AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX (24 Core, 48 threads) Desktop CPU Review
AMD Ryzen Threadripper with up to 32 cores
AMD achieved a huge leap in performance by moving to its ZEN architecture, upon which it has further improved with its ZEN+ architecture. The company has introduced four new Threadripper APUs this year, which vary from 12 to 32 cores. The high core count makes the APUs particularly suitable for those who use many applications simultaneously, which is often the case with streamers. We have already reviewed the Ryzen Threadripper 2950X, which also benefits from the new ZEN+ architecture and is noticeably more powerful than its predecessor, the Threadripper 1950X.
The new Threadripper APUs are targeted at more than just gamers though. AMD markets its two premium chips at “Creators” and “Innovators” according to the company’s marketing, which is reinforced by the WX terminology that could be a shortening of ‘Workstation X’. The two X chips are still aimed at enthusiasts and gamers.
Pricing ranges from US$649 for the Threadripper 2920X to US$1,799 for the 32-core, 64-thread Threadripper 2990WX, with AMD having launched the Threadripper 2970WX for US$1,299. The top model looks overpriced at first glance, but it is much better value for money in our opinion than comparable Intel processors, which are considerably more expensive without being noticeably more powerful.
It should be noted that all Threadripper APUs ship without a cooler. We would recommend an AIO cooler to quickly dissipate waste heat that may otherwise cause the APU to thermal throttle if it were paired with an ineffective cooling solution.
An overview of AMD Ryzen Threadripper APUs
1st generation models | Cores/Threads | Base clock | Turbo clock | TDP | Launch Price |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ryzen Threadripper 1900X | 8/16 | 3.5 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 180 W | US$549 |
Ryzen Threadripper 1920X | 12/24 | 3.5 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 180 W | US$799 |
Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | 16/32 | 3.4 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 180 W | US$999 |
2nd generation models | Cores/Threads | Base clock | Turbo clock | TDP | Launch Price |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Ryzen Threadripper 2920X | 12/24 | 3.5 GHz | 4.3 GHz | 180 W | US$649 |
Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | 16/32 | 3.5 GHz | 4.4 GHz | 180 W | US$899 |
Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | 24/48 | 3.0 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 250 W | US$1,299 |
Ryzen Threadripper 2990WX | 32/64 | 3.0 GHz | 4.2 GHz | 250 W | US$1,799 |
The Test System
AMD provided us with the following hardware for our tests:
- AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX
- ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme (BIOS 1501, Default Settings, XMP 1 for DDR4-3200)
- 2 x G.Skill DIMM 16 GB DDR4-3200 Kit (14-14-14-34)
- Enermax Liqtech TR4 240 (up to 500 W TDP)
We also used the following hardware in our test system:
- XFX AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (Adrenaline 18.11.2 drivers)
- Antec 1,200 W power supply
- SanDisk Ultra II 240 GB
- Samsung Evo 850 500 GB (for games)
- Western Digital 2 TB (for games)
Processor Benchmarks
If you look at AMD’s presentation, of which we have provided screenshots, it becomes clear that the Threadripper 2970WX is superior to the Core i9-7960X. In short, the 2970WX has markedly better multi-core performance than its Intel competitor, but the Core i9-7960X has noticeably better single-core performance. AMD admitted this in its presentation to its credit though.
The Threadripper 2970WX performed extremely well in multi-core processor benchmarks like Cinebench R15, in which the 2970WX dominates the processors in our comparison table. However, its single-core performance is underwhelming. Our test device finished 2% behind the Threadripper 2950X in the single-core portion of Cinebench R15, presumably because of its lower clock speed. Moreover, it finished 19% behind the Intel Core i9-9900K and 10% behind the Intel Core i9-7900X. The Threadripper 2970WX finished just 9% ahead of the Threadripper 1950X too.
So, we would recommend considering what you need from a processor before deciding on the Threadripper 2970WX. The APU will crush the Intel competition and the Threadripper 2950X in programs that are multi-core optimised. However, you would be better off with even a Ryzen 7 2700X if you mainly use single-core applications. Primarily, the Threadripper 2970WX should be used in high-end workstations to get the most from its multi-core potential.
