Testing the performance of AMD Radeon 780M & 760M iGPUs with new drivers
We got our hands on AMD’s new Zen 4 mobile processors and Radeon 780M integrated GPU for the first time in April this year, first with the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 and later the ROG Ally gaming handheld. Though we’ve had the opportunity to check out other devices in the meantime, but all of them have one thing in common: they still came with pre-release drivers. AMD only managed to release an official driver, the Adrenaline 23.7.2, in late July. Today we are going to check out how the Radeon 780M and 760M iGPUs perform with the new drivers.
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Specifications - RDNA 3 with maximum 12 CUs
The new Ryzen 7040 CPUs (both HS and U series) are equipped with the new RDNA 3-based iGPUs. As is previously the case, the processors come with different integrated graphics, depending on their performance class. Ryzen 9 and Ryzen 7 CPUs feature the top-end Radeon 780M with 12 cores (768 shaders) and a max clock speed of 2.8 GHz. The lower-tier Radeon 760M is found on some Ryzen 5 CPUs and only gets 8 cores with a max speed of 2.6 GHz, whilst the Radeon 740M has to make do with 4 cores and a max clock speed of 2.5 GHz (Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 3). Last year’s Radeon 680M likewise sports 12 cores (768 shaders) but can only reached a peak speed of 2.4 GHz. Refer to our tech spec page for more information on the Radeon 780M.
Test systems from HP and Lenovo
This time round, our first test system is a Lenovo LOQ 15 featuring an AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS, a Radeon 760M and two sticks of 8 GB DDR5 5600 RAM. We have previously reviewed the LOQ 15 with the faster Ryzen 7 7840HS. Up next is the business-oriented HP EliteBook 845 G10 sporting an AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS alongside a Radeon 780M. Our review configuration is shipped with a single 32 GB RAM module (DDR5-5600) by default, but we replaced it with two 16 GB Crucial modules (DDR5-5600) for our iGPU testing. The new Adrenalin 23.7.2 driver was installed on both systems. The processors in these two laptops both have a long-duration max power draw of more than 40 watts, meaning the performance of the iGPUs are not constrained by low power limits.
Synthetic benchmarks
In synthetic benchmarks, there wasn’t any improvement in performance, and the ROG Ally gaming handheld continued to lead the field thanks to its faster memory. In general, it remains true that the Radeon 780M is only slightly ahead of the older Radeon 680M. The 760M had a significantly better showing, with a substantial boost in performance of 25% to nearly 50% over a snappy variant of the previous Radeon 660M (in the ThinkPad T16). Looking at the results, it is quite apparent that the Radeon 780M has relatively weak performance. We’ll have to wait and see whether future driver updates can produce any improvement here.
Gaming benchmarks
Gaming results on the new driver version are once again sobering for the Radeon 780M. There are generally no real differences between this iGPU and the previous Radeon 680M. In most cases, you’ll still be limited to Full HD gaming at medium to high settings. The Radeon 760M, on the other hand, managed to pull clear of the older Radeon 660M and isn’t currently that far-off from the 780M in gaming benchmarks. If you look at the specs of both iGPUs, the 780M should in theory have a larger lead over the 760M. This prompted us to repeat our tests multiple times – without seeing any differences in the results. There are also further reports online mentioning the 780M performs worse with the new driver version, but the 760M doesn’t seem to be affected by this.
