AMD Ryzen 5 3580U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics card with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

As the Ryzen 5 3580U CPU specification is identical to the Ryzen 5 3500U, the processor performance should be similar. AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U and 3580U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3500U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. In Chromebooks, AMD calles the APU AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, but with the exact same specifications (and performance).

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz). The performance in our tests depends a lot on the used TDP settings and cooling system. Looking at our Cinebench R15 loop you see a huge difference on the sustained performance, but not as high as for the Ryzen 7 3700U. The average Ryzen 5 3500U for example is even slightly faster than an average Ryzen 7 3700U in our tests (performance rating). Compared with Intel CPUs, the 3500U is on par with a Intel Core i5-8265U (Whiskey Lake Quad-Core 1.6 - 3.9 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 5 3580UAMD Ryzen 5 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
2100 - 3700 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
384 KB384 KB
2 MB2 MB
4 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 8
15 15
4500 4500
12 12
AM4AM4
XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
37.5 pt (38%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3500U
37.6 pt (38%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
352 Points (55%)
min: 317     avg: 354     median: 364 (57%)     max: 372 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1549 Points (15%)
min: 1063     avg: 1436     median: 1477 (14%)     max: 1540 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
693 Points (15%)
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min: 482     avg: 642     median: 650 (14%)     max: 682 Points
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Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
139 Points (51%)
min: 131     avg: 142     median: 143 (53%)     max: 147 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
7.8 Points (16%)
7.6 Points (15%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.7 Points (53%)
1.7 Points (53%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4525 (40%)
min: 4542     avg: 4556     median: 4557.5 (41%)     max: 4565
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
18307 (31%)
min: 13249     avg: 16322     median: 17230.5 (29%)     max: 17578
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
275 s (3%)
368 s (4%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
7.2 s (1%)
12.9 s (3%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2924 (19%)
2455 (16%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
15209 MIPS (12%)
min: 15825     avg: 16929     median: 17024.5 (13%)     max: 17508 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
3572 MIPS (24%)
min: 3502     avg: 3541     median: 3538 (23%)     max: 3580 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
40.1 fps (18%)
39.2 fps (18%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
135 fps (40%)
135 fps (40%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
4.1 fps (13%)
min: 3.35     avg: 3.9     median: 4 (13%)     max: 4.15 fps
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TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (16%)
0.4 GB/s (18%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.6 GB/s (16%)
0.7 GB/s (18%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
3.5 GB/s (13%)
4.4 GB/s (16%)
Blender 2.79 - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
710 Seconds (5%)
min: 680     avg: 704     median: 694 (5%)     max: 795.9 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.734     avg: 0.7     median: 0.7 (16%)     max: 0.804 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (31%)
min: 5044     avg: 5951     median: 5950.5 (33%)     max: 6857 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 s (1%)
27.8 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 s (3%)
697 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (25%)
18229 Points (21%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
6856 Points (28%)
min: 5213     avg: 6267     median: 6402.5 (26%)     max: 6967 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
47473 Points (31%)
min: 29562     avg: 32942     median: 30254 (19%)     max: 48997 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
48287 Points (51%)
min: 30656     avg: 34184     median: 31241.5 (33%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
52082 Points (54%)
min: 26201     avg: 36686     median: 32088 (33%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
6687 Points (17%)
min: 5217     avg: 6435     median: 6613 (17%)     max: 7132 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
9805 Points (25%)
min: 7496     avg: 9199     median: 9380 (24%)     max: 10054 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
2898 Points (20%)
min: 2450     avg: 2660     median: 2696 (19%)     max: 2880 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
16467 Points (32%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
12317 Points (25%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
11917 Points (31%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
min: 9503     avg: 12182     median: 13040 (23%)     max: 13145
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
min: 3258     avg: 3405     median: 3442.5 (71%)     max: 3478
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
13873 (22%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
3682 (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 (60%)
3669 (57%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 (29%)
10597 (26%)
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 3400     avg: 3785     median: 3893 (53%)     max: 3924
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 10099     avg: 11388     median: 11783 (19%)     max: 12171
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 772     avg: 880     median: 896 (53%)     max: 913
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 2599     avg: 3035     median: 3118.5 (19%)     max: 3244
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Single-Core
900 (50%)
min: 777     avg: 884     median: 898.5 (50%)     max: 905
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Multi-Core
2990 (18%)
min: 2543     avg: 3076     median: 3155.5 (19%)     max: 3234
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
1243 ms (2%)
min: 1101     avg: 1272     median: 1274.4 (2%)     max: 1692.7 ms
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
129 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
28517 Points (45%)
min: 19083     avg: 26794     median: 27809 (44%)     max: 32938 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
41.1 Watt (11%)
min: 24     avg: 33.7     median: 34.7 (9%)     max: 42.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
40 Watt (11%)
min: 34.5     avg: 37     median: 38 (10%)     max: 38.5 Watt

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 100% n=38

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3500U → 97% n=38

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