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Radeon Adrenalin 2020 drivers now support Intel Kaby Lake-G.

After a year long wait, Kaby Lake-G finally gets a driver update... from AMD

After being left in the lurch for nearly 12 months, owners of the ill-fated Intel Kaby Lake-G platform finally get some respite not from Intel but from AMD. AMD Radeon Software Adrenalin 2020 drivers can now be used to update Kaby...
Vaidyanathan Subramaniam, Tue, 31 Mar 2020 10:37:00 +0200
The Acer Chromebook 715 is a premium, but expensive, Chromebook. (Image via Acer)

Acer Chromebook 715: Chrome OS comes of age

The Acer Chromebook 715 is a well-crafted Chromebook that offers one of the best Chrome OS experiences on the market. In addition to an excellent case, the Chromebook also flaunts the new features of Chrome OS. Linux and Android i...
Sam Medley, Sun, 29 Mar 2020 00:05:00 +0100
Acer Chromebook 715 Laptop Review

83% Acer Chromebook 715 Laptop Review

Chrome for Work. The Acer Chromebook 715 is perhaps the current pinnacle of Chromebooks. With a sleek and sturdy build, excellent keyboard, and powerful hardware, it is easily one of the best Chromebooks on the market. Additionally, Android app integration and a built-in Linux virtual machine (still in beta) finally make Chrome OS feel like a fully-fledged (though piecemeal) operating system.
Intel Core i5-8350U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 15.6" | 2 kg
Sam Medley, Thu, 26 Mar 2020 07:53:00 +0100
Last year's flagship Lenovo Yoga C930 convertible with Core i7 CPU, 12 GB RAM, and 256 GB SSD is now just $900 USD (Image source: eBay)

Deal | Last year's Lenovo Yoga C930 convertible flagship with Core i7 CPU, 12 GB RAM, and 256 GB SSD is now just $900 USD

It looks like Lenovo is clearing stock of its last generation Yoga C930 2-in-1. If you have no use for the improved GPU potential of the Intel 10th gen Ice Lake series, then the 8th gen Kaby Lake-R series will be just fine.
Allen Ngo, Wed, 11 Mar 2020 23:44:00 +0100
Yet another Intel chip-level security flaw uncovered. (Source: Intel)

New and unfixable Intel chip flaw discovered putting PCs at risk of attack

Intel has had a rough trot with chip-level security flaws in the past couple of years and it seemed as though it had gotten on top of them. Unfortunately, security researchers have discovered a new chip-level vulnerability affecti...
Sanjiv Sathiah, Sat, 07 Mar 2020 11:31:00 +0100
The Eve V is going on sale for the last time. (Source: Eve Devices)

Eve V: a final sale event has been announced for this "Surface alternative"

Eve will launch its "last chance" to buy its first crowd-designed tablet, the V, soon. The company will sell the core i7, 16GB RAM variant of this product at less than US$800 on this date. However, the actual delivery of the same ...
Deirdre O Donnell, Sat, 22 Feb 2020 17:31:00 +0100
The Acer ConceptD 5 CN515-51 misses a clear target market

The Acer ConceptD 5 CN515-51 misses a clear target market thanks to cost-cutting

In our review, the Acer ConceptD 5 shows some interesting qualities. But at important points, Acer ruins things with cost cuts. The Acer laptop just does not ma...
Intel Core i7-8705G | AMD Radeon RX Vega M GL / 870 | 15.6" | 1.5 kg
Benjamin Herzig, Fri, 21 Feb 2020 16:00:00 +0100
Acer ConceptD 5 CN515-51 laptop review: Kaby Lake G lightweight struggles with cost cutting

83% Acer ConceptD 5 CN515-51 laptop review: Kaby Lake G lightweight struggles with cost cutting

White featherweight. Acer leaves known paths with its ConceptD 5 CN515-51 to differentiate itself from the competition, with especially lightweight materials, Kaby Lake G with an integrated AMD GPU and a 4K UHD screen that covers a wider color gamut. At the same time, the Acer ConceptD CN515-51 is also cheaper than other multimedia laptops with a 15.6 inch screen. Unfortunately, the necessary cost cuts are showing up quite fast in this comprehensive review.
Intel Core i7-8705G | AMD Radeon RX Vega M GL / 870 | 15.6" | 1.5 kg
Benjamin Herzig, Wed, 19 Feb 2020 15:51:00 +0100
The MacBook Air appears pretty outdated

