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Thin is in: MSI GF75 Thin 9SC Laptop Review

$1200 for a GeForce GTX 1650.

While the GTX 1650 is an excellent upgrade over the GTX 1050 or GTX 1050 Ti, we can't say the same about the Core i7-9750H over the Core i7-8750H. Be prepared to spend $1200 for a budget gaming laptop with the performance level of an older GTX 1060.

The MSI GF series is the company's budget lineup of gaming laptops similar to the GL series and GP series. The GF75 directly succeeds the last generation GF72 with a new narrow-bezel chassis design for a noticeably smaller, lighter, and more compact gaming experience.

We already checked out the GF75 8RD earlier this year equipped with an Intel 8th gen Core i7-8750H CPU and Nvidia Pascal GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q GPU. Our unit today is the newer GF75 9SC equipped with an Intel 9th gen Core i7-9750H CPU and the Nvidia Turing GeForce GTX 1650 GPU. While the core specifications have improved, the chassis and motherboard remain identical to the GF75 8RD. We therefore recommend checking out our review on the GF75 8RD since our existing comments on the chassis, connectivity options, keyboard, speakers, and other physical features all apply here for the GF75 9SC.

Our MSI GF75 9SC as configured can be found on CUKUSA.com for a retail price of $1200 to $1400 USD. Direct competitors include other budget 17.3-inch gaming laptops such as the Asus TUF FX705, Asus Strix G GL731, Lenovo Legion Y540, Gigabyte Aorus 7, Acer Aspire V17, or the Dell G7 series.

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MSI GF75 Thin 9SC (GF75 Series)
Processor
Intel Core i7-9750H 6 x 2.6 - 4.5 GHz, Coffee Lake-H
Graphics adapter
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile - 4 GB VRAM, Core: 1395 MHz, RAM: 2001 MHz, GDDR5, 431.36, Optimus
Memory
32 GB 
, DDR4-2666, PC4-21300, 18-18-18-39, Dual-Channel
Display
17.30 inch 16:9, 1920 x 1080 pixel 127 PPI, AU Optronics B173HAN04.2, IPS, glossy: no
Mainboard
Intel Cannon Lake HM370
Storage
Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8, 1024 GB 
, Secondary: 2 TB Seagate ST2000LM007-1R8174
Soundcard
Intel Cannon Lake-H/S - cAVS (Audio, Voice, Speech)
Connections
4 USB 3.0 / 3.1 Gen1, 1 HDMI, 1 Kensington Lock, Audio Connections: 3.5 mm combo
Networking
Realtek RTL8168/8111 Gigabit-LAN (10/100/1000MBit/s), Intel Wireless-AC 9560 (a/b/g/n = Wi-Fi 4/ac = Wi-Fi 5/), Bluetooth 5.0
Size
height x width x depth (in mm): 23.1 x 397 x 260 ( = 0.91 x 15.63 x 10.24 in)
Battery
51 Wh Lithium-Polymer
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Camera
Webcam: HD type (30fps@720p)
Additional features
Speakers: 2 Watt stereo, Keyboard: Chiclet, Keyboard Light: yes, Dragon Center 2.5, McAfee Anti-Virus, 12 Months Warranty
Weight
2.25 kg ( = 79.37 oz / 4.96 pounds), Power Supply: 656 g ( = 23.14 oz / 1.45 pounds)
Price
1200 USD
Note: The manufacturer may use components from different suppliers including display panels, drives or memory sticks with similar specifications.

 

Case

(Image source: CUKUSA.com)
(Image source: CUKUSA.com)

423 mm / 16.7 in 304 mm / 12 in 33 mm / 1.299 in 3.7 kg8.06 lbs419 mm / 16.5 in 287 mm / 11.3 in 32 mm / 1.26 in 2.7 kg5.95 lbs412.6 mm / 16.2 in 304.9 mm / 12 in 23 mm / 0.906 in 2.8 kg6.17 lbs399.8 mm / 15.7 in 279.4 mm / 11 in 26.6 mm / 1.047 in 2.7 kg5.95 lbs397 mm / 15.6 in 269 mm / 10.6 in 29 mm / 1.142 in 2.6 kg5.66 lbs397 mm / 15.6 in 260 mm / 10.2 in 23.1 mm / 0.909 in 2.3 kg4.96 lbs297 mm / 11.7 in 210 mm / 8.27 in 1 mm / 0.03937 in 5.7 g0.01257 lbs

Communication

Removable M.2 WLAN module
Removable M.2 WLAN module
Networking
iperf3 transmit AX12
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
676 MBit/s +3%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
658 MBit/s
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Atheros/Qualcomm QCA6174
555 MBit/s -16%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
Realtek 8821CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
201 (89min - 272max) MBit/s -69%
iperf3 receive AX12
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
690 MBit/s +6%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Atheros/Qualcomm QCA6174
649 MBit/s 0%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Wireless-AC 9560
649 MBit/s
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
Realtek 8821CE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
215 (199min - 221max) MBit/s -67%

Maintenance

Servicing requires breaking a sticker
Servicing requires breaking a sticker

Warranty

The standard one-year limited warranty applies. CUKUSA offers three-year warranty as standard on any configurable components installed by the reseller including RAM and storage. MSI may offer additional benefits for owners who register their purchases with the manufacturer online.

