Intel Core i5-8265U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U vs AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

Intel Core i5-8265U

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The Intel Core i5-8265U is a power efficient quad-core SoC for notebooks and Ultrabooks based on the Whiskey Lake generation and will probably be announced in August 2018. Compared to the similar named Kaby Lake-R processors (e.g. Core i5-8250U), the Whiskey Lake CPUs are now produced in a further improved 14nm process (14nm++) and offer higher clock speeds. The architecture and features are the same. The i5-8265U offers e.g. high Turbo clock speeds of 3,9 GHz (versus 3,4 GHz of the i5-8250U) for a single core (3.8 for two cores, 3.7 GHz for all four cores). The integrated GPU is still named Intel UHD Graphics 620 and the dual-channel memory controller still supports the same RAM speeds as Kaby-Lake-R (DDR4-2400 / LPDDR3-2133). Thermal Velocity Boost is not supported (only in the Core i7-8565U).

The Whiskey Lake SoCs are used with a new PCH produced in 14nm that supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) and CNVi WiFi/BT parts.

Architecture

Intel basically uses the same micro architecture compared to Skylake and Kaby Lake, so the per-MHz performance does not differ. That means Whiskey Lake is a Kaby Lake chip manufactured in the improved 14nm++ process.

Performance

The performance of the i5-8265U depends on the cooling solution of the laptop and the defined TDP limits for short and long term performance. We already saw big differences for Kaby Lake-R (e.g., i7-8550U benchmarks), especially for long term (sustained) performance. Therefore, it will be interesting to see how the additionalTurbo  clock speed can be made use of. For the Core i7, Intel estimates between 3-11% higher performance to the Kaby-Lake-R generation and that should be similar in the Core i5 (as long as the cooling is sufficient).

Graphics

The integrated Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Intel Gen 9.5) is untouched from the 8th Gen Kaby Lake chips. With fast dual-channel memory it can reach the performance of a dedicated GeForce 920M.

Contrary to Skylake, Kaby Lake and Whiskey Lake now also supports H.265/HEVC Main 10 with a 10-bit color depth as well as Google's VP9 codec. The dual-core Kaby Lake processors announced in January should also support HDCP 2.2.

Power Consumption

The chip is manufactured in a further improved 14nm process with FinFET transistors (14nm++), the same as the 8th Gen Coffee Lake processors. Intel still specifies the TDP with 15 Watts, which is typical for ULV chips. Depending on the usage scenario, the TDP can vary between 7.5 (cTDP Down) and 25 Watts.

Warning: Above information is partly still based on rumors and leaks and may therefore change till release.

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U is a mobile SoC for business laptops that was announced in April  2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 5 3500U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

Intel Core i5-8265UAMD Ryzen 5 3500UAMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U
Intel Core i5AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Whiskey Lake-UZen+Zen+
: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
Intel Core i5-8365U1600 - 4100 MHz4 / 86 MB
» Intel Core i5-8265U1600 - 3900 MHz4 / 86 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
1600 - 3900 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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BGA1528AM4AM4
Dual-Channel DDR4 Memory Controller, HyperThreading, AVX, AVX2, Quick Sync, Virtualization, AES-NIXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUIntel UHD Graphics 620 (300 - 1100 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)
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AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) PRO 3500U

