AMD Radeon 780M iGPU analysis - AMD's new RDNA-3 GPU takes on its competitors
The AMD Zen4 Phoenix is here and after testing the Ryzen 9 7940HS processor, now it is time to take a look at the Radeon 780M. This new iGPU will likely play an especially big part in combination with the new U series processors since compact devices often don't have a dedicated graphics card. Last year's AMD Radeon 680M took a big lead over Intel's Iris Xe Graphics G7, which is also used in this year's Raptor Lake processors.
In the following article, we will be checking out the new Radeon 780M's performance in multiple different synthetic benchmarks, plus we will be taking a first look at its efficiency. We will of course add to this article - especially as soon as the new U series chips, such as the Ryzen 7 7840U, become available.
Update May 5th: We now have first benchmark results for the Radeon 780M with LPDDR5-6400 memory in a dual-channel configuration. We cannot share any more details about the laptop specs right now.
Specifications - RDNA 3 with a maximum of 12 CUs
The new Ryzen 7040 CPUs (HS and U series) are equipped with new iGPUs based on the RDNA 3 architecture. Depending on performance class, there are different versions - the same as it was with the previous releases. The top model Radeon 780M, which has 12 cores (768 shaders) and a maximum clock rate of 2.7 GHz, is put to use in the Ryzen 9 and Ryzen 7 CPUs (originally 2.8 GHz, but according to AMD it is now a maximum of 2.7 GHz). The smaller Radeon 760M in the Ryzen 5 CPUs has 8 cores and a maximum of 2.6 GHz - and the Radeon 740M only has 4 cores with a maximum of 2.5 GHz (Ryzen 5 & Ryzen 3). Last year's Radeon 680M was also equipped with 12 cores (768 shaders), but could only reach a maximum clock rate of 2.4 GHz. More information on the Radeon 780M is available in our tech section.
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Test system - Asus ROG Zephyrus G14
We have tested the ROG Zephyrus G14's Radeon 780M in combination with the new Ryzen 9 7940 HS. The ROG G14 is equipped with a 32 GB DDR5-4800 RAM in Dual-Channel mode - which is, of course, not ideal for the iGPU. Although, since the G14 has a dedicated GeForce GPU, faster RAM was not a priority and the manufacturer instead decided to make it expandable with the help of an SO-DIMM slot.
At least in comparison to 5600 RAM, differences in performance remain marginal and this was confirmed in our synthetic tests - so our test device had no issues. The Nvidia GPU was fully deactivated for our measurements and did not influence our results. We used version 22.40.03.24 of the driver.
As previously mentioned, we are aware that these conditions are less than ideal. However, as of now, there are no other test devices available (certainly not with the new U series CPUs) and its entry onto the market seems a little chaotic on AMD's side. We also recently heard from AMD that the 780M's maximum clock rate will lie at 2,700 MHz and not 2,800 MHz like our test device. As soon as we receive further test devices, we will update this article.
Synthetic benchmarks
Now, we will start with the well-known synthetic 3DMarks, which tackle its pure DirectX performance. In the old 3DMark 11, we measured a slight lead ahead of the old Radeon 680M - but in the 3DMark tests Fire Strike, Time Spy & WildLife Extreme, it lay only a little ahead and at the end of the day, their performances were pretty identical.
Update May 5th: The Radeon 780M with LPDDR5-6400 memory (in the following table mentioned as Radeon 780M without model designation) is between 4 and up to 9 % faster than the Radeon 780M with DDR5-4800 memory in the 3DMark tests.
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
We measured improved performance levels during our ray tracing test Port Royal - here, the new Radeon 780M lay 55 per cent ahead of the old Radeon 680M. On the other hand, its gaming performance was all-in-all too low to use ray tracing. Its OpenGL performance improved in multiple tests - here, we saw improvements of up to 20 per cent compared to the 680M.
GFXBench / Aztec Ruins High Tier Offscreen | |
Apple M2 10-Core GPU | |
Apple M2 8-Core GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 680M |
GFXBench / 4K Aztec Ruins High Tier Offscreen | |
Apple M2 10-Core GPU | |
Apple M2 8-Core GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 780M |
GFXBench / Aztec Ruins Normal Tier Offscreen | |
Apple M2 10-Core GPU | |
Apple M2 8-Core GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M |
GFXBench / Car Chase Offscreen | |
Apple M2 10-Core GPU | |
Apple M2 8-Core GPU | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
AMD Radeon 680M |
Gaming benchmarks
We tested the Radeon 780M using a selection of older games and some new ones - here, the results were overall also a little disappointing, as we only identified the new iGPU as having a clear advantage in a few games, such as Cyberpunk 2077. Often, the 780M and the 680M did similarly well, which means the small dedicated GeForce MX550 still has a clear advantage for playing games.