Display

The GF75 9SC utilizes the same AU Optronics B173HAN04.2 IPS panel as on the older GF75 8RD and so our existing comments still apply here. Attributes like the respectable contrast ratio, brightness, and gamut remain almost identical between the two generations. The most noticeable drawback of the display is its relatively slow black-white and gray-gray response times compared to the latest 1080p panels with 8 ms or faster response times. We would have liked to see MSI push higher-tier 120 Hz or 144 Hz panels as standard for the budget category.

Matte display with no edge-to-edge glass options
Matte display with no edge-to-edge glass options
Very narrow bezels for a budget gaming laptop
Very narrow bezels for a budget gaming laptop
Only minor uneven backlight bleeding
Only minor uneven backlight bleeding
Subpixel array
Subpixel array
338.5
cd/m²
350.9
cd/m²
326.9
cd/m²
321.6
cd/m²
344.7
cd/m²
327
cd/m²
327.1
cd/m²
334.4
cd/m²
319.2
cd/m²
Distribution of brightness
AU Optronics B173HAN04.2 tested with X-Rite i1Pro 2
Maximum: 350.9 cd/m² (Nits) Average: 332.3 cd/m² Minimum: 6.21 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 91 %
Center on Battery: 344.7 cd/m²
Contrast: 1149:1 (Black: 0.3 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 3.08 | 0.5-29.43 Ø4.91, calibrated: 2.94
ΔE Greyscale 3.8 | 0.5-98 Ø5.2
89.6% sRGB (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
58% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 1.6.3 3D)
64% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
90% sRGB (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
62.5% Display P3 (Argyll 2.2.0 3D)
Gamma: 2.17
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
AU Optronics B173HAN04.2, IPS, 17.3", 1920x1080
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Chi Mei CMN1747, TN LED, 17.3", 1920x1080
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
AU Optronics B173HAN04.2, IPS, 17.3", 1920x1080
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
Chi Mei N173HCE-G33 (CMN175C), IPS, 17.3", 1920x1080
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
AU Optronics B173HAN03.2, IPS, 17.3", 1920x1080
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
AU Optronics AUO309D, IPS, 17.3", 1920x1080
Display
30%
-0%
3%
1%
3%
Display P3 Coverage
62.5
90.8
45%
62.3
0%
63.4
1%
64
2%
65.4
5%
sRGB Coverage
90
99.8
11%
89.1
-1%
94.9
5%
90.4
0%
90
0%
AdobeRGB 1998 Coverage
64
85.6
34%
63.7
0%
65.1
2%
64.8
1%
65.8
3%
Response Times
44%
-10%
74%
56%
58%
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% *
34 ?(17.6, 16.4)
24.4 ?(15.2, 9.2)
28%
41 ?(20, 21)
-21%
8 ?(4, 4)
76%
15.6 ?(8, 7.6)
54%
17.6 ?(10, 7.6)
48%
Response Time Black / White *
30.4 ?(18, 12.4)
12.6 ?(11.2, 1.4)
59%
30 ?(16, 14)
1%
8.8 ?(4.4, 4.4)
71%
12.8 ?(7.6, 5.2)
58%
10 ?(4.8, 5.2)
67%
PWM Frequency
25000 ?(20)
25510 ?(17)
Screen
-37%
-1%
10%
-24%
-5%
Brightness middle
344.7
329.2
-4%
316
-8%
420
22%
299.1
-13%
343.6
0%
Brightness
332
318
-4%
294
-11%
393
18%
273
-18%
320
-4%
Brightness Distribution
91
92
1%
84
-8%
91
0%
81
-11%
87
-4%
Black Level *
0.3
0.4
-33%
0.32
-7%
0.32
-7%
0.27
10%
0.34
-13%
Contrast
1149
823
-28%
988
-14%
1313
14%
1108
-4%
1011
-12%
Colorchecker dE 2000 *
3.08
6.4
-108%
3.39
-10%
3.04
1%
5.07
-65%
3.74
-21%
Colorchecker dE 2000 max. *
6.32
11.7
-85%
5.56
12%
7.22
-14%
10.55
-67%
5.33
16%
Colorchecker dE 2000 calibrated *
2.94
2.14
27%
0.89
70%
3.31
-13%
3.49
-19%
Greyscale dE 2000 *
3.8
9.2
-142%
3.17
17%
3.91
-3%
6.8
-79%
3.7
3%
Gamma
2.17 101%
2.18 101%
2.39 92%
2.26 97%
2.46 89%
2.36 93%
CCT
7284 89%
10484 62%
7098 92%
7138 91%
7805 83%
6388 102%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)
58
76
31%
51
-12%
60
3%
58.5
1%
58
0%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)
89.6
92
3%
89
-1%
95
6%
89.9
0%
90
0%
Total Average (Program / Settings)
12% / -13%
-4% / -2%
29% / 17%
11% / -9%
19% / 4%

