops powered by the 10510U that we know of. It can be more than twice as fast in CPU-bound workloads as the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of August 2023.

Power consumption

This Core i7 series chip has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop makers are free to change to anything between 10 W and 25 W resulting in corresponding performance and clock speed changes. By going for the lowest value, it is possible to build passively cooled tablets, laptops, mini-PCs around the i7. Please note that Comet Lake-U chips can briefly consume up to 90 W when under extreme loads.

Last but not the least, the i7-10510U is built with one of the old 14 nm Intel processes for lower-than-average, as of late 2022, energy efficiency.

Intel Core i5-10210U

► remove from comparison Intel i5-10210U

The Intel Core i5-10210U is a power efficient quad-core SoC for notebooks based on the Comet Lake (CML-U) generation and was announced in August 2019. Compared to the similar Whiskey Lake processors (e.g. Core i5-8665U), the only difference is support for higher memory speeds (up to LPDDR4-2933 vs DDR4-2400) and two additional cores in the top model (not in this i5). The processor cores are clocked between 1.6 and 4.2 GHz (all 4 cores 3.9 GHz max). Thanks to Hyper-Threading 8 threads can be used. Compared to the faster i5-10510U, the level 3 cache was reduced from 8 to 6 MB. More information on Comet Lake and all the models and articles on it can be found here.

The integrated graphics adapter however is still the same as in the previous generations. It's still called Intel UHD Graphics 620 and clocked from 300 - 1100 MHz in the i5. Furthermore, the SoC integrates a VP9 and H.265 de- and encoder.

Performance

The average 10210U in our database is just as fast as the AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, the Intel Core i7-8565U and the Intel Core i5-1035G1 are, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. While the i5 is not a performance monster, it sails through basic day-to-day workloads with little effort.

Thanks to its decent cooling solution and a long-term power limit of 30 W, the Frost Canyon NUC (NUC10i5FNK) is among the fastest systems powered by the 10210U that we know of. It can be more than twice as fast in CPU-bound workloads as the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of August 2023.

Power consumption

This Core i5 series chip has a default TDP, also known as the long-term power limit, of 15 W, a value that laptop makers are free to change to anything between 10 W and 25 W with clock speeds and performance changing accordingly as a result. By going for the lowest value, it is possible to build a passively cooled system around the i5. Please note that Comet Lake-U processors can briefly consume as much as 80 W or even 90 W when under heavy loads.

