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AMD A10-9620P vs Intel Celeron 3865U vs AMD A12-9700P

AMD A10-9620P

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The AMD A10-9620P is a mid-range APU of the Bristol Ridge series (7th generation of APUs) with 4 CPU-cores (two Excavator modules) clocked at 2.5 - 3.4 GHz. In our tests the A10-9620P even hit 3.6 GHz.

It was announced in 2017 and is based on the same silicon as Carrizo but with more and refined features. It is a ULV-chip with a TDP of 15 Watt and integrates a Radeon R5 graphics card (384 shader cores / 6 compute cores) and a dual-channel DDR4-18600 memory controller. As Carrizo its a full featured SoC that offers all I/O ports on the chip.

The A10-9620P is a bit faster than the old 15-Watt top model of Carrizo, the FX-8800P. See our Bristol Ridge article for more information on the architecture and improvements compared to Carrizo.

Intel Celeron 3865U

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The Intel Celeron 3865U is an ULV (ultra low voltage) dual-core SoC based on the Kaby-Lake architecture and has been launched in the first quarter of 2017. The CPU can be found in ultrabooks as well as normal notebooks. In addition to two CPU cores clocked at 1.8 GHz (no Turbo Boost, no HyperThreading), the chip also integrates an HD Graphics 610 GPU and a dual-channel DDR4-2133/DDR3L-1600 memory controller. The SoC is manufactured using a 14 nm process with FinFET transistors.

Architecture

Intel basically uses the same micro architecture compared to Skylake, so the per-MHz performance does not differ. The manufacturer only reworked the Speed Shift technology for faster dynamic adjustments of voltages and clocks, and the improved 14nm process allows much higher frequencies combined with better efficiency than before.

Performance

Due to the missing Turbo Boost and the low clock speeds, especially the single thread performance is very limited which results in a lower performance even for lower demanding tasks. The performance should be noticeably slower than the Celeron 3965 which offers 400 MHz higher clocked CPU cores. Therefore, the CPU is only suited for entry level tasks like office, web surfing and multimedia.

Graphics

The integrated graphics unit called HD Graphics 610 (similar to the HD Graphics 510) represents the "GT1" version of the Kaby Lake GPU (Intel Gen. 9). Its 12 Execution Units, also called EUs, are clocked at 300 - 900 MHz and offer a performance somewhat below the older HD Graphics 4400. Only a few games of 2015 can be played smoothly in lowest settings.

Power Consumption

Specified at a TDP of 15 W (including CPU, GPU and memory controller), the CPU is best suited for small notebooks and ultrabooks (11-inches and above). Optionally, the TDP can be lowered to 10 watts (cTDP down), reducing both heat dissipation and performance and allowing even more compact designs.

AMD A12-9700P

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The AMD A12-9700P is a mainstream SoC from the Bristol-Ridge APU series for notebooks (7th APU generation), which was announced mid 2016. The ULV chip with a TDP of 15 Watts (can be configured to 12 Watts) has four CPU cores (two Excavator modules), a Radeon R7 GPU as well as a dual-channel DDR4-1866 memory controller. Carrizo is a full-fledged SoC and is also equipped with an integrated chipset, which provides all I/0 ports.

Architecture

Bristol Ridge is the successor of the Carrizo architecture and the design is almost identical. Thanks to optimized manufacturing processes and more aggressive Boost behavior, however, the clocks are a bit higher at the same power consumption. The memory controller now also supports DDR4-RAM, in this case up to 1866 MHz. More technical details are available in the following articles:

Performance

The performance of the A12-9700P is between the two 15-Watt processors A10-9600P and FX-9800P, and therefore roughly on par with a 15-Watt Core i3 from the Skylake or Kaby Lake series, respectively. Compared to the Intel model, the AMD chip has a small advantage in multi-thread scenarios, but is beaten when you only stress one or two cores. Due to the TDP limitation, the performance of the A12-9700P will drop significantly under sustained workloads.

This means there is sufficient performance for typical office and web applications as well as light multitasking.