* ... smaller is better

 

vs. sRGB
vs. sRGB
vs. AdobeRGB
vs. AdobeRGB
Grayscale before calibration
Grayscale before calibration
Saturation Sweeps before calibration
Saturation Sweeps before calibration
ColorChecker before calibration
ColorChecker before calibration
Grayscale after calibration
Grayscale after calibration
Saturation Sweeps after calibration
Saturation Sweeps after calibration
ColorChecker after calibration
ColorChecker after calibration

Display Response Times

Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times.
       Response Time Black to White
30.4 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 18 ms rise
↘ 12.4 ms fall
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.1 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 81 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is worse than the average of all tested devices (20.9 ms).
       Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey
34 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 17.6 ms rise
↘ 16.4 ms fall
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.165 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 42 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is similar to the average of all tested devices (32.8 ms).

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether.
Screen flickering / PWM not detected

In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 8705 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 343500) Hz was measured.


Outdoors on a bright cloudy day
Outdoors on a bright cloudy day
Wide IPS viewing angles. Slight contrast and color changes from extreme angles
Wide IPS viewing angles. Slight contrast and color changes from extreme angles

Performance

2x DDR4 SODIMM slots
2x DDR4 SODIMM slots

While the Core i7-9750H CPU can also be found on higher-end gaming laptops, the GeForce GTX 1650 puts the GF75 9SC squarely in the budget gaming category. The GTX 1650 is Nvidia's entry-level gaming GPU based on its latest Turing architecture to succeed the last generation Pascal series. It directly replaces the GTX 1050, GTX 1050 Ti, and GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q with performance levels rivaling the GTX 1060 as our benchmarks below will show.

There are no faster GPU options available. There are no G-Sync features as well since Nvidia Optimus comes standard.

Processor

CineBench R15
CineBench R15

CPU performance is 10 percent slower than the average Core i7-9750H CPU in our database taken from 20 other gaming laptops. In fact, results are only marginally better than the Core i7-8750H in last year's GF75 8RD by just a couple of percentage points. The jump from 8th gen Core i7 to 9th gen Core i7 is negligible for gaming purposes.

When running CineBench R15 Multi-Thread in a loop, we can observe a performance dip of almost 13 percent by the second loop since the processor is unable to sustain maximum Turbo Boost clock rates indefinitely. The Eurocom Nightsky RX17 with the same i7-9750H CPU is able to maintain a +16 percent lead over our MSI.

See our dedicated page on the Core i7-9750H for more technical information and benchmark comparisons.

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MSI GF75 Thin 9SC GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø970 (960.59-1110.2)
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H, Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø790 (787.28-796.5)
MSI GF75 8RD-001 GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø935 (909.48-1089.06)
MSI GF75 8RD-001 GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø935 (909.48-1089.06)
Eurocom Nightsky RX17 GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H, 2x Samsung SSD 970 Pro 512GB (RAID 0); CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø1137 (1123.56-1298.49)
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
Alienware m17 P37E
Intel Core i9-8950HK
191 Points +1%
MSI GE75 9SG
Intel Core i9-9880H
189 Points 0%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Core i7-9750H
189 Points
Average Intel Core i7-9750H
  (170 - 194, n=82)
183.7 Points -3%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
Intel Core i7-9750H
174 Points -8%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
Intel Core i7-8750H
172 Points -9%
MSI GF63 8RC-040XPL
Intel Core i5-8300H
171 Points -10%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
Intel Core i5-9300H
171 Points -10%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
157 Points -17%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
146 Points -23%
CPU Multi 64Bit
MSI GE75 9SG
Intel Core i9-9880H
1721 Points +61%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
Intel Core i7-9750H
1306 Points +22%
Alienware m17 P37E
Intel Core i9-8950HK
1238 Points +16%
Average Intel Core i7-9750H
  (952 - 1306, n=85)
1182 Points +10%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
Intel Core i7-8750H
1089 (909min - 1089max) Points +2%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
Intel Core i7-8750H
1089 (909.48min - 1089.06max) Points +2%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Core i7-9750H
1071 Points
MSI GF63 8RC-040XPL
Intel Core i5-8300H
805 Points -25%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H
799 Points -25%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
Intel Core i5-9300H
769 Points -28%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Intel Core i7-7700HQ
708 Points -34%
Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit
189 Points
Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit
1071 Points
Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit
117.4 fps
Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit
99.6 %
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System Performance

PCMark benchmarks rank the GF75 9SC consistently ahead of last year's GF75 8RD. We didn't experience any software or hardware issues during our time with the unit aside from the annoying MSI registration and pre-installed Norton Anti-Virus pop-ups.