The MacBook Air appears pretty outdated

The MacBook Air is a well-known brand, so it makes sense for Apple to offer corresponding devices. However, both the performance and connectivity fall behind the competition, and Apple's own MacBook Pro 13 is a better alternative.
Andreas Osthoff, Mon, 03 Feb 2020 14:49:00 +0100
Lenovo ThinkPad T480s with Core i5, 8 GB RAM, and 256 GB SSD is only $670 right now (Source: Lenovo)

Deal | Lenovo ThinkPad T480s with Core i5, 8 GB RAM, Thunderbolt 3, and 256 GB SSD is only $670 right now

The ThinkPad T480s is the lighter and slimmer version of the standard ThinkPad T480 to strike a better balance between a traditional lightweight Ultrabook and a full-on business laptop. The Core i5-8250U may not be the newest, but...
Allen Ngo, Sun, 02 Feb 2020 19:55:00 +0100
Apple Macbook Air 2019 in Review: Now with True Tone, but the fan is still annoying

85% Apple Macbook Air 2019 in Review: Now with True Tone, but the fan is still annoying

Small Update with True Tone Display The 2019 MacBook Air is just a minor update. Apple's smallest laptop now supports True Tone for the screen, so the color temperature is automatically adjusted to the environment. Otherwise, there is not much change, and we still get the annoying fan. At least the price is a bit lower.
Intel Core i5-8210Y | Intel UHD Graphics 617 | 13.3" | 1.3 kg
Andreas Osthoff, Fri, 31 Jan 2020 14:14:00 +0100
Three generations of 14 nm: Core i7-10510U offers just 20 percent faster multi-thread performance than the average Core i7-8550U

Three generations of 14 nm: Core i7-10510U offers just 20 percent faster multi-thread performance than the average Core i7-8550U

If you're in the market for a new laptop, you won't be missing all that much by going with an older Whiskey Lake-U model. The hexa-core Core i7-10710U looks to be the only Comet Lake-U SKU to offer a significant gen-to-gen raw per...
Allen Ngo, Fri, 17 Jan 2020 10:00:00 +0100
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2019 Privacy Guard Review: Business laptop with ePrivacy filter is not perfect

90% Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2019 Privacy Guard Review: Business laptop with ePrivacy filter is not perfect

The first attempt. Lenovo now offers some of its ThinkPad models with the optional Privacy Guard display. We checked the ePrivacy screen in combination with the current ThinkPad X1 Carbon 2019 and also compare Lenovo's first attempt with HP's SureView technology.
Intel Core i5-8265U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 14" | 1.2 kg
Andreas Osthoff, Wed, 25 Dec 2019 10:12:00 +0100
Could AMD be preparing Ryzen 7 and Ryzen 9 APUs? (Image via AMD)

AMD may soon release Ryzen 9 4900H and Ryzen 7 4800H APUs with 8 cores

Intel may find AMD's mobile offerings problematic in the coming year. Chinese forum users have stated that the Taiwanese chip manufacturer will soon debut the Ryzen 9 4900H and Ryzen 7 4800H, both of which are eight-core, 16-threa...
Sam Medley, Mon, 23 Dec 2019 00:25:00 +0100
The Surface Pro 7 (Source: Own)

Feature | Should tablets have fans? - Analyzing tablet PC performance

Should your next "laptop" be a tablet? These small, very portable machines have been only getting better in recent times. Are they fast enough to replace laptops, or are they still behind the curve?
Loki Rautio, Tue, 10 Dec 2019 21:41:00 +0100
Dynabook Portégé A30-E in review: Great display, unstable case

A lot of light but also shadow: The Dynabook Portégé A30-E

Dynabook's 13.3-inch business laptop pleases with a bright, contrast-rich IPS display, an NVMe SSD and long battery life.
Sascha Mölck, Fri, 08 Nov 2019 18:35:00 +0100
Dynabook Portégé A30-E laptop review: Great display, unstable case

