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AMD Ryzen 7 7840U vs Apple M2

AMD Ryzen 7 7840U

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The Ryzen 7 7840U is a powerful laptop processor (APU) of the Phoenix product family. Its eight Zen 4 cores run at 3.3 GHz to 5.1 GHz and are SMT-enabled for a total of 16 processing threads. The great Radeon 780M is responsible for 3D processing and similar duties; the 7840U also features Ryzen AI which is AMD's answer to Intel's GNA and DL Boost.

Architecture & Features

Phoenix family chips are powered by the Zen 4 architecture, much like Dragon Range family chips are. The latter however lacks hardware AI workload acceleration capabilities that Phoenix has.

More importantly, Zen 4 introduces some rather solid AVX512 support (which Zen 3 chips did not have) and, thanks to a plethora of other improvements including larger caches/registers/buffers across the board, is set to bring a double-digit IPC improvement.

Elsewhere, the 7840U has 16 MB of L3 cache and support for super-fast DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5x-7500 RAM. The chip is compatible with USB 4 and thus with Thunderbolt. It comes with 20 PCIe 4 lanes for NVMe SSD speeds of up to 7.8 GB/s.

Systems built around the 7840U are designed to run 64-bit Windows 11, 64-bit Windows 10, or Linux. Please note that this processor is not overclockable and neither is it user-replaceable. It gets soldered down for good instead (FP7, FP7r2, FP8 socket interfaces).

Performance

The average 7840U in our extensive database is about as fast as the Core i7-12650H, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This means the Ryzen 7 APU packs quite a wallop, as of mid 2023.

Thanks to its decent cooling solution and a long-term CPU power limit of 35 W, the Framework Laptop 13.5 is among the fastest systems powered by the 7840U that we know of. It can be about 30% faster than the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of December 2023.

Graphics

The Radeon 780M has 12 CUs (768 shaders) purring away at up to 2,700 MHz. This is exactly the right iGPU for people looking for a bit more horsepower than what Intel's aging Xe options can provide. The Radeon will let you use up to 4 monitors with resolutions as high as SUHD 4320p and it will also HW-decode and HW-encode the most widely used video codecs (including AV1, HEVC and AVC) without breaking a sweat. In terms of gaming, the thing is good enough for 1080p and medium-to-low settings, as of late 2023.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are, how competent the cooling solution of your system is, how fast the RAM of your system is (there is no dedicated VRAM here).

Power consumption

This Ryzen 7 series chip has a long-term power limit (default TDP) of 28 W. Laptop makers are free to change that value significantly, with values as low as 15 W and as high as 30 W greenlighted by AMD. Either way, an active cooling solution is a must for any system powered by this chip.

The 7840U is built with TSMC's 4 nm process for high, as of late 2023, energy efficiency.

Apple M2

► remove from comparison Apple M2

The Apple M2 is a System on a Chip (SoC) from Apple that is found in the late 2022 MacBook Air and, MacBook Pro 13. It offers 8 cores divided in four performance cores and four power-efficiency cores. The big cores offer 192 KB instruction cache, 128 KB data cache, and 16 MB shared L2 cache (up from 12 MB). The four efficiency cores are a lot smaller and offer only 128 KB instruction cache, 64 KB data cache, and 4 MB shared cache. The efficiency cores (E cluster) clock with  up to 2,4 GHz, the performance cores (P cluster) with up to 3,5 GHz and therefore higher than the M1 cores. The architecture should be similar to the A15 (iPhone 13) with Avalanche and Blizzard cores.

The chip features a unified memory architecture for the CPU and GPU cores and supports up to 24 GB LPDDR5-6400 for a bandwidth of up to 100GB/s.

According to Apple, the M2 offers a 18% higher CPU performance at the same power consumption level compared to the Apple M1. In our tests, the MacBook Pro 13 with active cooling was able to reach the 18% in Geekbench Multi. In other benchmarks we measured 12 to 15% gains compared to the M1. Therefore, the performance is now near the M1 Pro with 8 cores. The passively cooled MacBook Air may however suffer from throttling in longer load scenarios.

The integrated graphics card in the M2 offers 8 or 10 cores and a peak performance of 3.6 TFLOPs.

Furthermore, the SoC integrates a fast 16 core neural engine with a peak performance of 16 TOPS (for AI hardware acceleration), a secure enclave (e.g., for encryption), Thunderbolt / USB 4 controller, an ISP, and media de- and encoders.