PCMark 10 Standard
PCMark 10 Standard
PCMark 8 Home Accelerated
PCMark 8 Home Accelerated
PCMark 8 Work Accelerated
PCMark 8 Work Accelerated
PCMark 10
Score
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
6053 Points +15%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
5440 Points +4%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5249 Points
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4456 Points -15%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
4437 Points -15%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
4339 Points -17%
Essentials
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
9607 Points +6%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
9090 Points +1%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
9029 Points
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
8149 Points -10%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
8057 Points -11%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
6879 Points -24%
Productivity
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
7419 Points
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
7397 Points 0%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
7241 Points -2%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
7044 Points -5%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
6724 Points -9%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
6619 Points -11%
Digital Content Creation
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
8470 Points +45%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
6640 Points +13%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5859 Points
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4957 Points -15%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
4377 Points -25%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
4110 Points -30%
PCMark 8
Home Score Accelerated v2
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
5107 Points +24%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
4593 Points +12%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
4116 Points
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
4002 Points -3%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
3969 Points -4%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
Points -100%
Work Score Accelerated v2
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
5882 Points +9%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
5636 Points +4%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5417 Points
MSI GF75 8RD-001
GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
5317 Points -2%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
5015 Points -7%
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R5 3550H, WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
4898 Points -10%
PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2
4116 points
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2
5417 points
PCMark 10 Score
5249 points
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Storage Devices

Two internal storage bays are available in the form of M.2 2280 PCIe and a 2.5-inch SATA III bay. Our test unit from CUKUSA comes equipped with a 1 TB Crucial P1 SSD and a secondary 5400 RPM 2 TB Seagate HDD. Other resellers are likely to offer different brands and capacity configurations.

We're able to record sequential read and write rates of about 1100 MB/s and 1600 MB/s, respectively, from the Crucial SSD. In comparison, the faster and more expensive 512 GB Samsung SSD PM981 in the MSI GS65 can perform in the 1600 to 2000 MB/s range. For the target budget gamer, however, higher SSD capacity will generally be more desirable than faster transfer rates.

See our table of HDDs and SSDs for more benchmark comparisons.

CDM 5.5 (Primary SSD)
CDM 5.5 (Primary SSD)
CDM 5.5 (Secondary HDD)
CDM 5.5 (Secondary HDD)
HD Tune (Secondary HDD)
HD Tune (Secondary HDD)
AS SSD
AS SSD
Primary M.2 2280 slot
Primary M.2 2280 slot
Secondary 2.5-inch SATA III bay
Secondary 2.5-inch SATA III bay
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
MSI GF72VR 7RF
Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
WDC PC SN520 SDAPNUW-256G
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
AS SSD
19%
-28%
-65%
9%
Seq Read
1079
2337
117%
1546
43%
748
-31%
1153
7%
Seq Write
1566
897
-43%
1182
-25%
219
-86%
1328
-15%
4K Read
48.68
48.49
0%
36.54
-25%
25.7
-47%
35.05
-28%
4K Write
106.7
126.1
18%
109.2
2%
82.4
-23%
96
-10%
4K-64 Read
656
1122
71%
612
-7%
259.3
-60%
727
11%
4K-64 Write
751
359.7
-52%
436.6
-42%
190.2
-75%
1212
61%
Access Time Read *
0.044
0.053
-20%
0.113
-157%
0.159
-261%
0.063
-43%
Access Time Write *
0.131
0.03
77%
0.034
74%
0.058
56%
0.04
69%
Score Read
812
1405
73%
803
-1%
360
-56%
878
8%
Score Write
1014
575
-43%
664
-35%
294
-71%
1441
42%
Score Total
2281
2635
16%
1869
-18%
821
-64%
2784
22%
Copy ISO MB/s
1414
698
-51%
1487
5%
Copy Program MB/s
531
114.1
-79%
608
15%
Copy Game MB/s
1483
379.6
-74%
1162
-22%

* ... smaller is better

Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
CDM 5/6 Read Seq Q32T1: 1572 MB/s
CDM 5/6 Write Seq Q32T1: 1696 MB/s
CDM 5/6 Read 4K Q32T1: 584 MB/s
CDM 5/6 Write 4K Q32T1: 501 MB/s
CDM 5 Read Seq: 1386 MB/s
CDM 5 Write Seq: 1623 MB/s
CDM 5/6 Read 4K: 55.6 MB/s
CDM 5/6 Write 4K: 133 MB/s

GPU Performance

Graphics performance is where we expect it to be when compared to other gaming laptops in our database sporting the same GeForce GTX 1650 GPU. Results are on par with the last generation GTX 1060 when running DX12 titles and about 15 to 20 percent slower than the same GPU when running DX11 titles according to 3DMark benchmarks. Thus, users will want to enable DX12 when playing the latest titles to make the most of the Nvidia Turing GPU. Overall performance is about 30 to 60 percent faster than the old GTX 1050 Ti or GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q that the GTX 1650 directly replaces.

The best part about the mobile GTX 1650 is that it is essentially on par with the desktop GTX 1650. In contrast, the mobile RTX 2060 can be about 25 percent slower than the desktop RTX 2060.