85% Dynabook Portégé A30-E laptop review: Great display, unstable case

Everything new. The Dynabook 13.3-inch business laptop pleases with a bright, contrast-rich IPS display, an NVMe SSD and long battery life. However, the case should be more stable.
Intel Core i7-8550U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 13.3" | 1.2 kg
Sascha Mölck, Wed, 06 Nov 2019 18:32:00 +0100
The T-bao Tbook5 Pro laptop also features a bright blue fingerprint sensor. (Image source: Gearbest)

The T-bao Tbook5 Pro laptop: Too cool for square keys

Chinese manufacturer T-bao has released its Tbook5 Pro laptop that offers users something of an intriguing unique selling point. The device comes with a dedicated graphics card from Nvidia and a CPU from Intel’s Celeron series, bu...
Daniel R Deakin, Sun, 03 Nov 2019 14:03:00 +0100
To all Dell XPS 15 9575 and Kaby Lake-G owners: You're fine, Intel will continue to support the platform for another few years

To all Dell XPS 15 9575 and Kaby Lake-G owners: You're fine, Intel will continue to support the platform for another few years

Intel may be axing its AMD-powered chipset for good, but that doesn't mean it won't be stopping driver support for any existing Kaby Lake-G PCs already in the market. The blue chipmaker plans to support the platform for another fe...
Allen Ngo, Wed, 09 Oct 2019 19:17:00 +0200
The Kaby Lake-G was a good experiment that didn't find many takers. (Source: Intel)

Updated: Intel Kaby Lake-G family goes the way of the dodo

Intel has issued a new Product Change Notification (PCN) document that lists the Kaby Lake-G family as End of Life (EOL) citing market demand for other Intel products. The EOL date is effective from today and OEMs will not be able...
Vaidyanathan Subramaniam, Tue, 08 Oct 2019 16:07:00 +0200
Lenovo ThinkPad L580 Laptop Review: Reliable office notebook with a good keyboard

84% Lenovo ThinkPad L580 Laptop Review: Reliable office notebook with a good keyboard

All you need in the office. Those who are looking for an affordable laptop for the office will invariably encounter Lenovo's L series. We are testing the 15.6-inch L580 that is able to convince particularly with its good input devices.
Intel Core i5-8250U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 15.6" | 2 kg
Andreas Osthoff, Mon, 07 Oct 2019 18:48:57 +0200
Acer Swift 3 SF314-54 Laptop Review: An all-rounder at a great price

82% Acer Swift 3 SF314-54 Laptop Review: An all-rounder at a great price

Long-lasting. Acer's 14-inch model boasts a sleek, slim body, a Kaby Lake processor and good battery life. The rest of the equipment does not disappoint either: NVMe-SSD, matte IPS screen, key illumination. The RAM is a bit meager with 4 GB. The operating system is Windows 10 Home in S mode. The total package costs almost 400 Euros (~$444).
Intel Pentium Gold 4417U | Intel HD Graphics 610 | 14" | 1.6 kg
Sascha Mölck, Wed, 11 Sep 2019 12:45:00 +0200
A Snapdragon 8cx can be found in the Samsung Galaxy Book S. (Image source: Phoneweek)

Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8cx amasses respectable score on Geekbench and closes in on Intel's Core i5-8250U

The Qualcomm Snapdragon 8cx processor has recently been spotted on Geekbench as part of a system recorded as “Qualcomm CLS”. The California-based chip designer had already compared the Snapdragon 8cx’s performance with Intel’s Cor...
Daniel R Deakin, Tue, 03 Sep 2019 18:14:00 +0200
Microsoft's Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 2 devices are suffering from severe CPU throttling. (Source: Microsoft)

Microsoft aware of severe throttling issue affecting Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 2 that leaves devices locked at just 400 MHz

Microsoft’s Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 2 models are suffering from severe throttling problems. The company is said to be aware of the issue and is preparing a firmware update to address the problem.
Sanjiv Sathiah, Fri, 16 Aug 2019 12:42:00 +0200
Lenovo has teased three incoming Intel-based Chromebooks in a new video. (Source: Chromeunboxed)

