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AMD Ryzen 7 7840U vs AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS

AMD Ryzen 7 7840U

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The Ryzen 7 7840U is a powerful laptop processor (APU) of the Phoenix product family. Its eight Zen 4 cores run at 3.3 GHz to 5.1 GHz and are SMT-enabled for a total of 16 processing threads. The great Radeon 780M is responsible for 3D processing and similar duties; the 7840U also features Ryzen AI which is AMD's answer to Intel's GNA and DL Boost.

Architecture & Features

Phoenix family chips are powered by the Zen 4 architecture, much like Dragon Range family chips are. The latter however lacks hardware AI workload acceleration capabilities that Phoenix has.

More importantly, Zen 4 introduces some rather solid AVX512 support (which Zen 3 chips did not have) and, thanks to a plethora of other improvements including larger caches/registers/buffers across the board, is set to bring a double-digit IPC improvement.

Elsewhere, the 7840U has 16 MB of L3 cache and support for super-fast DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5x-7500 RAM. The chip is compatible with USB 4 and thus with Thunderbolt. It comes with 20 PCIe 4 lanes for NVMe SSD speeds of up to 7.8 GB/s.

Systems built around the 7840U are designed to run 64-bit Windows 11, 64-bit Windows 10, or Linux. Please note that this processor is not overclockable and neither is it user-replaceable. It gets soldered down for good instead (FP7, FP7r2, FP8 socket interfaces).

Performance

The average 7840U in our extensive database is about as fast as the Core i7-12650H, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This means the Ryzen 7 APU packs quite a wallop, as of mid 2023.

Thanks to its decent cooling solution and a long-term CPU power limit of 35 W, the Framework Laptop 13.5 is among the fastest systems powered by the 7840U that we know of. It can be about 30% faster than the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of December 2023.

Graphics

The Radeon 780M has 12 CUs (768 shaders) purring away at up to 2,700 MHz. This is exactly the right iGPU for people looking for a bit more horsepower than what Intel's aging Xe options can provide. The Radeon will let you use up to 4 monitors with resolutions as high as SUHD 4320p and it will also HW-decode and HW-encode the most widely used video codecs (including AV1, HEVC and AVC) without breaking a sweat. In terms of gaming, the thing is good enough for 1080p and medium-to-low settings, as of late 2023.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are, how competent the cooling solution of your system is, how fast the RAM of your system is (there is no dedicated VRAM here).

Power consumption

This Ryzen 7 series chip has a long-term power limit (default TDP) of 28 W. Laptop makers are free to change that value significantly, with values as low as 15 W and as high as 30 W greenlighted by AMD. Either way, an active cooling solution is a must for any system powered by this chip.

The 7840U is built with TSMC's 4 nm process for high, as of late 2023, energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS

► remove from comparison AMD R5 7640HS

The Ryzen 5 7640HS is an upper mid-range processor (APU) of the Phoenix product family. It was brought to life in H1 2023 and it has 6 SMT-enabled Zen 4 cores (12 threads) running at 4.3 GHz to 5.0 GHz. The laptop chip is one of the first to feature Ryzen AI, AMD's answer to Intel's DL Boost and GNA technologies. The Radeon 760M iGPU is responsible for carrying out 3D calculations and similar duties.

Architecture & Features

Phoenix family chips are powered by the Zen 4 architecture, much like Dragon Range family chips are. The latter however lacks hardware AI workload acceleration capabilities that Phoenix has.

More importantly, Zen 4 introduces AVX512 support (Zen 3-powered chips did not have that) and, thanks to a plethora of other improvements including larger caches/registers/buffers across the board, is set to bring a double-digit IPC improvement.

Elsewhere, the 7640HS has 16 MB of L3 cache and a super-fast DDR5-5600 / LPDDR5x-7500 RAM controller. USB 4 (and thus Thunderbolt) is supported natively and so is PCIe 4. In fact, 20 PCIe 4 lanes are on offer; data transfer speeds of up to 7.8 GB/s will be possible provided a sufficiently fast NVMe SSD is used.