3DMark 11
3DMark 11
Cloud Gate
Cloud Gate
Time Spy
Time Spy
Fire Strike
Fire Strike
Fire Strike Extreme
Fire Strike Extreme
Fire Strike Ultra
Fire Strike Ultra
3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
MSI GE75 9SG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile, i9-9880H
24623 Points +163%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H
21138 Points +126%
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H
18520 Points +98%
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, i7-8750H
16131 Points +73%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
15088 Points +61%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
13355 Points +43%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-8750H
11332 Points +21%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ
11011 Points +18%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
9536 Points +2%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H
9428 Points +1%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H
9350 Points
Gainward GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Desktop), R7 2700X
9195 Points -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (7741 - 9810, n=32)
9195 Points -2%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile, i7-8750H
7791 Points -17%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
7324 Points -22%
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme-20MF000XGE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
7199 Points -23%
Asus FX504GD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile, i5-8300H
6356 Points -32%
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
MSI GE75 9SG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile, i9-9880H
9754 Points +181%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H
8000 Points +131%
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H
7202 Points +108%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
5657 Points +63%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
4867 Points +40%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-8750H
3626 Points +4%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H
3568 Points +3%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
3565 Points +3%
Gainward GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Desktop), R7 2700X
3492 Points +1%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H
3470 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (2900 - 3700, n=31)
3430 Points -1%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile, i7-8750H
2536 Points -27%
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme-20MF000XGE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
2196 Points -37%
Asus FX504GD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile, i5-8300H
1597 Points -54%
2560x1440 Time Spy Score
MSI GE75 9SG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile, i9-9880H
9266 Points +148%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H
7863 Points +111%
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H
7153 Points +92%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
5743 Points +54%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
4547 Points +22%
Gainward GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Desktop), R7 2700X
3839 Points +3%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-8750H
3795 Points +2%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H
3731 Points
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
3573 Points -4%
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (3080 - 3978, n=30)
3562 Points -5%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H
3559 Points -5%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile, i7-8750H
2571 Points -31%
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme-20MF000XGE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
2361 Points -37%
Asus FX504GD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile, i5-8300H
1729 Points -54%
3DMark 11
1280x720 Performance GPU
MSI GE75 9SG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile, i9-9880H
34050 Points +159%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H
26752 Points +104%
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H
25765 Points +96%
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, i7-8750H
21380 Points +63%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
20181 Points +54%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
17170 Points +31%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ
14518 Points +10%
Gainward GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Desktop), R7 2700X
13759 Points +5%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H
13575 Points +3%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
13447 Points +2%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H
13143 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (10885 - 13575, n=30)
12797 Points -3%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-8750H
12620 Points -4%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile, i7-8750H
9466 Points -28%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
8741 Points -33%
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme-20MF000XGE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
8619 Points -34%
Asus FX504GD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile, i5-8300H
7133 Points -46%
1280x720 Performance Combined
MSI GE75 9SG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile, i9-9880H
16523 Points +39%
Eurocom Nightsky RX17
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2070 Mobile, i7-9750H
12512 Points +5%
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H
12441 Points +5%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H
11904 Points
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, i7-8750H
11842 Points -1%
Gainward GeForce GTX 1650 4 GB
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Desktop), R7 2700X
11707 Points -2%
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H
11670 Points -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (5870 - 12662, n=28)
9097 Points -24%
MSI GF75 8RD-001
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
8982 Points -25%
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme-20MF000XGE
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, i7-8750H
8589 Points -28%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile, i7-8750H
8540 Points -28%
HP Omen 15-dc1020ng
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i5-9300H
7595 Points -36%
MSI GF72VR 7RF
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ
7310 Points -39%
Asus FX504GD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile, i5-8300H
7025 Points -41%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-8750H
6839 Points -43%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H
6838 Points -43%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, R7 3750H
6644 Points -44%
3DMark 11 Performance
12993 points
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score
30331 points
3DMark Fire Strike Score
8367 points
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme Score
4064 points
3DMark Time Spy Score
3731 points
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Gaming Performance

Performance in Shadow of the Tomb Raider is on par with the Asus ROG GX531GM equipped with GTX 1060 graphics as predicted by the 3DMark results above. The system is perfectly capable of playing the latest games at 1080p so long as users are satisfied with low-medium to medium settings. It's unfortunate that G-Sync is unavailable as it would have paired nicely with the GTX 1650.

Running Witcher 3 shows no recurring frame dips to suggest no interrupting background activity when gaming. See our dedicated page on the GeForce GTX 1650 for more technical information and gaming benchmarks. 

Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1920x1080 Highest Preset AA:T
MSI GE75 9SG
Intel Core i9-9880H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Mobile
109 fps +142%
Asus G752VS
Intel Core i7-6820HK, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile
72 (59min) fps +60%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA502DU
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
49 fps +9%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Core i7-9750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
45 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
  (34 - 47, n=15)
43.2 fps -4%
Asus Zephyrus S GX531GM
Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile
43 fps -4%
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile
41 fps -9%
Asus G752VY
Intel Core i7-6700HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980M
39 (31min) fps -13%
Asus TUF FX705GE-EW096T
Intel Core i7-8750H, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Mobile
31 fps -31%
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MSI GF75 Thin 9SC GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8: Ø34.4 (32-37)
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BioShock Infinite (2013) 319.5 251 221.6 90.4
The Witcher 3 (2015) 209.1 126 67.6 37.7
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) 128 59 51 45

Emissions

System Noise

The CPU and GPU each get a fan and a pair of heat copper pipes. The cooling does not overlap between the processors which is rare for a budget gaming laptop. This means that one processor will not be thermally affected by the other since they do not share the same heat pipes.