Graphics Card

The integrated Radeon R7 (Bristol Ridge) GPU has 512 active shader units (8 compute cores) clocked at up to 758 MHz. Thanks to the better utilization of the clock range as well as faster DDR4-RAm, the GPU can slightly beat its predecessors Radeon R7 (Carrizo) and competes with a dedicated GeForce 920MX in the best-case scenario (dual-channel memory, low CPU requirements). Many games from 2015/2016 can be played smoothly at low settings. 

Power Consumption

AMD specifies the TDP of the A12-9700P with 15 Watts, which is comparable to Intel's ULV models. This means the CPU is a good choice for thin notebooks starting with a 12-inch screen.

ModelAMD A10-9620PIntel Celeron 3865UAMD A12-9700P
SeriesAMD Bristol RidgeIntel Kaby LakeAMD Bristol Ridge
CodenameBristol RidgeKaby LakeBristol Ridge
Series: Bristol Ridge Bristol Ridge
AMD FX-9830P3 - 3.7 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A12-9830B3 - 3.7 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD FX-9800P2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A12-9800B2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A12-9720P2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A12-9700P2.5 - 3.4 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A10-9620P « 2.5 - 3.4 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A10-9600P2.4 - 3.3 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A8-9600B2.4 - 3.3 GHz4 / 4 cores
Intel Core i7-7700K4.2 - 4.5 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-77003.6 - 4.2 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Xeon E3-1535M v63.1 - 4.2 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7920HQ3.1 - 4.1 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7700T2.9 - 3.8 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7600K3.8 - 4.2 GHz4 / 4 cores8 MB L3
Intel Xeon E3-1505M v63 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7820HQ2.9 - 3.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7820HK2.9 - 3.9 GHz4 / 8 cores8 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7700HQ2.8 - 3.8 GHz4 / 8 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-75003.4 - 3.8 GHz4 / 4 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7440HQ2.8 - 3.8 GHz4 / 4 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7567U3.5 - 4 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7660U2.5 - 4 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7600U2.8 - 3.9 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7300HQ2.5 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7500T2.7 - 3.3 GHz4 / 4 cores6 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7287U3.3 - 3.7 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7560U2.4 - 3.8 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7267U3.1 - 3.5 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7360U2.3 - 3.6 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7500U2.7 - 3.5 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7300U2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7260U2.2 - 3.4 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7200U2.5 - 3.1 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Core i3-7100H3 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Core i3-7167U2.8 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Core i7-7Y751.3 - 3.6 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7Y571.2 - 3.3 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i5-7Y541.2 - 3.2 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Core i3-7100U2.4 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Core m3-7Y321 - 3 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 4415U2.3 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Core m3-7Y301 - 2.6 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Intel Celeron 3965U2.2 GHz2 / 2 cores2 MB L3
Intel Core i3-7020U2.3 GHz2 / 4 cores3 MB L3
Intel Celeron 3867U1.8 GHz2 / 2 cores2 MB L3
Intel Celeron 3865U « 1.8 GHz2 / 2 cores2 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 4425Y1.7 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 4415Y1.6 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Pentium Gold 4410Y1.5 GHz2 / 4 cores2 MB L3
Intel Celeron 3965Y1.5 GHz2 / 2 cores2 MB L3
AMD FX-9830P3 - 3.7 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A12-9830B3 - 3.7 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD FX-9800P2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A12-9800B2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A12-9720P2.7 - 3.6 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A12-9700P « 2.5 - 3.4 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A10-9620P2.5 - 3.4 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD A10-9600P2.4 - 3.3 GHz4 / 4 cores
AMD PRO A8-9600B2.4 - 3.3 GHz4 / 4 cores
Clock2500 - 3400 MHz1800 MHz2500 - 3400 MHz
L2 Cache2 MB512 KB2 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 42 / 24 / 4
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors3100 Million3100 Million
Technology28 nm14 nm28 nm
Die Size250 mm2250 mm2
max. Temp.90 °C100 °C90 °C
SocketFP4BGAFP4
FeaturesDual-Channel DDR3/DDR4-1866 Memory Controller, PCIe 3.0 x8Dual-Channel LPDDR3-1866/DDR4-2133/DDR3L-1600 Memory Controller, HyperThreading, AVX, AVX2, Quick Sync, Virtualization, AES-NIDual-Channel DDR3/DDR4-1866 Memory Controller, PCIe 3.0 x8
iGPUAMD Radeon R5 (Bristol Ridge) ( - 758 MHz)Intel HD Graphics 610 (300 - 900 MHz)AMD Radeon R7 (Bristol Ridge) ( - 758 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
L1 Cache128 KB
L3 Cache2 MB
$107 U.S.
Manufacturerark.intel.comproducts.amd.com