Trio of new Lenovo Chromebooks incoming with 8th gen silicon onboard

Lenovo has teased a trio of new Chromebooks with 8th gen Intel silicon on board. The new models come in an 11.6-inch convertible, a 14-inch 180-degree and a 15.6-inch convertible with the latter focused on business productivity
Sanjiv Sathiah, Fri, 02 Aug 2019 12:36:00 +0200
The current Xiaomi Mi Gaming notebook. (Source: Xiaomi)

New Xiaomi Mi Gaming notebooks may come with either RTX 2060 or GTX 1660 Ti

Xiaomi is now rumored to have updates for its Mi Gaming notebook line in the works. The 2019 versions of these laptops may be powered by either the RTX 2060 or GTX 1660 Ti. This is not much of a stretch, as last year's models were...
Deirdre O Donnell, Fri, 26 Jul 2019 16:05:00 +0200
Intel's Comet Lake is a successor to Coffee Lake and Whiskey Lake. (Image source: eTeknix)

Mysterious 10510Y processor pops up on 3DMark

There has been mention of a 10510Y processor in a 3DMark record, according to noted database miner Tum Apisak. Although details about the chip are currently scant, the tipster did add that the CPU had been measured running at a cl...
Daniel R Deakin, Tue, 23 Jul 2019 16:55:00 +0200
The new VAIO SX12 is ultralight but doesn't skimp on functionality. (Source: VAIO)

VAIO launches SX12 ultraportable, weighs under two pounds

VAIO has launched its latest ultraportable in its home market of Japan. The new SX12 is one of the lightest 12.5-inch Windows notebooks on the market weighing in at under two pounds, or just 888 grams.
Sanjiv Sathiah, Tue, 09 Jul 2019 12:23:00 +0200
Microsoft is thought to be developing a Snapdragon 8cx-powered WoA Surface Pro 7. (Source: Microsoft)

Microsoft prepping Snapdragon 8cx-powered WoA Surface

Microsoft looks set to bring a WoA Surface to market powered by Qualcomm’s specialized Snapdraon 8cx SoC. The device is said be going by the codename Excalibur internally and could feature on a version of the Surface Pro 7.
Sanjiv Sathiah, Thu, 27 Jun 2019 10:15:00 +0200
Dell Latitude 3590 review: Office laptop with major flaws

80% Dell Latitude 3590 review: Office laptop with major flaws

Not even close, definitely no cigar. Dell has introduced its newest incarnation of their office and business series 3000 to the market, and adds some new issues to the already well-known weak points of this range. Not only is the screen an issue with this latest version, which we would be unhappy with in a 400-Euro (~$456) budget laptop, but also other issues on the technical side. Aside from this, it has very good battery life. UPDATE 08.07.2019: The new BIOS version 1.9.8 changes thermal and fan levels with positive results.
Intel Core i5-8250U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 15.6" | 2.1 kg
Sven Kloevekorn, Fri, 21 Jun 2019 08:29:20 +0200
Apparently, the 10th generation Core i series will include a mix of architectures. (Image source: Intel)

Intel Core i7-10510U and Core i5-10210U disappoint on Geekbench with lower scores than the Ryzen 7 3700U and Ryzen 5 3500U

Listings for the Core i7-10510U and Core i5-10210U have appeared on Geekbench, although their scores should be no cause of worry for AMD. The chips are outgunned by not only the Ryzen 7 3700U and Ryzen 5 3500U but also the current...
Alex Alderson, Wed, 19 Jun 2019 12:11:00 +0200
Sunny Cove is based on a 10nm manufacturing process. (Image source: PCGamer)

Alleged CPU-Z single-core benchmark scores place Intel Sunny Cove CPUs above more-powerful AMD Matisse processors

An image showing supposedly leaked CPU-Z single-core benchmark scores has been shared online that shows Intel’s Sunny Cove core microarchitecture in a very good light. The processors involved in the purported test also include thr...
Daniel R Deakin, Tue, 18 Jun 2019 00:54:00 +0200
Dell Latitude 3390 (Core i5-8250U, Full HD, 256 GB SSD) Convertible Review

