Does a laptop with both the Core i7-1065G7 Iris Plus and GeForce MX250 make sense for gaming? We give our early thoughts
In contrast to the somewhat stale 10th gen Comet Lake-U series, the 10th gen Ice Lake-U Iris Plus series offers the biggest performance boost in integrated graphics yet for the mobile ULV Intel Core family. The difference is so large when compared to the dated UHD Graphics 620 that raw performance can actually be quite close to the GeForce MX150 or MX250 in some specific cases. And yet, OEMs like Acer and HP will be offering laptops with both the Core i7-1065G7 Iris Plus and GeForce MX250 graphics.
Since games can only run on one GPU or the other, it begs the question: Does it make any sense to have a laptop with both the Core i7-1065G7 Iris Plus integrated GPU and discrete GeForce MX250 GPU?
When looking at synthetic 3DMark benchmarks, the integrated Iris Plus GPU can be anywhere between 0 to 20 percent slower than the MX150 or MX250. 3DMark 11, for example, shows the Iris Plus to be just within a few percentage points of the MX250. Thus, one might assume that the discrete Nvidia GPU would not be needed since the Iris Plus GPU should offer almost the same performance. The problem with this perspective is that 3DMark scores do not compare very well between two completely different GPU series; they work best when comparing two GPUs of the same series instead. For example, if 3DMark shows a 40 percent difference between the Nvidia GTX 1060 and Nvidia RTX 2070 Max-Q, then that claim would translate much more accurately to real-world gaming conditions than say a 20 percent difference between the Intel Iris Plus and Nvidia GeForce MX250.
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3DMark 11 | |
1280x720 Performance Combined | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (3532 - 4638, n=29) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1280x720 Performance Physics | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (5037 - 11006, n=29) | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
1280x720 Performance GPU | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (3585 - 4942, n=29) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T |
3DMark | |
1920x1080 Fire Strike Physics | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (3409 - 14601, n=28) | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (2939 - 3885, n=29) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1920x1080 Fire Strike Score | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (2726 - 3567, n=28) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1920x1080 Ice Storm Extreme Physics | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (30290 - 62086, n=7) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
1920x1080 Ice Storm Extreme Graphics | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (22385 - 81895, n=7) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1920x1080 Ice Storm Extreme Score | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (23763 - 74583, n=7) | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Physics | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (2413 - 9653, n=25) | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (13805 - 23863, n=25) | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Score | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (8009 - 17955, n=25) | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Asus VivoBook 15 X512FL-EJ205T | |
Asus Zenbook 14 UX433FN-A6023T | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W |
To prove this, we ran a few commonly played games on a Core i7-1065G7 laptop and then compared the average frame rates to that of a laptop with GeForce MX250 graphics. If those 3DMark scores above are accurate, then we should expect a 20 to 25 percent boost when jumping from the Core i7-1065G7 Iris Plus to the GeForce MX250. In reality, we're recording frame rate advantages as high as 50 percent to 70 percent in favor of the Nvidia GPU in games like Rocket League and Shadow of the Tomb Raider. Other games like Bioshock Infinite or Overwatch are even more in favor of Nvidia.
Additional factors may also be responsible for the larger-than-expected real-world gaming performance gap between Iris Plus and the GeForce MX250. Firstly, GeForce GPUs are significantly better optimized for gaming than the Intel Iris series. Gaming on Iris graphics has always been a gamble in terms of compatibility and performance and this continues to be true on Ice Lake-U. Secondly, the GeForce GPU is less likely to be bottlenecked by the CPU since it has its own dedicated pool of VRAM and resources. It is able to utilize its full TDP envelope instead of only a portion of the 15 W or 25 W TDP for the Core i7-1065G7 Iris Plus.
For video editing or encoding purposes, the 15 W Core i7-1065G7 will be about the same as the Whiskey Lake-U Core i7-8565U. You'd have to upgrade to the more demanding 25 W version for an appreciable CPU speed boost of 25 to 30 percent.
Granted, our 3DMark and gaming benchmark results were done on pre-production Ice Lake-U units and so they do not fully represent any Ice Lake-U laptops currently on store shelves. Bottlenecks elsewhere like RAM were not accounted for during these tests. Nonetheless, we still expect to see similar patterns based on our experience with existing Intel Iris-powered PCs. We'll be revisiting the Core i7-1065G7 in the weeks ahead with consumer-ready laptops like the Dell XPS 13 7390 2-in-1, Razer Blade Stealth refresh, and HP Spectre to paint a bigger picture of how the Iris Plus compares to the GeForce MX250.
Rocket League | |
1280x720 Performance | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (175.4 - 182.9, n=3) | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
1920x1080 Quality AA:Medium FX | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (77 - 109, n=3) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
1920x1080 High Quality AA:High FX | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (52.1 - 80, n=3) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W |
Shadow of the Tomb Raider - 1280x720 Lowest Preset | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (24 - 56, n=8) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-53PU | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W |
Overwatch - 1280x720 Low (Render Scale 100 %) AA:FX AF:1x | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (166.4 - 171.7, n=2) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W |
The Witcher 3 | |
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (47.4 - 70, n=24) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-53PU | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (30 - 40, n=27) | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-53PU | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W | |
1920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off) | |
Huawei MateBook 13 i7 | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-723L | |
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250 (16.3 - 23.1, n=27) | |
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14IWL | |
Acer Aspire 5 A515-52G-53PU | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 15 W | |
Intel SDS Core i7-1065G7 Preliminary Sample 25 W |