The system fans almost never idle even when set to Eco mode. Expect a lowly but still audible fan noise of about 34 dB(A) when browsing or streaming video. When gaming, fan noise remains relatively constant at about 41 dB(A) to be quieter than many other gaming laptops where the mid-to-high 40 dB(A) range is more common. The MSI GP75 Leopard with faster GTX 1660 Ti graphics, for example, tops out at over 50 dB(A) when under the same gaming conditions.

We're able to notice no electronic noise or coil whine from our test unit.

Twin independent ~45 mm fans
Twin independent ~45 mm fans
Relatively short heat pipes for a 17.3-inch gaming laptop
Relatively short heat pipes for a 17.3-inch gaming laptop
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, i7-9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
MSI GF72VR 7RF
GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, i7-7700HQ, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, i7-9750H, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, i7-8750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, R7 3750H, Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8
Noise
-2%
-13%
3%
-2%
0%
off / environment *
28.2
28.1
-0%
29
-3%
28.3
-0%
27.8
1%
28.2
-0%
Idle Minimum *
33.6
31.4
7%
29
14%
31.5
6%
31.1
7%
28.2
16%
Idle Average *
33.6
31.4
7%
34
-1%
31.6
6%
31.1
7%
28.2
16%
Idle Maximum *
33.8
32.6
4%
37
-9%
31.6
7%
35
-4%
31.4
7%
Load Average *
37.2
39.4
-6%
53
-42%
32.3
13%
42
-13%
39.8
-7%
Witcher 3 ultra *
40.6
45.3
-12%
51
-26%
43
-6%
44.5
-10%
47
-16%
Load Maximum *
44.4
52
-17%
55
-24%
45.5
-2%
46.5
-5%
50.2
-13%

* ... smaller is better

Noise Level

Idle
33.6 / 33.6 / 33.8 dB(A)
Load
37.2 / 44.4 dB(A)
  red to green bar
 
 
30 dB
silent
40 dB(A)
audible
50 dB(A)
loud
 
min: dark, med: mid, max: light   Audix TM1, Arta (15 cm distance)   environment noise: 28.2 dB(A)

Temperature

No rear exhaust
No rear exhaust

Hot spots are along the rear quadrants of the laptop above the first row of keyboard keys as shown by our temperature maps below. The flat surface can become as warm as 44 C to 48 C when gaming. Fortunately, these hot spots are far from the palm rests for less frequent skin contact. The palm rests, WASD keys, Arrow keys, and NumPad are comparatively cooler in the 30 C to 35 C range for comfortable gaming.

The competing Lenovo Legion Y740 and Asus Strix G GL731 are able to run cooler and faster when gaming albeit in larger chassis sizes.

System idle (top)
System idle (top)
System idle (bottom)
System idle (bottom)
Witcher 3 stress (top)
Witcher 3 stress (top)
Witcher 3 stress (bottom)
Witcher 3 stress (bottom)
Maximum stress (top)
Maximum stress (top)
Maximum stress (bottom)
Maximum stress (bottom)
Max. Load
 47.8 °C
118 F
47.6 °C
118 F
47 °C
117 F
 
 36.6 °C
98 F
41.8 °C
107 F
35.6 °C
96 F
 
 29.4 °C
85 F
27.6 °C
82 F
31.2 °C
88 F
 
Maximum: 47.8 °C = 118 F
Average: 38.3 °C = 101 F
47.8 °C
118 F
42.8 °C
109 F
46.2 °C
115 F
29.2 °C
85 F
57 °C
135 F
29.4 °C
85 F
30.4 °C
87 F
30.2 °C
86 F
27.6 °C
82 F
Maximum: 57 °C = 135 F
Average: 37.8 °C = 100 F
Power Supply (max.)  48 °C = 118 F | Room Temperature 21.8 °C = 71 F | Fluke 62 Mini IR Thermometer
(-) The average temperature for the upper side under maximal load is 38.3 °C / 101 F, compared to the average of 33.9 °C / 93 F for the devices in the class Gaming.
(-) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 47.8 °C / 118 F, compared to the average of 40.5 °C / 105 F, ranging from 21.2 to 68.8 °C for the class Gaming.
(-) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 57 °C / 135 F, compared to the average of 43.2 °C / 110 F
(+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 27.7 °C / 82 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F.
(±) Playing The Witcher 3, the average temperature for the upper side is 35.9 °C / 97 F, compared to the device average of 33.9 °C / 93 F.
(+) The palmrests and touchpad are cooler than skin temperature with a maximum of 31.2 °C / 88.2 F and are therefore cool to the touch.
(-) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 28.9 °C / 84 F (-2.3 °C / -4.2 F).