The Core i5-10210U is built with one of the old 14 nm Intel processes for very low, as of mid 2023, energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 5 4600HIntel Core i7-10510UIntel Core i5-10210U
SeriesAMD Renoir (Ryzen 4000 APU)Intel Comet LakeIntel Comet Lake
CodenameRenoir-H (Zen 2)Comet Lake-UComet Lake-U
Series: Comet Lake Comet Lake-U
AMD Ryzen 9 4900H3.3 - 4.4 GHz8 / 16 cores8 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 4800H2.9 - 4.2 GHz8 / 16 cores8 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 4600H « 3 - 4 GHz6 / 12 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10810U1.1 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores12 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10710U1.1 - 4.7 GHz6 / 12 cores12 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10610U1.8 - 4.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10510U « 1.8 - 4.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i5-10310U1.7 - 4.4 GHz4 / 8 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-10210U1.6 - 4.2 GHz4 / 8 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i3-10110U2.1 - 4.1 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 6405U2.4 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Celeron 5205U1.9 GHz2 / 2 cores
Intel Core i7-10810U1.1 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores12 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10710U1.1 - 4.7 GHz6 / 12 cores12 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10610U1.8 - 4.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-10510U1.8 - 4.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i5-10310U1.7 - 4.4 GHz4 / 8 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-10210U « 1.6 - 4.2 GHz4 / 8 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i3-10110U2.1 - 4.1 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 6405U2.4 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Celeron 5205U1.9 GHz2 / 2 cores
Clock3000 - 4000 MHz1800 - 4900 MHz1600 - 4200 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB256 KB256 KB
L2 Cache3 MB1 MB1 MB
L3 Cache8 MB8 MB6 MB
Cores / Threads6 / 124 / 84 / 8
TDP45 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Technology7 nm14 nm14 nm
max. Temp.105 °C100 °C100 °C
SocketFP6BGA1528BGA1528
FeaturesDDR4-3200/LPDDR4-4266 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SMELPDDR3-2133/DDR4-2666/LPDDR4-2933 RAM, PCIe 3, 4 GT/s bus, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, VMX, SMEP, SMAP, MPX, EIST, TM1, TM2, Hyper-Threading, Turbo, SST, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SGXLPDDR3-2133/DDR4-2666/LPDDR4-2933 RAM, PCIe 3, 4 GT/s bus, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, VMX, SMEP, SMAP, MPX, EIST, TM1, TM2, Hyper-Threading, Turbo, SST, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SGX
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 6 (Ryzen 4000/5000) ( - 1500 MHz)Intel UHD Graphics 620 (300 - 1150 MHz)Intel UHD Graphics 620 (300 - 1100 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comark.intel.comark.intel.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 4600H
32.4 pt (45%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - i7-10510U
30.2 pt (42%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - i5-10210U
28.7 pt (40%)
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Single Core
69 Points (48%)
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Multi Core
499 Points (9%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 7713     avg: 8161     median: 8072 (7%)     max: 8786 Points
min: 3626     avg: 3866     median: 3734 (3%)     max: 4239 Points
min: 1794     avg: 3321     median: 3794 (4%)     max: 4376 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 1134     avg: 1145     median: 1142.5 (49%)     max: 1161 Points
min: 1066     avg: 1142     median: 1152 (49%)     max: 1207 Points
min: 797     avg: 974     median: 1062 (45%)     max: 1063 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
min: 428     avg: 445.3     median: 449.5 (50%)     max: 454 Points
min: 362     avg: 436.7     median: 441 (49%)     max: 497 Points
min: 322     avg: 406.8     median: 415 (46%)     max: 428 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
min: 3055     avg: 3233     median: 3229.5 (8%)     max: 3393 Points
min: 1015     avg: 1412     median: 1422 (3%)     max: 1897 Points
min: 722     avg: 1279     median: 1242 (3%)     max: 1820 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 1398     avg: 1428     median: 1425 (9%)     max: 1467 Points
min: 482     avg: 666     median: 678 (4%)     max: 856 Points
min: 320     avg: 609     median: 616 (4%)     max: 790 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 172.1     avg: 176.5     median: 176 (53%)     max: 179 Points
min: 113     avg: 178.4     median: 182 (55%)     max: 202 Points
min: 134     avg: 165.6     median: 166 (50%)     max: 174 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
16.3 Points (21%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
2 Points (51%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
5365 Points (32%)
min: 5740     avg: 6919     median: 7268 (44%)     max: 7748 Points
min: 6410     avg: 6478     median: 6412 (39%)     max: 6613 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
32756 Points (24%)
min: 6763     avg: 19637     median: 25882 (19%)     max: 26265 Points
min: 15037     avg: 17758     median: 16072 (12%)     max: 22164 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (64bit)
9009 Points (6%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (64bit)
5856 Points (7%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
217.8 s (3%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
6.8 s (1%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 1024m *
398 s (2%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 32m *
11.3 s (6%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
4380 Points (7%)
4213 Points (7%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 36693     avg: 37768     median: 37642.5 (22%)     max: 38873 MIPS
min: 12196     avg: 17704     median: 17318 (10%)     max: 21298 MIPS
min: 10920     avg: 16808     median: 16742 (10%)     max: 21679 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 4334     avg: 4395     median: 4397 (53%)     max: 4471 MIPS
min: 3747     avg: 4591     median: 4678 (56%)     max: 4981 MIPS
min: 3504     avg: 4205     median: 4261 (51%)     max: 4467 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
82.9 fps (29%)
min: 33.41     avg: 42.2     median: 43.9 (15%)     max: 49.35 fps
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
197 fps (45%)
min: 149.1     avg: 167.7     median: 169.5 (39%)     max: 184.5 fps
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 9.27     avg: 9.8     median: 9.8 (17%)     max: 10.4 fps
min: 3.41     avg: 4.6     median: 4.6 (8%)     max: 6.04 fps