The Witcher 3 - 1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+) | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Lenovo Yoga 7 16IRL8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 |
GTA V - 1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 7 16IRL8 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark - 1920x1080 High Quality | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Lenovo Yoga 7 16IRL8 |
Strange Brigade - 1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16 | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 |
Dota 2 Reborn - 1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 7 16IRL8 | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 |
X-Plane 11.11 - 1920x1080 high (fps_test=3) | |
Lenovo ThinkPad T14 G3-21AJS00400 | |
Lenovo Yoga 9 14IRP G8 | |
Lenovo Yoga 7 16IRL8 | |
Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14ARP G8 | |
Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 GA402XY | |
Lenovo ThinkPad P14s G3 AMD 21J6S05000 |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 | |
1920x1080 Medium Preset | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
1920x1080 High Preset | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 680M |
Far Cry 6 | |
1920x1080 Medium Graphics Quality AA:SM | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
1920x1080 High Graphics Quality AA:T | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 Mobile | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 2022 | |
1920x1080 Balanced Quality Preset AA:T2X SM | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX450 | |
1920x1080 Ultra Quality Preset AA:T2X Filmic SM | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX450 |
Next, we will be using Witcher 3 to analyze its efficiency, as the CPU has a comparatively small influence on this game. Furthermore, we took our measurements using an external monitor in order to rule out the internal display as an influencing factor. Comparing it to the current Lenovo Yoga Pro 7 14 is especially interesting - the Ryzen 7 7735HS with its Radeon 680M uses similar power limits. We just saw how little a difference there was between their gaming performance - the same thing can be said for efficiency. We are curious as to whether the coming U series CPUs will bring any improvements.
Power Consumption - Witcher 3 ultra Efficiency (external Monitor) | |
Apple M2 Pro 19-Core GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 Laptop GPU | |
Apple M2 Pro 16-Core GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3050 6GB Laptop GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX450 | |
AMD Radeon 680M | |
AMD Radeon 780M | |
NVIDIA GeForce MX550 | |
Intel Iris Xe Graphics G7 96EUs |
Gaming benchmarks Radeon 780M ROG Zephyrus G14
low | med. | high | ultra | |
---|---|---|---|---|
GTA V (2015) | 160.8 | 147.2 | 58.8 | 21 |
The Witcher 3 (2015) | 142 | 42 | 26.4 | |
Dota 2 Reborn (2015) | 148.3 | 117.7 | 77.9 | 71.6 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark (2018) | 70.6 | 34.3 | 25.9 | |
X-Plane 11.11 (2018) | 55 | 39.3 | 32.8 | |
Strange Brigade (2018) | 145.5 | 58.5 | 49.4 | 41.7 |
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) | 100 | 36 | 32 | 27 |
Watch Dogs Legion (2020) | 72 | 41 | 33 | 18 |
F1 2021 (2021) | 182.4 | 84.8 | 65.1 | 27.6 |
Far Cry 6 (2021) | 83 | 43 | 37 | 35 |
Rainbow Six Extraction (2022) | 65 | 48 | 45 | 33 |
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6 (2022) | 39.3 | 30.2 | 24 | 22.3 |
Tiny Tina's Wonderlands (2022) | 55.82 | 39.94 | 27.52 | 23.86 |
F1 22 (2022) | 77.6 | 68.4 | 50.3 | 13.9 |
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 2022 (2022) | 49 | 45 | 33 | 30 |
Video decoder
We would also like to take a quick look at the built-in video decoder. It interests us to see how highly the iGPU is loaded, for example when playing high-quality video. Last year's Radeon 680M (~4 per cent on YouTube at 4K) already did much better than Intel's iGPUs - their GPU load lay at around 44 per cent. This advantage became apparent in many of our laptop tests where we tested their battery life in our video test - here, the AMD models generally did better. Seemingly, nothing has changed when it comes to the new Radeon 780M - its GPU load remains very similar.
Verdict - The Radeon 780M's first results are quite sobering
All-in-all, our first results after testing the new Radeon 780M are somewhat sobering - while gaming, we only noted a marginal lead ahead of the old Radeon 680M. The conditions were not the best due to the slow RAM, so we will add to this article as soon as we get our hands on new test devices. However, since AMD have since announced that the Radeon 780M's maximum clock rate will be 2.7 GHz instead of 2.8 GHz (like in our test device), the increased performance might prove to be a struggle, even when using faster RAM.
Gaming performance is also still a little rocky. Generally, the 780M is about on the same level as the old 680M, but there are outliers in both directions. We assume that AMD will improve the situation by releasing some new driver updates. Its ray tracing could definitely do with some improvements, although due to its overall minimal performance level, you can pretty much forget RT when you are playing games.
During the first benchmarks, the new Radeon 780M is about on the same level as the old Radeon 680M. So, it still has a clear advantage over Intel's iGPUs - but nothing changes about it trailing behind Apple's M2 GPUs.
On the whole, the launch of the new Zen4 Phoenix APUs - along with the new Radeon 780M - has been anything but perfect so far. We are still being surprised by new information (such as the 780M's reduced clock rate). Test devices are scarce goods, but now there are at least a few devices with the new HS CPUs on the market (where the iGPU doesn't actually play that big a role due to dedicated GPUs). We have yet to see a trace of the first U series chips such as the Ryzen 7 7840U and we have no idea if there will even be any first test devices. Currently, it seems as if gaming handhelds like the coming ROG Ally are being favored. Last year, the availability of Zen3+ models was already quite scarce and only now are they being brought out in larger numbers as the newly named Ryzen 7000 models. We can only hope that the Zen4 chips will not suffer the same fate.