83% Dell Latitude 3390 (Core i5-8250U, Full HD, 256 GB SSD) Convertible Review

Solid convertible! The Dell Latitude 3390 is a compact 13.3-inch convertible laptop that offers decent performance but poor battery life. Read on to find out how the Latitude 3390 shapes up elsewhere in this detailed review.
Intel Core i5-8250U | Intel UHD Graphics 620 | 13.3" | 1.6 kg
Sebastian Bade, Wed, 12 Jun 2019 22:43:30 +0200
Samsung's Notebook 7 models look quite similar to Apple's MacBook Pro laptops. (Source: Samsung)

Samsung unveils new Notebook 7 / Force laptops

The latest Notebook 7 slim laptops from Samsung should go head to head with Huawei's MateBook models as value-oriented alternatives for Apple's MacBook Pro and Microsoft's Surface. The Notebook 7 lineup features configurations wit...
Bogdan Solca, Mon, 03 Jun 2019 15:17:00 +0200
The Asus Prime X299 Edition 30 motherboard comes with two LiveDash OLED displays. (Image source: Asus)

Computex 2019 | Asus commemorates 30 years in business with the awesome Prime X299 Edition 30 motherboard

Asus has revealed a new motherboard as part of its celebrations of enjoying 30 years in business. The Prime X299 Edition 30 supports the LGA 2066 socket that is compatible with Skylake-X, Kaby Lake-X, and Skylake-W processors from...
Daniel R Deakin, Mon, 27 May 2019 14:00:00 +0200
It seems the entry-level AMD Ryzen 3 3300 processor has amazing performance for a low cost. (Image source: ExtremeTech)

Entry-level AMD Ryzen 3000 Matisse processor's scores on Geekbench will make Intel nervous

A member of the upcoming Matisse family of Ryzen 3000 processors from AMD has been spotted on Geekbench, and the seemingly entry-level sample has delivered scores that will have Intel concerned. The apparent price-performance rati...
Daniel R Deakin, Sun, 26 May 2019 10:57:00 +0200
Acer Swift 3 with Core i7-8550U CPU, 256 GB SSD, and narrow bezels is only $550 right now (Image source: Newegg)

Deal | Acer Swift 3 with Core i7-8550U CPU, 256 GB SSD, and narrow bezels is only $550 right now

Acer's newest entry-level 15.6-inch laptop has almost all the modern features of a pricey flagship including USB Type-C, narrow bezels, SD card reader, 1080p display, and an integrated fingerprint reader all for hundreds of dollar...
Allen Ngo, Sat, 18 May 2019 20:04:00 +0200
The Microsoft Surface Pro 6 has a sturdy design. (Image source: Microsoft)

Microsoft to offer new i5-powered Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 2 models with more RAM

A large electronics retailer has apparently accidentally revealed two new SKUs for Microsoft’s popular Surface range. The models involved are variants of the Surface Pro 6 and Surface Book 2. It appears the Redmond-based tech gian...
Daniel R Deakin, Sat, 18 May 2019 11:42:00 +0200
Comet Lake-U is based on a 14nm manufacturing process. (Image source: Professional Review)

Intel's Comet Lake-U i5-10210U SoC underwhelms on both Geekbench and GFXBench

Intel’s Comet Lake-U processor i5-10210U has been spotted on Geekbench and GFXBench. The results that have been recorded on both benchmarks aren’t going to win any performance awards; however, the chip has a very low TDP and a pre...
Daniel R Deakin, Thu, 16 May 2019 09:15:00 +0200
New ZombieLoad attack can exploit all Intel chips dating back to 2011

New ZombieLoad attack can exploit all Intel chips dating back to 2011

A flaw in Intel's modern CPU architectures can be used in a new attack. Dubbed "ZombieLoad," the vulnerability is similar to the Spectre and Meltdown bugs that haunted the PC market last year. ZombieLoad uses a similar flaw in Int...
Sam Medley, Tue, 14 May 2019 23:44:00 +0200
The Huawei Matebook X Pro comes in a new Pink Gold color. (Huawei)

Huawei's Matebook X Pro now comes in a rose gold variant

Huawei’s Matebook X Pro is finally available in a new rose gold color. The latest iteration of the highly-regarded ultrabook is retailing in China from US$1,320.
Sanjiv Sathiah, Sat, 11 May 2019 11:51:00 +0200
Intel's long overdue 10nm Ice Lake chips will be shipping in volume from June. (Source: Intel)