Performance Rating - Percent | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K -1! | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
Intel Core i9-7900X -2! | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X -1! | |
Intel Core i7-8700K -3! | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X -1! |
Cinebench R15 | |
CPU Single 64Bit | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
CPU Multi 64Bit | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
Cinebench R11.5 | |
CPU Single 64Bit | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
CPU Multi 64Bit | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
Blender - v2.79 BMW27 CPU | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX |
wPrime 2.10 | |
32m | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
1024m | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX |
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 | |
Pass 1 | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Pass 2 | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K |
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Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X |
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AES Mean 100MB | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
Twofish Mean 100MB | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
Serpent Mean 100MB | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
Geekbench 4.4 | |
64 Bit Single-Core Score | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
64 Bit Multi-Core Score | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance Physics | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X |
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Cinebench R15 multi-core benchmark loop
We subjected the Threadripper 2970WX to a loop of the Cinebench R15 multi-core benchmark to determine its behaviour under sustained load. We recorded an average power consumption of 192.3 W during the looped benchmark, while the APU maintained a consistent 3.15 GHz clock speed. Moreover, the core temperatures peaked at only 60 °C thanks to the AIO and its 240 mm radiator. Our test APU averaged 4,283 points in Cinebench R15, a score from which it only varied by 60 points throughout the entire benchmark loop. Overall, the Threadripper 2970WX can easily maintain its peak performance when paired with an appropriate AIO.
AMD Threadripper 2970WX Cinebench R15 multi-core benchmark loop performance
Game Performance
One area in which the Threadripper 2970WX struggles is games, which typically benefit from higher single-core performance. Unfortunately, the APU is at a big disadvantage compared to its higher-clocked counterparts. While the ZEN+ architecture has made improvements in many areas, it offers few benefits in this scenario.
The above paragraph may read negatively, but the Threadripper 2970WX is still suitable for heavy gaming. However, it won't be breaking any FPS records and is simply worse value for money than a Ryzen 5 2600X or Ryzen 7 2700X, which both achieve around 11%-13% higher FPS with the same GPU. It is worth keeping in mind that these values are averages and the difference among the three APUs varies from game to game.
In AMD’s defence, the company has designed its Threadripper WX APUs for heavy multi-core work and not for gaming. You could enable gaming mode in AMD Ryzen Master, but switching this setting on provides better performance at the cost of limiting the APU to using just six cores and 12 threads. Please bear in mind that you must restart your system to activate or deactivate gaming mode once you have made changes within Ryzen Master. We hope that AMD can change this as it is not user-friendly at present.
Performance Rating - Percent | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 -37! | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 -3! | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal -41! | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 -17! | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 -14! | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) -58! | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
BioShock Infinite | |
1280x720 Very Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1366x768 Medium Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1920x1080 Ultra Preset, DX11 (DDOF) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Rise of the Tomb Raider | |
1024x768 Lowest Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1366x768 Medium Preset AF:2x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
3840x2160 High Preset AA:FX AF:4x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Battlefield 1 | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1366x768 Medium Preset AA:FX | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
3840x2160 High Preset AA:T | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Battlefield 4 | |
1024x768 Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1366x768 Medium Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Preset | |
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Assassin´s Creed Origins | |
1280x720 Very Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 Ultra High Preset | |
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Final Fantasy XV Benchmark | |
1280x720 Lite Quality | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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1920x1080 Standard Quality | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Quality | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Deus Ex Mankind Divided | |
1280x720 Low Preset AF:1x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1366x768 Medium Preset AF:2x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Preset AF:4x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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Far Cry Primal | |
1920x1080 Medium Preset AA:SM | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Preset AA:SM | |
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For Honor | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