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
min: 325     avg: 390     median: 399 (78%)     max: 403 Points
min: 349     avg: 362     median: 362.5 (71%)     max: 372 Points
369 Points (72%)
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
min: 1103     avg: 1338     median: 1367 (15%)     max: 1564 Points
min: 1294     avg: 1432     median: 1463.5 (16%)     max: 1493 Points
1349 Points (15%)
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
min: 457     avg: 594     median: 601.5 (14%)     max: 750 Points
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min: 604     avg: 641     median: 646 (15%)     max: 665 Points
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611 Points (14%)
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
min: 111     avg: 155     median: 158 (72%)     max: 164 Points
min: 137     avg: 142     median: 143 (66%)     max: 147 Points
144 Points (66%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Multi 64Bit
min: 5.22     avg: 6     median: 5.7 (15%)     max: 7.22 Points
7.6 Points (20%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Single 64Bit
min: 1.73     avg: 1.8     median: 1.8 (72%)     max: 1.88 Points
1.7 Points (67%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
min: 5841     avg: 6044     median: 6082 (62%)     max: 6209 Points
min: 4542     avg: 4556     median: 4560 (47%)     max: 4565 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
min: 16318     avg: 18952     median: 19418 (33%)     max: 22962 Points
min: 16980     avg: 17346     median: 17481 (29%)     max: 17578 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit
min: 18924     avg: 21959     median: 21775.5 (29%)     max: 25361 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single CPUs 64Bit
min: 7705     avg: 7880     median: 7919 (74%)     max: 7975 Points
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
min: 371.408     avg: 402     median: 402.4 (5%)     max: 433.343 seconds
368 seconds (4%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
min: 9.635     avg: 11     median: 11 (2%)     max: 12.41 seconds
12.9 seconds (3%)
WinRAR - Result
min: 3215     avg: 4040     median: 3988 (47%)     max: 4916 KB/s
2455 KB/s (29%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
min: 14779     avg: 16847     median: 17229.5 (19%)     max: 18802 MIPS
min: 16902     avg: 16977     median: 16977 (18%)     max: 17052 MIPS
16531 MIPS (18%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
min: 3780     avg: 4073     median: 4156.5 (27%)     max: 4195 MIPS
min: 3530     avg: 3555     median: 3555 (23%)     max: 3580 MIPS
3516 MIPS (23%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
min: 31.9     avg: 37.2     median: 39.1 (25%)     max: 40.5 fps
39.2 fps (25%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
min: 150.5     avg: 159     median: 156 (55%)     max: 169.47 fps
135 fps (48%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
min: 3.9     avg: 4.4     median: 4.4 (16%)     max: 4.8 fps
min: 3.9     avg: 4     median: 4 (14%)     max: 4 fps
3.6 fps (13%)
TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
min: 0.427     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (24%)     max: 0.464 GB/s
0.4 GB/s (23%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
min: 0.708     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (0%)     max: 0.789 GB/s
0.7 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
min: 4.1     avg: 4.3     median: 4.4 (23%)     max: 4.5 GB/s
4.4 GB/s (23%)
Blender 2.79 *
min: 769     avg: 845     median: 825.6 (9%)     max: 959 Seconds
min: 682     avg: 689     median: 689 (7%)     max: 696 Seconds
786 Seconds (8%)
3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 5637     avg: 6330     median: 6316 (42%)     max: 7439 Points
min: 5044     avg: 5951     median: 5950.5 (40%)     max: 6857 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 9.762     avg: 10     median: 9.8 (2%)     max: 10.321 Seconds
12 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
min: 22.117     avg: 22.2     median: 22.2 (1%)     max: 22.432 Seconds
27.8 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 542.501     avg: 562     median: 552.1 (2%)     max: 590.085 Seconds
697 Seconds (3%)
3DMark Vantage - P CPU no PhysX 1280x1024
18229 Points (25%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
min: 4154     avg: 6366     median: 6279 (31%)     max: 8443 points
min: 5213     avg: 5916     median: 5743 (28%)     max: 6542 points
6412 points (31%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 21036     avg: 38610     median: 36622 (24%)     max: 50513 Points
min: 29562     avg: 34747     median: 30215 (19%)     max: 48997 Points
43514 Points (28%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
min: 21037     avg: 37535     median: 36912 (44%)     max: 48588 Points
min: 30656     avg: 35865     median: 31869 (38%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
min: 23095     avg: 49269     median: 52630 (61%)     max: 56737 Points
min: 26201     avg: 37836     median: 35073.5 (41%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 3393     avg: 5785     median: 5607 (14%)     max: 8298 Points
min: 5217     avg: 6162     median: 6335 (16%)     max: 7132 Points
6090 Points (15%)
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
min: 4640     avg: 7947     median: 8001 (27%)     max: 11278 Points
min: 7496     avg: 8797     median: 8800.5 (30%)     max: 9982 Points
9070 Points (31%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Stream
min: 10592     avg: 10596     median: 10595.5 (85%)     max: 10599 Points
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Memory
min: 8582     avg: 8660     median: 8660 (79%)     max: 8738 Points
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Floating Point
min: 11914     avg: 12181     median: 12181 (24%)     max: 12448 Points
16467 Points (32%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Integer
min: 12671     avg: 13099     median: 13099 (26%)     max: 13527 Points
12317 Points (25%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Total Score
min: 11598     avg: 11639     median: 11639 (30%)     max: 11680 Points
11917 Points (31%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 12198     avg: 13659     median: 14002 (25%)     max: 14499 Points
min: 12999     avg: 13075     median: 13081 (23%)     max: 13145 Points
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3470     avg: 3669     median: 3678.5 (76%)     max: 3842 Points
min: 3258     avg: 3404     median: 3477 (72%)     max: 3478 Points
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 12221     avg: 13021     median: 13021 (20%)     max: 13821 Points
13873 Points (22%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3805     avg: 3906     median: 3906 (79%)     max: 4007 Points
3682 Points (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Compute OpenCL Score
min: 33778     avg: 39251     median: 37904 (13%)     max: 46070 Points
27192 Points (9%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 13168     avg: 13975     median: 14368 (40%)     max: 14390 Points
10597 Points (29%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 4229     avg: 4422     median: 4433 (70%)     max: 4605 Points
3669 Points (58%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 2106     avg: 4357     median: 4481 (71%)     max: 4830 Points
min: 3400     avg: 3733     median: 3797 (60%)     max: 3921 Points
3820 Points (60%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 7144     avg: 13553     median: 13582.5 (24%)     max: 16249 Points
min: 10099     avg: 10960     median: 10856.5 (19%)     max: 11837 Points
10419 Points (18%)
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 986     avg: 1005     median: 1003 (75%)     max: 1027 Points
min: 886     avg: 887     median: 887 (66%)     max: 888 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 2973     avg: 3328     median: 3129 (19%)     max: 3881 Points
min: 3067     avg: 3072     median: 3071.5 (19%)     max: 3076 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
min: 850.5     avg: 1165     median: 1197.8 (2%)     max: 1245 ms
min: 1237.4     avg: 1353     median: 1296.4 (2%)     max: 1692.7 ms
1325 ms (2%)
Sunspider - 1.0 Total Score *
min: 83     avg: 93.5     median: 95.6 (1%)     max: 99.8 ms
129 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
min: 12842     avg: 31256     median: 32225 (61%)     max: 35563 Points
min: 19083     avg: 26192     median: 27883 (53%)     max: 29237 Points
27689 Points (53%)

Average Benchmarks Intel Core i5-8265U → 100%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3500U → 93%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U → 96%

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)