min: 2.36     avg: 4.3     median: 4.3 (8%)     max: 6.28 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.8 GB/s (0%)
min: 0.48     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (0%)     max: 0.491 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
1.4 GB/s (24%)
min: 0.79     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (14%)     max: 0.802 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
5 GB/s (13%)
min: 4.6     avg: 4.7     median: 4.7 (12%)     max: 4.7 GB/s
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
631 Seconds (8%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 337.2     avg: 351.9     median: 352 (2%)     max: 369 Seconds
min: 628     avg: 796     median: 797 (6%)     max: 1051 Seconds
min: 585     avg: 859     median: 829 (6%)     max: 1339 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.607     avg: 0.6     median: 0.6 (13%)     max: 0.627 sec
min: 0.637     avg: 0.7     median: 0.7 (14%)     max: 0.81 sec
min: 0.658     avg: 0.7     median: 0.7 (15%)     max: 0.901 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 5989     avg: 8472     median: 6125 (13%)     max: 13303 Points
min: 6167     avg: 6403     median: 6363 (14%)     max: 6680 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
10.5 s (2%)
min: 8.913     avg: 9     median: 9 (2%)     max: 9.008 s
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
24.1 s (1%)
min: 20.35     avg: 20.6     median: 20.6 (1%)     max: 20.86 s
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
607 s (3%)
min: 509     avg: 517     median: 516.5 (2%)     max: 524 s
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
29737 Points (26%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 10904     avg: 11680     median: 11593.5 (31%)     max: 12640 Points
min: 5226     avg: 8090     median: 8048.5 (22%)     max: 11006 Points
min: 3843     avg: 6632     median: 6720 (18%)     max: 9364 Points
min: 40123     avg: 48009     median: 49630 (40%)     max: 54173 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 61439     avg: 63513     median: 63779 (54%)     max: 65322 Points
min: 47281     avg: 55148     median: 56586 (48%)     max: 60555 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 10548     avg: 11100     median: 11085.5 (28%)     max: 11681 Points
min: 4131     avg: 6524     median: 6215 (16%)     max: 9653 Points
min: 4495     avg: 6154     median: 5973.5 (15%)     max: 8574 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 17769     avg: 18050     median: 18021.5 (32%)     max: 18378 Points
min: 5667     avg: 9849     median: 10085 (18%)     max: 13225 Points
min: 381     avg: 8610     median: 8567 (15%)     max: 11875 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 5496     avg: 6170     median: 6251 (26%)     max: 6792 Points
min: 2142     avg: 3135     median: 3088 (13%)     max: 4801 Points
min: 1983     avg: 2749     median: 2734.5 (12%)     max: 3997 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Sling Shot Extreme (ES 3.1) Unlimited Physics
min: 6943     avg: 7132     median: 7131.5 (84%)     max: 7320 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Sling Shot (ES 3.0) Unlimited Physics
6885 Points (79%)
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Single-Core
1525 Points (46%)
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Multi-Core
6631 Points (26%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1099     avg: 1115     median: 1117 (47%)     max: 1124 Points
min: 977     avg: 1197     median: 1212 (51%)     max: 1287 Points
min: 949     avg: 1071     median: 1079 (46%)     max: 1133 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 5260     avg: 6057     median: 6080 (11%)     max: 6574 Points
min: 2474     avg: 3687     median: 3663 (7%)     max: 4484 Points
min: 2079     avg: 3570     median: 3689 (7%)     max: 4256 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
4964 Points (50%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
25247 Points (28%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
4605 Points (63%)
4892 Points (67%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
20939 Points (51%)
15199 Points (37%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
min: 16742     avg: 16790     median: 16790 (30%)     max: 16838 Points
min: 11855     avg: 12114     median: 12114 (21%)     max: 12373 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
min: 4369     avg: 4427     median: 4427 (86%)     max: 4485 Points
min: 3429     avg: 3457     median: 3457 (68%)     max: 3485 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
15805 Points (25%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
4278 Points (64%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 844     avg: 849     median: 848.5 (1%)     max: 855 ms
min: 742     avg: 885     median: 859 (1%)     max: 1184 ms
min: 886     avg: 1014     median: 966 (1%)     max: 1267 ms
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
min: 239.4     avg: 245.5     median: 245.5 (3%)     max: 251.5 ms
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 46066     avg: 47138     median: 47137.5 (42%)     max: 48209 Points
min: 31505     avg: 41519     median: 38295 (34%)     max: 51741 Points
min: 30096     avg: 36050     median: 34153 (31%)     max: 44584 Points
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 198     avg: 206     median: 207 (43%)     max: 212 Points
min: 192     avg: 209.1     median: 210 (44%)     max: 226 Points
min: 169     avg: 190.8     median: 191 (40%)     max: 203 Points
PassMark PerformanceTest Mobile V1 - PerformanceTest Mobile V1 CPU Tests
4130 Points (1%)
PCMark for Android - PCM f. Android Computer Vision
min: 8069     avg: 8091     median: 8090.5 (43%)     max: 8112 Points
PCMark for Android - PCM f. Android Storage
min: 26840     avg: 32009     median: 32009 (68%)     max: 37178 Points
PCMark for Android - PCM f. Android Work Score 2.0
min: 12155     avg: 12335     median: 12334.5 (81%)     max: 12514 Points
PCMark for Android - PCM f. Android Work Score
min: 17751     avg: 18155     median: 18155 (91%)     max: 18559 Points
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
1061 Points (41%)
1101 Points (42%)
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
66.4 Watt (11%)
min: 23     avg: 37.8     median: 38 (7%)     max: 50 Watt
min: 17.1     avg: 30.6     median: 27.9 (5%)     max: 58.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
66.4 Watt (12%)
min: 25.5     avg: 41.2     median: 38.4 (7%)     max: 61 Watt
min: 17.7     avg: 27.3     median: 28.1 (5%)     max: 37.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
21.1 Points per Watt (16%)
min: 8.95     avg: 16.7     median: 17 (13%)     max: 22.4 Points per Watt
min: 15.8     avg: 20.8     median: 17.3 (13%)     max: 35.8 Points per Watt

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 4600H → 100% n=27

Average Benchmarks Intel Core i7-10510U → 79% n=27

Average Benchmarks Intel Core i5-10210U → 73% n=27

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