Stress Test

We stress the system to identify for any potential throttling or stability issues. When running Prime95, CPU clock rates jump to 4.0 GHz for only the first few seconds until hitting a core temperature of 84 C. Thereafter, clock rates fall to the 2.8 to 2.9 GHz range in order to maintain a cooler core temperature of about 83 C as shown by our screenshot below. In comparison, the Asus ROG GL731 with the same Core i7-9750H CPU is able to maintain a faster clock rate of 3.2 GHz when under similar conditions. These observations support the underwhelming CineBench results of the GF75 9SC above. Running both Prime95 and FurMark simultaneously will cause CPU and GPU temperatures to plateau at 92 C and 78 C, respectively.

Running Witcher 3 is more representative of real-world gaming loads. The CPU and GPU stabilize at 68 C and 78 C, respectively, compared to 72 C and 65 C on the smaller 15.6-inch Asus TUF FX505DT equipped with the same GeForce GTX 1650 GPU. The already high GPU temperature may be why MSI offers no other faster GPU options at the moment for its GF75 Thin series.

Running on battery power will limit performance. A 3DMark Fire Strike run on batteries returns Physics and Graphics scores of 10134 and 7800 points, respectively, compared to 16799 and 9350 points when on mains.

System idle
System idle
Prime95 stress
Prime95 stress
Witcher 3 stress
Witcher 3 stress
Prime95+FurMark stress
Prime95+FurMark stress
CPU Clock (GHz) GPU Clock (MHz) Average CPU Temperature (°C) Average GPU Temperature (°C)
System Idle -- -- 34 38
Prime95 Stress 2.8 - 2.9 -- 83 41
Prime95 + FurMark Stress 3.2 1410 92 78
Witcher 3 Stress 4.1 1650 ~68 78

Speakers

Stereo speakers near the front corners
Stereo speakers near the front corners
Audio quality is imbalanced with poor bass
Audio quality is imbalanced with poor bass
dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2044.350.32539.242.63139.140.84039.6395036.437.96337.139.3803836.810036.5361253437.216034.242.820032.952.925033.158.631532.261.740031.3645003167.363030.777.780032.182.7100030.676.312503070.716003072.3200029.26725002968.3315028.562.1400028.362.4500028.268630027.766.3800027.867.81000027.964.31250027.6661600027.658.5SPL41.685N4.358.2median 30median 66Delta2.25.435.335.132.931.831.83236.535.132.428.93328.936.328.848.32761.52752.924.860.92462.822.763.32269.521.267.82174.82075.919.472.718.97117.770.117.86917.671.817.668.117.671.417.673.717.670.417.571.617.671.617.669.617.459.717.583.630.662.51.5median 69.6median 17.84.72.4hearing rangehide median Pink NoiseMSI GF75 Thin 9SCApple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz
Frequency diagram (checkboxes can be checked and unchecked to compare devices)
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC audio analysis

(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (85 dB)
Analysis not possible as minimum curve is missing or too high

Apple MacBook 12 (Early 2016) 1.1 GHz audio analysis

(+) | speakers can play relatively loud (83.6 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(±) | reduced bass - on average 11.3% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (14.2% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 2.4% away from median
(+) | mids are linear (5.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (4.5% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (10.2% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 6% of all tested devices in this class were better, 2% similar, 92% worse
» The best had a delta of 5%, average was 19%, worst was 53%
Compared to all devices tested
» 4% of all tested devices were better, 1% similar, 95% worse
» The best had a delta of 4%, average was 25%, worst was 134%

Energy Management

Power Consumption

Idling on desktop demands anywhere between 6 W and 25 W depending on the brightness setting and power profile. When gaming, power consumption hovers around 106 W compared to 130 W on the last generation MSI GF72 with GTX 1060 graphics. It's an 18 percent power savings for roughly the same GPU performance when running DX12 titles.

When running Prime95, power consumption spikes to 125 W for just a few seconds as shown by our graph below. This behavior corroborates with our stress test observations above where CPU clock rates would be fastest only during the first few seconds before eventually dropping.

We're able to record a maximum consumption of 192 W from the relatively small (~16.6 x 8 x 2.5 cm) 150 W AC adapter when running both Prime95 and FurMark simultaneously. Since this high of a power consumption is unsustainable, consumption eventually falls to below 150 W after just a few seconds. Thus, it will be impossible to get full CPU and GPU performance simultaneously when both processors are at 100 percent utilization because of the 150 W AC adapter. It's still possible to play games and recharge the laptop simultaneously.