3840x2160 High Preset AA:T AF:8x | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Ghost Recon Wildlands | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 Very High Preset AA:T AF:8x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Kingdom Come: Deliverance | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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1920x1080 Medium Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 Ultra High Preset | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
The Division | |
1280x720 Low Preset AF:1x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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1366x768 Medium Preset AF:4x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Preset AF:8x | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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The Witcher 3 | |
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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3840x2160 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off) | |
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Watch Dogs 2 | |
1280x720 Low Preset | |
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3840x2160 Ultra High Preset AA:T AF:16x | |
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Far Cry 5 | |
1280x720 Low Preset AA:T | |
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NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
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1920x1080 Medium Preset AA:T | |
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The Crew 2 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (27881 - 31989, n=14) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
Average of class (-1 - 116361, n=5192) |
3DMark | |
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (60794 - 156190, n=16) | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average of class (145 - 380191, n=4002) | |
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
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AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (19234 - 23194, n=16) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average of class (90 - 88564, n=4385) | |
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics | |
NVIDIA Titan X Pascal | |
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 Ti (Desktop) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (6530 - 7284, n=16) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average of class (76 - 37809, n=2485) |
Unigine Heaven 4.0 | |
Extreme Preset OpenGL | |
Average of class (1.2 - 472, n=471) | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (82.8 - 89.6, n=7) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Extreme Preset DX11 | |
Average of class (1.2 - 493, n=650) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (101.9 - 108.5, n=7) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
Unigine Valley 1.0 | |
1920x1080 Extreme HD Preset OpenGL AA:x8 | |
Average of class (1.1 - 332, n=475) | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (56.1 - 59.3, n=7) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
1920x1080 Extreme HD DirectX AA:x8 | |
Average of class (1.1 - 324, n=509) | |
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 (74.6 - 81.8, n=7) | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 | |
AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 |
3DMark 03 Standard | 129519 points | |
3DMark 05 Standard | 29455 points | |
3DMark 06 Standard Score | 31783 points | |
3DMark Vantage P Result | 55262 points | |
3DMark 11 Performance | 20440 points | |
3DMark Ice Storm Standard Score | 137997 points | |
3DMark Cloud Gate Standard Score | 34160 points | |
3DMark Fire Strike Score | 15462 points | |
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme Score | 9469 points | |
3DMark Time Spy Score | 6937 points | |
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AMD Threadripper 2970WX + AMD Radeon RX Vega 64
low | med. | high | ultra | 4K | |
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BioShock Infinite (2013) | 276.6 | 219.7 | 214.5 | 154.8 | |
Battlefield 4 (2013) | 197.2 | 195.3 | 196 | 134.9 | 72.2 |
The Witcher 3 (2015) | 240.2 | 182.6 | 135.7 | 78.8 | 47.1 |
Rainbow Six Siege (2015) | 300.3 | 253 | 236.8 | 200.7 | 78.4 |
Rise of the Tomb Raider (2016) | 244.8 | 178.7 | 112.9 | 94.2 | 47.7 |
Far Cry Primal (2016) | 71 | 64 | 59 | 55 | 50 |
The Division (2016) | 204.1 | 165.1 | 115 | 96.7 | 50.5 |
Deus Ex Mankind Divided (2016) | 86.7 | 95 | 86.5 | 51.5 | 34.6 |
Battlefield 1 (2016) | 158.8 | 148.1 | 137.1 | 125.7 | 61.3 |
Watch Dogs 2 (2016) | 93.6 | 84.5 | 77.7 | 65.5 | 37.8 |
For Honor (2017) | 215.4 | 164.4 | 158.8 | 125.7 | 50.4 |
Ghost Recon Wildlands (2017) | 94.8 | 71.2 | 70 | 49.8 | 38.4 |
F1 2017 (2017) | 209 | 176 | 141 | 121 | 56 |
Assassin´s Creed Origins (2017) | 58 | 54 | 54 | 49 | 34 |
Call of Duty WWII (2017) | 149.6 | 152.6 | 104.3 | 102.1 | 64.1 |
Need for Speed Payback (2017) | 108.1 | 101.4 | 97.8 | 97 | 50.7 |
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark (2018) | 109.3 | 86.6 | 57.5 | 26.9 | |
Kingdom Come: Deliverance (2018) | 122.4 | 103.2 | 83.9 | 64.9 | 24.8 |
Far Cry 5 (2018) | 71 | 66 | 63 | 60 | 44 |
The Crew 2 (2018) | 60 | 60 | 60 | 60 | 32.1 |
Monster Hunter World (2018) | 105.4 | 105.9 | 98.7 | 78.7 | 27.2 |
F1 2018 (2018) | 212 | 181 | 149 | 118 | 52 |
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (2018) | 127 | 102 | 93 | 84 | 30 |
Forza Horizon 4 (2018) | 155 | 119 | 118 | 117 | 62 |
Assassin´s Creed Odyssey (2018) | 57 | 53 | 49 | 42 | 28 |
Hitman 2 (2018) | 74.6 | 71 | 65.2 | 64 | 44 |
Battlefield V (2018) | 175.9 | 145.8 | 138.3 | 129.6 | 58 |
Application Performance
The Threadripper 2970WX finished last in our PCMark 10 comparison table, which suggests that the benchmark is not optimised for multi-core processors. We did not notice such performance restrictions in daily use though, with our test system running smoothly and stably throughout testing. Pairing the APU with an NVMe SSD would further improve its PCMark benchmark scores.