Systems powered by this Ryzen 5 series chip are expected to run 64-bit Windows 11, 64-bit Windows 10, or Linux. Please note that the APU is not overclockable and neither will you be able to replace it with a faster one as it gets soldered down permanently (FP7, FP7r2, FP8 socket interfaces).

Performance

The average 7640HS in our database is about as fast as the Ryzen 9 5900HX, Ryzen 7 6800H, Ryzen 7 7736U and also the Core i5-12500H, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a good if not record-breaking result as of mid 2023. Such a CPU will handle pretty much any task you can throw at it, gaming included.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.

Graphics

The Radeon 760M has 8 CUs (512 shaders) running at up to 2,600 MHz. While this is not the best graphics adapter for gaming as it's only just fast enough for low quality settings and resolutions such as 1600 x 900, it will let you connect up to four SUHD 4320p monitors and it also HW-encodes and HW-decodes the most widely used video codecs such as AV1, HEVC and AVC.

Power consumption

The 7640HS has a long-term power limit (default TDP) of 35 W to 54 W, giving laptop makers a choice between improving battery life and giving the system they are working on more oomph. Either way, an active cooling solution is a must for any system powered by this chip.

The APU is built with TSMC's 4 nm process for high, as of late 2023, energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 7840UAMD Ryzen 5 7640HS
SeriesAMD Phoenix (Zen 4, Ryzen 7040)AMD Phoenix (Zen 4, Ryzen 7040)
CodenamePhoenix-U (Zen 4)Phoenix-HS (Zen 4)
Series: Phoenix (Zen 4, Ryzen 7040) Phoenix-HS (Zen 4)
AMD Ryzen 7 7840U « 3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 7640U compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 9 7940HS compare4 - 5.2 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 9 PRO 7940HS compare4 - 5.2 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 7840HS compare3.8 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 7840S compare3.8 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 7840HS compare3.8 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS « 4.3 - 5 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
Clock3300 - 5100 MHz4300 - 5000 MHz
L1 Cache512 KB384 KB
L2 Cache8 MB6 MB
L3 Cache16 MB16 MB
Cores / Threads8 / 16
8 x 5.1 GHz AMD Zen 4
6 / 12
TDP28 Watt45 Watt
Technology4 nm4 nm
Die Size178 mm2178 mm2
max. Temp.100 °C100 °C
SocketFP7/FP7r2/FP8FP7/FP7r2/FP8
FeaturesDDR5-5600/LPDDR5x-7500 RAM, PCIe 4, Ryzen AI, AES, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX (+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3DDR5-5600/LPDDR5x-7500 RAM, PCIe 4, Ryzen AI, AES, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX (+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3
iGPUAMD Radeon 780M ( - 2700 MHz)AMD Radeon 760M ( - 2600 MHz)
Architecturex86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R7 7840U
42.1 pt (58%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 7640HS
43.2 pt (60%)
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Single Core
min: 81     avg: 89     median: 89 (62%)     max: 97 Points
Cinebench 2024 - CB24 CPU Multi Core
min: 609     avg: 670     median: 669.5 (12%)     max: 730 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 11739     avg: 12884     median: 12719 (12%)     max: 15074 Points
13029 Points (12%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 1373     avg: 1646     median: 1677.5 (71%)     max: 1742 Points
1715 Points (73%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
min: 533     avg: 644     median: 661.5 (74%)     max: 678 Points
667 Points (74%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
min: 4469     avg: 5039     median: 4967.5 (12%)     max: 5917 Points
5044 Points (12%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 1024.7     avg: 1946     median: 1990 (13%)     max: 2439 Points
2079 Points (13%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 217     avg: 256.3     median: 264 (80%)     max: 272 Points
271 Points (82%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 20.46     avg: 22.6     median: 22.6 (29%)     max: 24.8 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 2.6     avg: 2.8     median: 2.8 (69%)     max: 2.97 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 5996     avg: 6669     median: 6669 (40%)     max: 7342 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 36812     avg: 38490     median: 38489.5 (28%)     max: 40167 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (64bit)
min: 59874     avg: 63534     median: 63533.5 (44%)     max: 67193 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (64bit)
min: 11172     avg: 12089     median: 12089 (15%)     max: 13006 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
87.1 s (1%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
3.5 s (1%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 1024m *
565 s (2%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 32m *
17.8 s (9%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
min: 5629     avg: 5723     median: 5723 (9%)     max: 5817 Points
