AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Athlon Gold 3150U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3580U
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U
► remove from comparisonThe AMD Ryzen 7 3780U,a Microsoft Surface edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.
Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.
The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.
The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.
Performance
While we have not tested a single system powered by the 3780U as of August 2023, it's safe to expect the chip to be about as fast as the Ryzen 7 3700U, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned.
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U
► remove from comparisonThe AMD Athlon Gold 3150U is a mobile processor for thin and light entry level laptops. It is based on the Dali series (Raven Ridge Dual Core) and offers two Zen cores clocked at 2.6 to 3.3 GHz with SMT (four threads at once) and 4 MB L3-Cache. The integrated graphics card is called Radeon RX Vega 3 and offers only 3 CUs (192 Shaders) clocked at up to 1000 MHz.
In Chromebooks, AMD calles the APU AMD Athlon Gold 3150C, but with the exact same specifications (and performance).
Performance
The average 3150U in our database is in the same league as the Core i3-10110U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. In other words, this is an entry-level chip, as of mid 2022. While not slow by any means, it is anything but fast, either.
Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.
Power consumption
The Athlon has a default TDP, also known as the long-term power limit, of 15 W that laptop makers are free to change to anything between 12 W and 25 W with clock speeds and performance changing accordingly as a result. Most will go for a higher value to reach higher performance levels. Either way, an active cooling solution will be needed to dissipate the heat.
The AMD 3150U is built with a 14 nm manufacturing process resulting in low, as of early 2023, energy efficiency.
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U
► remove from comparisonThe AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.
The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.
The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.
Performance
The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.
Power consumption
This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.
The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.
Model | AMD Ryzen 7 3780U | AMD Athlon Gold 3150U | AMD Ryzen 5 3580U | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Series | AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) | AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) | AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Codename | Picasso-U (Zen+) | Dali (Zen) | Picasso-U (Zen+) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+) |
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Clock | 2300 - 4000 MHz | 2400 - 3300 MHz | 2100 - 3700 MHz | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
L1 Cache | 384 KB | 192 KB | 384 KB | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
L2 Cache | 2 MB | 1 MB | 2 MB | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
L3 Cache | 4 MB | 4 MB | 4 MB | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Cores / Threads | 4 / 8 | 2 / 4 | 4 / 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
TDP | 15 Watt | 15 Watt | 15 Watt | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Transistors | 4500 Million | 4500 Million | 4500 Million | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Technology | 12 nm | 14 nm | 12 nm | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
max. Temp. | 105 °C | 95 °C | 105 °C | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Socket | FP5 | FP5 | FP5 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Features | DDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA | DDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SME | DDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
iGPU | AMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz) | AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1000 MHz) | AMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Architecture | x86 | x86 | x86 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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Manufacturer | www.amd.com | www.amd.com | www.amd.com |