AMD has also announced as part of the release of its 2nd-generation Threadripper APUs that its StoreMI tool will come free of charge with all X399 motherboards. StoreMI combines the advantages of SSDs and HDDs into one by generating a virtual drive from two disks and 2 GB RAM. The tool then analyses user behaviour and stores frequently used applications on the faster virtual drive.
PCMark 10 - Score | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX |
PCMark 8 | |
Work Score Accelerated v2 | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Creative Score Accelerated v2 | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
Home Score Accelerated v2 | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
Intel Core i9-7900X | |
Intel Core i7-8700K | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX |
PCMark 7 Score | 7892 points | |
PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2 | 3992 points | |
PCMark 8 Creative Score Accelerated v2 | 7297 points | |
PCMark 8 Work Score Accelerated v2 | 4534 points | |
PCMark 10 Score | 5481 points | |
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Emissions
Cooling
AMD provided us with an AIO liquid-cooling system to effectively cool the Threadripper 2970WX throughout our tests. The AIO is the Enermax Liqtech TR4 240, which is rated up to 500 W. The two fans are audible under load on stock settings, but the fan curve is freely configurable in the BIOS should you wish to change it. Please note that we kept all settings at stock for our tests, except for when we overclocked the APU. We will cover overclocking in detail at the end of this article.
The Liqtech TR4 240 is easy to install and leaves the first PCIe slot free, unlike the Wraith Ripper that we used for our Threadripper 2950X review. Likewise, the Liqtech TR4 240 does not obstruct the RAM slots either. We would always recommend using an AIO cooler if you have space within your case as they cool processors more effectively than air coolers do.
Temperature
The Threadripper 2970WX completed a Prime95 stress test without any issues. Core temperatures reached a maximum of 59.4 °C during the one-hour stress test, which is remarkable since the APU maintained a 3.6 GHz clock speed across 24 cores. We should point out that the motherboard offsets the APU temperature by 27 °C to make the cooling system work more effectively. The downside of this is that the fans spin up quickly when the APU is pushed hard, which we found annoying by the end of our tests.
We should also note that the Threadripper 2970WX’s 250 W TDP causes the VRMs to get significantly hotter than when they are working with a processor that has a 180 W TDP. Fortunately, some OEMs offer retrofit kits to combat the increased heat dissipation from the VRMs. The ASUS ROG Zenith Extreme is one such example and has an additional heatsink designed to specifically cool the VRMs around its first PCIe slot. We would recommend equipping the board with the additional heatsink when it is paired with any 250 W processor. The VRMs on our test motherboard averaged 63 ° C during our load tests, although they reached a maximum of 74 °C after about 11.5 minutes of testing. Please note that we measured these temperatures on an open system, so we would expect the VRMs to get even hotter in a closed system.
Temperatures - CPU Temperature Prime95 | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX |
Power Consumption
The Threadripper 2970WX has a 250 W TDP as mentioned in previous sections. By comparison, the Threadripper 1950X and the Threadripper 2950X both have 180 W TDPs. The Threadripper 2970WX is therefore not an economical processor at first glance, but it powers considerably more cores.
Nevertheless, an X399 platform is not the basis for an energy-efficient system. Our test system consumes around 96 W at idle, which is higher than any of our other test systems in our comparison table. Power consumption rose to an average of 378 W during a Cinebench R15 multi-core looped benchmark, while we recorded an average consumption of 441 W during a stress test. Our test device system consumed an eye-watering 475 W while playing The Witcher 3 at 1080p on ultra graphics; the CPU was not even being pushed to its limits either, so our test system could conceivably consume more power in CPU-heavy games. Please note that our power consumption values do not include an external monitor.