Intel Ice Lake 10nm chips ramping from June, 7nm coming 2021

It looks like Intel’s 10nm fabrication woes might finally be over. Speaking at its 2019 Investor Meeting, Intel chief engineering officer and group president of Technology, Systems Architecture and Client Group, Dr Murthy Renduchi...
Sanjiv Sathiah, Thu, 09 May 2019 11:36:00 +0200
The Dell XPS 15 2-in-1 (2018) currently has a high starting price of US$1,299.99. (Image source: Dell)

Dell has no plans to release a new XPS 15 convertible in 2019

There won’t be a successor to the Dell XPS 15 9575 released in 2019. The popular 2-in-1 convertible laptop was released in the first half of 2018 and there seems to be plenty of people who are expecting the American manufacturer t...
Daniel R Deakin, Wed, 08 May 2019 08:49:00 +0200
Logo via IBM.

THINK: A brief history of ThinkPads, from IBM to Lenovo

The ThinkPad line is one of the most renowned device families in the laptop world. Ever since its inception under IBM in 1992, the ThinkPad brand has seen its fair share of successes and failures. In this overview, we will take a brief look at the history of the storied brand.
Sam Medley, Thu, 02 May 2019 23:00:41 +0200
Intel's earnings for Q1FY2019 are relatively unprepossessing. (Source: The Verge)

Intel reports first-quarter earnings for 2019

Intel has made its earnings report for the first quarter of this financial year (Q1FY2019) available to the public. In it, overall revenue is described as "flat" compared to Q1FY2018. Its "data" business has declined by 5% in the ...
Deirdre O Donnell, Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:14:00 +0200
An alleged new Intel roadmap pushes the availability of 10nm back even further. (Source: NBC)

Alleged Intel release roadmap shows no 10nm until 2021

The latest reports on the subject of new Intel platforms suggest that the first 10-nanometer (nm) chipsets will be here later in 2019. However, according to a new image characterized as the company's latest release schedule, this ...
Deirdre O Donnell, Wed, 24 Apr 2019 19:09:00 +0200
The Dell XPS 15 9560 performed at a high level in our tests. (Source: Dell)

Deal | Save nearly US$1,000 with very limited offer on refurbished Dell XPS 15 9560 with i7-7700HQ CPU and 1 TB SSD

Dell has a very limited sale on at the moment for certified refurbished Dell XPS 15 9560 laptops. One particular SKU comes with an Intel Core i7 processor from the Kaby Lake series, a discrete GPU in the shape of an Nvidia GeForce...
Daniel R Deakin, Mon, 22 Apr 2019 10:22:00 +0200
A history of Dell XPS laptops from 2007 to present

A history of Dell XPS laptops from 2007 to present

Xtreme Performance, Revisited. The Dell XPS series has been an excellent proposition for those desiring powerful computing on the go. The evolution of the XPS line is quite a journey, but all along it always underscored the need for keeping pace with the ever evolving technology landscape and computing needs of users, making the XPS lineup one of the most sought after Windows laptops. In this article, we will have a bird's eye view of how the XPS lineup evolved from the humble XPS 466V desktop in 1993 to the high-performant XPS 13 and XPS 15 ultrabooks of today.
Vaidyanathan Subramaniam, Sun, 14 Apr 2019 08:23:38 +0200
Save over US$500 on the Lenovo ThinkPad T480 laptop. (Source: Lenovo)

Deal | Lenovo's Tax Time Sale: Save hundreds of dollars on the ThinkPad T480, IdeaPad 330S, and Miix 630

Lenovo is holding a Tax Time Sale this weekend for those hunting for a great deal on a laptop or convertible. The Chinese manufacturer has laptops from its flagship lines on offer, and there are savings to be had on a variety of t...
Daniel R Deakin, Sat, 13 Apr 2019 08:58:00 +0200
AMD has enjoyed a popularity increase in March's Steam survey. (Source: MakeUseOf)

AMD manages to take a nibble out of Intel's share in Steam processor survey

AMD has taken a bite out of Intel’s overall share in Steam’s monthly survey in the PC processor usage category. The red team was up to 18.1% for March, rising 0.5% from 17.6% for February. AMD took share away from Intel for system...
Daniel R Deakin, Tue, 09 Apr 2019 10:58:00 +0200

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