The Witcher 3 - 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+) | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 660M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
GTA V - 1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 660M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark - 1920x1080 High Quality | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 660M |
Strange Brigade - 1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16 | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 660M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
Dota 2 Reborn - 1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 660M |
X-Plane 11.11 - 1920x1080 high (fps_test=3) | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 660M |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 | |
1920x1080 Medium Preset | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
1920x1080 High Preset | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
F1 23 | |
1920x1080 Low Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
1920x1080 Medium Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
1920x1080 High Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M |
Gaming benchmarks Radeon 780M HP EliteBook 845 G10
low | med. | high | ultra | |
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GTA V (2015) | 157.3 | 147.2 | 58.6 | 22.3 |
The Witcher 3 (2015) | 129 | 39 | 24 | |
Dota 2 Reborn (2015) | 148.3 | 120.7 | 75.9 | 71.6 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark (2018) | 71.3 | 35.7 | 26.7 | |
X-Plane 11.11 (2018) | 54.1 | 38.4 | 32.2 | |
Far Cry 5 (2018) | 72 | 39 | 36 | 35 |
Strange Brigade (2018) | 147.5 | 62.4 | 52.8 | 45.2 |
F1 2021 (2021) | 197.8 | 93.7 | 69.9 | 31.5 |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 (2022) | 30 | 25 | 20 | |
F1 22 (2022) | 77 | 68.3 | 52 | |
F1 23 (2023) | 75.3 | 67 | 48.1 |
Gaming benchmarks Radeon 760M Lenovo LOQ 15
low | med. | high | ultra | |
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GTA V (2015) | 141 | 126.2 | 50.5 | 18.1 |
The Witcher 3 (2015) | 123 | 78 | 38 | 23 |
Dota 2 Reborn (2015) | 151.6 | 110.9 | 75.1 | 68.2 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark (2018) | 61.1 | 30.9 | 22.7 | |
X-Plane 11.11 (2018) | 48.8 | 36.7 | 29.8 | |
Far Cry 5 (2018) | 74 | 38 | 35 | 33 |
Strange Brigade (2018) | 133.3 | 52.6 | 44.4 | 38 |
F1 2021 (2021) | 172.1 | 82.5 | 61.6 | 26.1 |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 (2022) | 30 | 24 | 18 | |
F1 22 (2022) | 75.9 | 66.5 | 49 | |
F1 23 (2023) | 71.6 | 63.6 | 45.5 |
Single-channel vs. dual-channel RAM
Memory continues to play a crucial role in the performance of integrated GPUs, and our HP EliteBook G10 test unit illustrates this very clearly. Right out of the box, our review configuration is only equipped with a single RAM module, which markedly reduces graphics performance. When paired with single-channel RAM, the Radeon 780M often performs worse than the Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 with 96 EUs and only offers a marginal improvement over the older RX Vega 8 iGPU, which is still used by AMD in some current APUs (e.g. Ryzen 7 7730U). If you want to game a little on a laptop with an iGPU, there is no getting around a dual-channel configuration.
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000) |
3DMark | |
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000) | |
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000) | |
Wild Life Extreme Unlimited | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 760M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000) |
The Witcher 3 - 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+) | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA |
GTA V - 1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark - 1920x1080 High Quality | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA |
Strange Brigade - 1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 |
Dota 2 Reborn - 1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA |
X-Plane 11.11 - 1920x1080 high (fps_test=3) | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 - 1920x1080 Medium Preset | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA |
F1 22 - 1920x1080 High Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 |
F1 23 - 1920x1080 High Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA |
Far Cry 5 - 1920x1080 Ultra Preset AA:T | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo LOQ 15APH8 Ryzen 5 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
HP EliteBook 845 G10 818N0EA | |
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 16ABR G8 |
Verdict - Radeon 780M disappoints & 760M surprises
Our testing has clearly shown that the driver situation remains fraught at AMD: not only did it take them three months to release the first official driver after the products’ launch, the driver itself barely improves the Radeon 780M’s performance. There were even some reports of people getting substantially worse gaming performance with the new driver, which thankfully isn’t the case during our testing. On the other hand, considering the great results delivered by the lower-tier Radeon 760M and its performance edge over the previous Radeon 660M, you’ll quickly realise that we haven’t yet witness the full potential of the Radeon 780M.
The first official driver for the Radeon 780M is a disappointment: the iGPU continues to offer a similar level of performance as the older Radeon 680M, and performance can sometimes even be worse than with pre-release drivers. AMD urgently needs to improve the situation.
It remains vital for systems with iGPUs to be kitted out with dual-channel RAM, or else performance will suffer massively. In single-channel mode, even the Radeon 780M only runs slightly faster than the old RX Vega 8 and is just on par with Intel’s Iris Xe Graphics G7 performance-wise. By contrast, we are positively surprised by the Radeon 760M. Most of all, this makes cheaper laptops with the new Ryzen 5 CPUs attractive and also means they can provide you with a decent gaming experience at 1080p.
Of course, we will continue to keep track of the situation and repeat our tests as soon as AMD releases new drivers.