Power Consumption | |
Cinebench R15 Multi (external Monitor) | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
Intel Core i9-7900X (Idle: 63.4 W) | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Idle: 74.3 W) | |
Intel Core i9-9900K | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
1920x1080 The Witcher 3 ultra (external Monitor) | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX | |
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X | |
AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2950X | |
AMD Ryzen 7 2700X (Idle: 74.3 W) | |
Intel Core i9-7900X (99 fps, Idle: 63.4 W) | |
Intel Core i9-9900K (80 fps) |
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Overclocking
The Threadripper 2970WX delivers an excellent performance on stock settings, but we could squeeze more power from it by overclocking its clock speed. The APU has an unlocked multiplier, which allowed us to overclock the APU to 4.1 GHz on all cores. We also increased the voltage to 1.44 V. The APU could run at 4.2 GHz on all cores too, but our test system crashed shortly after starting Cinebench R15. Hence, we kept the clock speed at 4.1 GHz and reran Cinebench R15, in which it scored an impressive 5,079 points. The higher score represents around a 15% performance uplift, although the Threadripper 2970WX scored lower in the single-core benchmark because of its 100 MHz lower maximum clock speed.
However, the overclock caused power consumption to rise to an average of 699 W during a Cinebench R15 multi-core benchmark, which is 321 W higher than what our test system achieved at stock settings. Moreover, the eye-wateringly high power consumption corresponded with a spike in temperatures. Core temperatures reached a maximum of 85.9 °C during a Prime95 stress test with the APU running at 4.1 GHz on all cores, while the VRMs heated up to approximately 121 °C after just 15 minutes stress-testing. The latter is too high for continuous use, so we stopped the stress test shortly after noticing the VRMs’ extremely high temperatures. The excess heat also caused the APU to throttle to 500 MHz to cool itself, which somewhat negates the improved performance that overclocking the APU brought.
Overall, we overclocked the APU to see its maximum potential, but we would not recommend overclocking the Threadripper 2970WX based on our tests. The cons definitively outweigh the pros of doing so.
Verdict
The AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX is undoubtedly a powerful APU. It is currently the second-fastest processor in AMD’s portfolio behind the Threadripper 2990WX. Moreover, the Threadripper 2970WX makes all but the 2990WX look outdated when applications can take advantage of its 24 cores and 48 threads. Excellent multi-core performance comes at the cost of heightened power consumption, which prevents the Threadripper 2970WX from being used in a power-efficient system.
A big advantage of the Threadripper range is its backwards compatibility. So far, all X399 motherboards support the new Threadripper APUs courtesy of a BIOS update. However, we would recommend investigating whether your motherboard manufacturer sells retrofittable VRM heatsinks, as the Threadripper 2970WX and 2990WX carry a 250 W TDP, which will cause VRMs to heat up considerably more than they would when paired with a 180 W TDP APU.
The 2nd-generation Threadripper APUs are the first processors to bring up to 32 cores and 64 threads to home users. The Threadripper 2970WX is a workstation APU that would make a great purchase for someone who frequently uses multi-core optimised applications. However, we would suggest looking elsewhere if you are looking for mainly a gaming processor, as its single-core performance does not justify its almost US$1,300 price tag.
The purpose of the Threadripper 2970WX is primarily as a workstation APU. Benchmark results reflect this use case, with the APU coming into its own in multi-core benchmarks. Almost US$1,300 for comparatively poor single-core performance may seem steep to some people, but the Threadripper 2970WX is considerably cheaper than its Intel counterparts and offers strikingly better multi-core performance. In short, the hefty price tag is worth it in our opinion.
Video or photo-editors will appreciate the power of the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX. Similarly, the APU could comfortably run multiple virtual machines at once, which makes the Threadripper 2970WX a great candidate as a server processor. Overall, the APU is a multi-core beast, but its lacklustre single-core performance and high launch price prevent it from being an all-rounder; it is best used as a workstation or server processor where it can make use of its high core and thread count.