Prime95 initiated at 20s mark. Consumption spikes to 125 W before dropping to 76 W
Prime95 initiated at 20s mark. Consumption spikes to 125 W before dropping to 76 W
Relatively constant consumption when running 3DMark 06
Relatively constant consumption when running 3DMark 06
Power Consumption
Off / Standbydarklight 0.41 / 0.8 Watt
Idledarkmidlight 6.1 / 11.2 / 24.5 Watt
Load midlight 94.7 / 192.2 Watt
 color bar
Key: min: dark, med: mid, max: light        Metrahit Energy
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3"
MSI GF72VR 7RF
i7-7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, Samsung PM961 MZVLW256HEHP, TN LED, 1920x1080, 17.3"
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3"
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
i7-8750H, GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB512HAJQ, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3"
Asus TUF FX505DT-EB73
R7 3750H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, Intel SSD 660p SSDPEKNW512G8, IPS, 1920x1080, 15.6"
MSI GF75 8RD-001
i7-8750H, GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Max-Q, Kingston RBUSNS8154P3256GJ1, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3"
Power Consumption
-39%
-24%
-67%
20%
15%
Idle Minimum *
6.1
15.7
-157%
10
-64%
17.8
-192%
7
-15%
6.5
-7%
Idle Average *
11.2
21.4
-91%
15
-34%
24.7
-121%
9.9
12%
11.9
-6%
Idle Maximum *
24.5
21.9
11%
22
10%
29.6
-21%
12
51%
13.1
47%
Load Average *
94.7
83.9
11%
92
3%
110
-16%
68.4
28%
86
9%
Witcher 3 ultra *
105.8
130.2
-23%
153
-45%
167.8
-59%
94.9
10%
Load Maximum *
192.2
159.6
17%
216
-12%
178.6
7%
130.9
32%
131
32%

* ... smaller is better

Battery Life

Expect just over 4.5 hours of real-world WLAN use when set to the Balanced profile with the integrated Intel GPU active. Results are essentially the same as the older GF75 8RD (284 minutes vs. 281 minutes) even though the GF75 9SC is the faster configuration.

Charging from empty to full capacity takes just under 2 hours. Battery capacity is relatively small for a 17.3-inch laptop which is to be expected from a budget gaming model.

Battery Runtime
WiFi Websurfing
4h 44min
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, 51 Wh
MSI GF72VR 7RF
i7-7700HQ, GeForce GTX 1060 Mobile, 43 Wh
Asus TUF FX705DT-AU068T
R5 3550H, GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile, 64 Wh
MSI GP75 Leopard 9SD
i7-9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Mobile, 51 Wh
Lenovo Legion Y740-17ICH
i7-8750H, GeForce RTX 2080 Max-Q, 76 Wh
HP Omen 17t-3AW55AV_1
i7-8750H, GeForce GTX 1070 Mobile, 86 Wh
Battery Runtime
-50%
65%
-33%
-33%
-11%
WiFi v1.3
284
142
-50%
469
65%
190
-33%
190
-33%
253
-11%
Reader / Idle
201
815
286
268
Load
41
124
38
97

Pros

+ quieter than most gaming laptops when gaming
+ 2x storage bays, 2x SODIMM slots
+ lightweight for a 17.3-inch laptop
+ full-size Arrow keys
+ integrated NumPad
+ narrow bezels

Cons

- no per-key RGB lighting, Thunderbolt 3, or SD reader
- below average CPU performance; weak Turbo Boost
- fans never idle even when browsing or streaming
- servicing requires breaking a 'factory seal' sticker
- no 120/144 Hz or fast display response times
- flexible chassis and lid; mostly thin plastic
- strange Kensington Lock positioning
- pricey for a budget gaming laptop

Verdict

In review: MSI GF75 Thin 9SC. Test model provided by Computer Upgrade King
In review: MSI GF75 Thin 9SC. Test model provided by Computer Upgrade King

It's tough to recommend a gaming laptop with the Core i7-9750H when the performance benefits over a Core i7-8750H are almost negligible. It's too bad that MSI doesn't offer the GF75 with the Core i7-8750H and GTX 1650 instead because gaming performance would have been essentially the same but for a cheaper price.

Speaking of price, the $1200 USD base MSRP is a little high for a budget gaming laptop. The MSI GL73 8SD, for example, comes equipped with a Core i7-8750H CPU and faster GTX 1660 Ti graphics for under $1100. The price premium for the GF75 goes towards the narrow bezels, light weight, and compact design rather than raw performance. If you intend on traveling frequently and can make use of a relatively lightweight 17.3-inch screen with respectable gaming qualities, then the MSI GF75 should fit the bill. Otherwise, users interested in the highest performance-per-buck may want to look elsewhere as laptops with the superior GTX 1660 Ti can be found for around the same price such as the HP Pavilion Gaming 17 or base Alienware m17.

The MSI GF75 is one of the lighter 17.3-inch gaming laptops available especially at this price range. You'll have to give up some performance and features along the way to make this more of a traveler-gamer hybrid than a pure gaming laptop.

MSI GF75 Thin 9SC - 10/26/2019 v7 (old)
Allen Ngo

Chassis
73 / 98 → 74%
Keyboard
77%
Pointing Device
75%
Connectivity
43 / 80 → 54%
Weight
61 / 10-66 → 92%
Battery
62 / 95 → 65%
Display
88%
Games Performance
85%
Application Performance
91%
Temperature
85 / 95 → 89%
Noise
80 / 90 → 89%
Audio
50%
Camera
38 / 85 → 44%
Average
70%
78%
Gaming - Weighted Average

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> Expert Reviews and News on Laptops, Smartphones and Tech Innovations > Reviews > Thin is in: MSI GF75 Thin 9SC Laptop Review
Allen Ngo, 2019-07-16 (Update: 2019-07-16)