The Apple M2 includes 20 billion transistors (up from the 16 billion of the M1) and is manufactured in the second generation 5nm process at TSMC (most likely N5P). The power consumption is rated at 20W what we also measured under CPU load.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 7840UApple M2
SeriesAMD Phoenix (Zen 4, Ryzen 7040)Apple Apple M2
CodenamePhoenix-U (Zen 4)
Series: Apple M2
AMD Ryzen 7 7840U « 3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 7640U compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
Apple M2 Max compare2.42 - 3.7 GHz12 / 12 cores48 MB L3
Apple M2 Pro compare2.42 - 3.5 GHz12 / 12 cores24 MB L3
Apple M2 Pro 10-Core compare2.42 - 3.7 GHz10 / 10 cores24 MB L3
Apple M2 « 2.42 - 3.48 GHz8 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Clock3300 - 5100 MHz2424 - 3480 MHz
L1 Cache512 KB2 MB
L2 Cache8 MB20 MB
L3 Cache16 MB8 MB
Cores / Threads8 / 16
8 x 5.1 GHz AMD Zen 4
8 / 8
TDP28 Watt20 Watt
Technology4 nm5 nm
Die Size178 mm2
max. Temp.100 °C
SocketFP7/FP7r2/FP8
FeaturesDDR5-5600/LPDDR5x-7500 RAM, PCIe 4, Ryzen AI, AES, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX (+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3ARMv8 Instruction Set
iGPUAMD Radeon 780M ( - 2700 MHz)Apple M2 10-Core GPU ( - 1398 MHz)
Architecturex86ARM
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.apple.com
Transistors20000 Million