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 50087     avg: 55687     median: 55145 (32%)     max: 62156 MIPS
54954 MIPS (32%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 4657     avg: 5816     median: 5952 (71%)     max: 6408 MIPS
6465 MIPS (77%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
min: 105.52     avg: 108.8     median: 108.8 (38%)     max: 112.1 fps
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
min: 232     avg: 237.3     median: 237.3 (55%)     max: 242.64 fps
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 14.4     avg: 15.7     median: 15.2 (27%)     max: 18.6 fps
16.7 fps (29%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
min: 0.953     avg: 1     median: 1 (0%)     max: 1 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
min: 1.5     avg: 1.6     median: 1.6 (27%)     max: 1.6 GB/s
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
min: 6.1     avg: 8.5     median: 8.5 (22%)     max: 10.8 GB/s
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 332     avg: 418.5     median: 421 (5%)     max: 503 Seconds
393 Seconds (5%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 208     avg: 250.7     median: 259.5 (2%)     max: 270 Seconds
245 Seconds (2%)
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.4559     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (10%)     max: 0.581 sec
0.4 sec (10%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 12402     avg: 12635     median: 12482 (27%)     max: 13021 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 7.238     avg: 8.3     median: 8.3 (2%)     max: 9.397 s
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
min: 18.168     avg: 20.9     median: 20.9 (1%)     max: 23.633 s
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 626.26     avg: 706     median: 705.7 (3%)     max: 785.226 s
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
min: 60726     avg: 63048     median: 63563 (56%)     max: 64340 Points
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 12375     avg: 16776     median: 16474 (45%)     max: 19923 Points
17294 Points (47%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
min: 64410     avg: 71391     median: 72497 (59%)     max: 76886 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
min: 64515     avg: 70689     median: 72428 (59%)     max: 75123 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 65423     avg: 72363     median: 74802 (63%)     max: 76863 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 9655     avg: 15027     median: 15932.5 (40%)     max: 17714 Points
13652 Points (35%)
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 17823     avg: 21701     median: 21733 (39%)     max: 25050 Points
21442 Points (38%)
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 6548     avg: 8147     median: 8030 (34%)     max: 9501 Points
7659 Points (32%)
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Single-Core
min: 1982     avg: 2367     median: 2394 (73%)     max: 2562 Points
2620 Points (80%)
Geekbench 6.2 - Geekbench 6.2 Multi-Core
min: 7310     avg: 9791     median: 10584 (42%)     max: 11489 Points
10936 Points (43%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1355     avg: 1705     median: 1738 (73%)     max: 1933 Points
1941 Points (82%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 7399     avg: 9113     median: 9382 (17%)     max: 10558 Points
9355 Points (17%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1411     avg: 1488     median: 1487.5 (6%)     max: 1564 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 8055     avg: 8417     median: 8417 (27%)     max: 8779 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
6140 Points (61%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 30359     avg: 32401     median: 32400.5 (36%)     max: 34442 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 509     avg: 567     median: 550 (1%)     max: 746 ms
540 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 81820     avg: 82676     median: 82676 (74%)     max: 83532 Points
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
min: 196.4     avg: 225.1     median: 231 (66%)     max: 256 Points
257 Points (74%)
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 188.4     avg: 262.1     median: 262 (55%)     max: 322 Points
316 Points (66%)
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 1256     avg: 1513     median: 1544 (59%)     max: 1804 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 33.1     avg: 45.7     median: 47.2 (8%)     max: 54.7 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 36.2     avg: 42.6     median: 41.4 (8%)     max: 50.4 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 3.38     avg: 8.7     median: 7.2 (5%)     max: 14.9 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 3.99     avg: 7.9     median: 6.9 (8%)     max: 15.1 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
min: 42.1     avg: 48     median: 47.1 (35%)     max: 55.1 Points per Watt

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 7840U → 100% n=23

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 7640HS → 103% n=23

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