Benchmarks

Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
230 Points (1%)
142 Points (1%)
min: 222     avg: 225.5     median: 225.5 (1%)     max: 229 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
72 Points (22%)
72 Points (22%)
min: 78     avg: 79     median: 79 (24%)     max: 80 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
2.7 Points (3%)
1.7 Points (2%)
min: 1.92     avg: 2.3     median: 2.3 (3%)     max: 2.62 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
0.8 Points (20%)
0.9 Points (21%)
min: 0.76     avg: 0.9     median: 0.9 (21%)     max: 0.94 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
2277 Points (14%)
2853 Points (17%)
min: 2262     avg: 2429     median: 2429 (15%)     max: 2596 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
7420 Points (5%)
5425 Points (4%)
min: 5148     avg: 6168     median: 6168 (4%)     max: 7188 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
470.9 s (6%)
1213 s (14%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
14.4 s (3%)
39.4 s (8%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
1329 Points (2%)
1108 Points (2%)
1462 Points (2%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
16.3 fps (6%)
10.8 fps (4%)
16.7 fps (6%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
76.6 fps (18%)
54.4 fps (13%)
84.6 fps (20%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.1 GB/s (0%)
0.2 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.1 GB/s (2%)
0.4 GB/s (6%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
0.8 GB/s (2%)
1.8 GB/s (5%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 3344     avg: 3498     median: 3498 (7%)     max: 3652 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
18.2 s (4%)
21.4 s (5%)
19.2 s (4%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
40.3 s (2%)
48.1 s (2%)
42.1 s (2%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
977 s (4%)
1120 s (5%)
980 s (4%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
7608 Points (7%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
2399 Points (6%)
1906 Points (5%)
min: 2524     avg: 2527     median: 2527 (7%)     max: 2530 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
22553 Points (18%)
15039 Points (12%)
25886 Points (21%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
24032 Points (19%)
14983 Points (12%)
25743 Points (21%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
15647 Points (13%)
27373 Points (23%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
2338 Points (6%)
1375 Points (3%)
min: 2283     avg: 2306     median: 2306 (6%)     max: 2329 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
3175 Points (6%)
1609 Points (3%)
min: 2981     avg: 3125     median: 3124.5 (6%)     max: 3268 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
1069 Points (5%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
2240 Points (22%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
3719 Points (4%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
2182 Points (30%)
2158 Points (29%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3564 Points (9%)
4899 Points (12%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
3224 Points (6%)
min: 5371     avg: 5464     median: 5464 (10%)     max: 5557 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
1843 Points (36%)
min: 2062     avg: 2091     median: 2091 (41%)     max: 2120 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
3392 Points (5%)
5824 Points (9%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
1933 Points (29%)
2308 Points (35%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
5368 Points (43%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
4800 Points (44%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
2838 Points (6%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
3251 Points (7%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
3627 Points (9%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
2443 ms (3%)
2059 ms (2%)
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
176.6 ms (2%)
164.9 ms (2%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
13961 Points (13%)
19404 Points (17%)
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
31.9 Watt (6%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
33.3 Watt (6%)

Average Benchmarks AMD A10-9620P → 100% n=17

Average Benchmarks Intel Celeron 3865U → 80% n=17

Average Benchmarks AMD A12-9700P → 102% n=17

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