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R7 7840U
42.1 pt (58%)
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Single Core
min: 81     avg: 89     median: 89 (62%)     max: 97 Points
136%
M2 +
121 Points (84%)
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Multi Core
min: 609     avg: 670     median: 669.5 (12%)     max: 730 Points
77%
M2 +
513 Points (10%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 11739     avg: 12884     median: 12719 (12%)     max: 15074 Points
68%
M2 +
min: 8517     avg: 8654     median: 8667 (8%)     max: 8772 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 1373     avg: 1646     median: 1677.5 (71%)     max: 1742 Points
94%
M2 +
min: 1580     avg: 1595     median: 1585 (67%)     max: 1638 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
min: 533     avg: 644     median: 661.5 (74%)     max: 678 Points
58%
M2 +
min: 216     avg: 370.8     median: 381 (42%)     max: 446 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
min: 4469     avg: 5039     median: 4967.5 (12%)     max: 5917 Points
47%
M2 +
min: 2231     avg: 2325     median: 2324 (6%)     max: 2416 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 1024.7     avg: 1946     median: 1990 (13%)     max: 2439 Points
61%
M2 +
min: 1209.9     avg: 1222     median: 1215 (8%)     max: 1243 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 217     avg: 256.3     median: 264 (80%)     max: 272 Points
84%
M2 +
min: 222     avg: 223.8     median: 223 (67%)     max: 229 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 20.46     avg: 22.6     median: 22.6 (29%)     max: 24.8 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 2.6     avg: 2.8     median: 2.8 (69%)     max: 2.97 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 5996     avg: 6669     median: 6669 (40%)     max: 7342 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 36812     avg: 38490     median: 38489.5 (28%)     max: 40167 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (64bit)
min: 59874     avg: 63534     median: 63533.5 (44%)     max: 67193 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (64bit)
min: 11172     avg: 12089     median: 12089 (15%)     max: 13006 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
87.1 s (1%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
3.5 s (1%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 1024m *
565 s (2%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 32m *
17.8 s (9%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
min: 5629     avg: 5723     median: 5723 (9%)     max: 5817 Points
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 50087     avg: 55687     median: 55145 (32%)     max: 62156 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 4657     avg: 5816     median: 5952 (71%)     max: 6408 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
min: 105.52     avg: 108.8     median: 108.8 (38%)     max: 112.1 fps
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
min: 232     avg: 237.3     median: 237.3 (55%)     max: 242.64 fps
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 14.4     avg: 15.7     median: 15.2 (27%)     max: 18.6 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
min: 0.953     avg: 1     median: 1 (0%)     max: 1 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
min: 1.5     avg: 1.6     median: 1.6 (27%)     max: 1.6 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
min: 6.1     avg: 8.5     median: 8.5 (22%)     max: 10.8 GB/s
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 332     avg: 418.5     median: 421 (5%)     max: 503 Seconds
97%
M2 +
min: 540     avg: 620     median: 619.5 (8%)     max: 702 Seconds
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 208     avg: 250.7     median: 259.5 (2%)     max: 270 Seconds
98%
M2 +
min: 549     avg: 614     median: 597 (4%)     max: 713 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.4559     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (10%)     max: 0.581 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 12402     avg: 12635     median: 12482 (27%)     max: 13021 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 7.238     avg: 8.3     median: 8.3 (2%)     max: 9.397 s
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
min: 18.168     avg: 20.9     median: 20.9 (1%)     max: 23.633 s
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 626.26     avg: 706     median: 705.7 (3%)     max: 785.226 s
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
min: 60726     avg: 63048     median: 63563 (56%)     max: 64340 Points
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 12375     avg: 16776     median: 16474 (45%)     max: 19923 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
min: 64410     avg: 71391     median: 72497 (59%)     max: 76886 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
min: 64515     avg: 70689     median: 72428 (59%)     max: 75123 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 65423     avg: 72363     median: 74802 (63%)     max: 76863 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 9655     avg: 15027     median: 15932.5 (40%)     max: 17714 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 17823     avg: 21701     median: 21733 (39%)     max: 25050 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 6548     avg: 8147     median: 8030 (34%)     max: 9501 Points
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Single-Core
min: 1982     avg: 2367     median: 2394 (73%)     max: 2562 Points
110%
M2 +
min: 2593     avg: 2622     median: 2621.5 (80%)     max: 2650 Points
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Multi-Core
min: 7310     avg: 9791     median: 10584 (42%)     max: 11489 Points
95%
M2 +
min: 10034     avg: 10064     median: 10063.5 (40%)     max: 10093 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1355     avg: 1705     median: 1738 (73%)     max: 1933 Points
110%
M2 +
min: 1890     avg: 1918     median: 1917 (81%)     max: 1953 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 7399     avg: 9113     median: 9382 (17%)     max: 10558 Points
96%
M2 +
min: 8491     avg: 8839     median: 8961 (16%)     max: 8994 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1411     avg: 1488     median: 1487.5 (6%)     max: 1564 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 8055     avg: 8417     median: 8417 (27%)     max: 8779 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
6140 Points (61%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 30359     avg: 32401     median: 32400.5 (36%)     max: 34442 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 509     avg: 567     median: 550 (1%)     max: 746 ms
100%
M2 +
min: 440     avg: 452.4     median: 450.9 (1%)     max: 466.8 ms
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 81820     avg: 82676     median: 82676 (74%)     max: 83532 Points
90%
M2 +
min: 72484     avg: 74097     median: 74614 (67%)     max: 75776 Points
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
min: 196.4     avg: 225.1     median: 231 (66%)     max: 256 Points
98%
M2 +
min: 223     avg: 235.5     median: 226.5 (65%)     max: 256 Points
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 188.4     avg: 262.1     median: 262 (55%)     max: 322 Points
144%
M2 +
min: 342     avg: 369.1     median: 377 (79%)     max: 387 Points
Antutu v9 - AnTuTu v9 Total Score
100%
1 M2 +
min: 1257990     avg: 1337360     median: 1337360 (81%)     max: 1416730 Points
Antutu v9 - AnTuTu v9 CPU
100%
1 M2 +
min: 294643     avg: 298254     median: 298254 (82%)     max: 301865 Points
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 1256     avg: 1513     median: 1544 (59%)     max: 1804 Points
98%
M2 +
min: 1496     avg: 1533     median: 1520 (58%)     max: 1585 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 33.1     avg: 45.7     median: 47.2 (8%)     max: 54.7 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 36.2     avg: 42.6     median: 41.4 (8%)     max: 50.4 Watt
102%
1 M2 +
29 Watt (5%)
Power Consumption - Geekbench 5.5 Power Consumption 150cd *
100%
1 M2 +
min: 9.08     avg: 9.4     median: 9.4 (4%)     max: 9.71 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 3.38     avg: 8.7     median: 7.2 (5%)     max: 14.9 Watt
103%
1 M2 +
min: 2.03     avg: 2.6     median: 2.4 (2%)     max: 3.98 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 3.99     avg: 7.9     median: 6.9 (8%)     max: 15.1 Watt
103%
1 M2 +
min: 2.32     avg: 4.1     median: 4.7 (5%)     max: 5.32 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
min: 42.1     avg: 48     median: 47.1 (35%)     max: 55.1 Points per Watt
90%
1 M2 +
42.4 Points per Watt (32%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 7840U → 100% n=19

Average Benchmarks Apple M2 → 93% n=19

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