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Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 vs Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 vs Intel Core 2 Duo T5870

Intel Core 2 Duo T5500

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The Intel Core 2 Duo T5550 is an entry-level dual core processor for laptops. It is based on the Merom-2M core and therefore manufactured in 65nm. It does not support Virtualization functions VT-x of the Merom core and offers only a low clock speed and 2MB level 2 cache.

Intel Core 2 Duo T7500

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The Core 2 Duo T7500 is a middle class dual core CPU for laptops. It is based on the Merom core and features 4MB Level 2 cache.

At the time of announcement, the T7500 was a very fast CPU and had enough performance for games and applications in 2008. In 2009, the Core 2 Duo T7500 performed similar to a middle class Core 2 Duo P7570 or Turion II Ultra M640/M660.

Modern Penryn based Core  2 Duo are a bit faster per MHz (with similar Cache sizes) and are more power efficient.

Intel Core 2 Duo T5870

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The Intel Core 2 Duo T5870 is an entry level dual core processor based on the old Merom core. It features a reduced level 2 cache to 2 MB and no virtualization functions. Furthermore, the clock rate of 2 GHz is relatively slow.

ModelIntel Core 2 Duo T5500Intel Core 2 Duo T7500Intel Core 2 Duo T5870
SeriesIntel Core 2 DuoIntel Core 2 DuoIntel Core 2 Duo
CodenameMeromMeromMerom
Series: Core 2 Duo Merom
Intel Core 2 Duo T78002.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T77002.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T76002.33 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T75002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T74002.16 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T59002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T73002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58502.1 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58702 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T57502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T71001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T56001.83 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T55501.83 GHz2 / 2
» Intel Core 2 Duo T55001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T53001.73 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T52001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L73001.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L71001.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T78002.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T77002.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T76002.33 GHz2 / 2
» Intel Core 2 Duo T75002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T74002.16 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T59002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T73002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58502.1 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58702 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T57502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T71001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T56001.83 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T55501.83 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T55001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T53001.73 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T52001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L73001.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L71001.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T78002.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T77002.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T76002.33 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T75002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T74002.16 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T59002.2 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T73002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58502.1 GHz2 / 2
» Intel Core 2 Duo T58702 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T58002 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T72502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T57502 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP77001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T71001.8 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T56001.83 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T55501.83 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T55001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T53001.73 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo SP75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo T52001.66 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L75001.6 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L73001.4 GHz2 / 2
Intel Core 2 Duo L71001.2 GHz2 / 2
Clock1660 MHz2200 MHz2000 MHz
FSB667800800
L2 Cache2 MB4 MB2 MB
Cores / Threads2 / 22 / 22 / 2
TDP34 Watt35 Watt34 Watt
Transistors291 Million291 Million291 Million
65 nm1.0375-1.3V65 nm1.075 - 1.250V65 nm1.075V-1.175V
Die Size143 mm2143 mm2143 mm2
max. Temp.100 °C100 °C100 °C
SocketPBGA479, PPGA478PBGA479, PPGA478
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
ManufacturerIntel Core 2 Duo T5500Intel Core 2 Duo T7500Intel Core 2 Duo T5870
L1 Cache128 KB
FeaturesVirtualization (VT-x), Intel 64, Idle States, Enhanced Speedstep, Execute Disable BitIntel 64, Enhanced Speedstep, Execute Disable Bit
$234 U.S.

Benchmarks

Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
100%
1 T7500 +
min: 0.93     avg: 1     median: 1 (2%)     max: 1.12 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 1656     avg: 1717     median: 1660 (15%)     max: 1836 Points
min: 2190     avg: 2304     median: 2307.5 (21%)     max: 2389 Points
min: 1875     avg: 2092     median: 2088.5 (19%)     max: 2316 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 3026     avg: 3190     median: 3069 (4%)     max: 3476 Points
min: 4182     avg: 4284     median: 4272.5 (6%)     max: 4473 Points
min: 3480     avg: 3855     median: 3809.5 (5%)     max: 4319 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
100%
1 T7500 +
37.5 s (8%)
95%
1 T5870 +
min: 42.47     avg: 60     median: 60 (12%)     max: 77.6 s
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
100%
1 T5870 +
min: 1355     avg: 1916     median: 1915.5 (23%)     max: 2476 s
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 1339     avg: 1387     median: 1392 (3%)     max: 1426 Points
min: 1634     avg: 1879     median: 1906 (4%)     max: 1940 Points
min: 1560     avg: 1606     median: 1628 (3%)     max: 1630 Points
Sysmark 2004SE - Sysmark 2004SE Score
100%
1 T5500 +
204 Points (78%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 31.34     avg: 32.7     median: 32.7 (7%)     max: 34 s
min: 22     avg: 22.7     median: 23 (5%)     max: 23 s
min: 26.78     avg: 27.4     median: 27 (6%)     max: 28.27 s
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
83 s (4%)
min: 54     avg: 54.7     median: 54.7 (2%)     max: 55.3 s
min: 61.8     avg: 63.9     median: 63.9 (3%)     max: 66 s
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
1923 s (9%)
1344 s (6%)
1492 s (7%)
SiSoft Sandra Dhrystone (MIPS) - SiSoft Sandra Dhrystone (MIPS)
min: 15145     avg: 16727     median: 15195 (7%)     max: 19840 MIPS
min: 19950     avg: 20064     median: 20063.5 (10%)     max: 20177 MIPS
16620 MIPS (8%)
SiSoft Sandra Whetstone (MFLOPS) - SiSoft Sandra Whetstone (MFLOPS)
min: 7386     avg: 9338     median: 10261 (8%)     max: 10367 MFLOPS
min: 13944     avg: 13945     median: 13945 (11%)     max: 13946 MFLOPS
12000 MFLOPS (9%)
Cinebench 9 Score - Cinebench 9 Score
100%
1 T5500 +
532 Points (36%)
PCMark 04 - PCMark 04 - Standard
100%
1 T5500 +
min: 4776     avg: 5083     median: 4898 (66%)     max: 5787 Points
122%
1 T7500 +
5984 Points (80%)
PCMark 05 - PCMark 05 - Standard
min: 2916     avg: 3353     median: 3323 (21%)     max: 3992 Points
min: 2095     avg: 4545     median: 4629 (29%)     max: 5785 Points
min: 3903     avg: 3926     median: 3925.5 (25%)     max: 3948 Points
Windows Vista Experience Index - Windows Vista Leistungsindex - Prozessor
100%
1 T7500 +
5.1 Points (73%)
Windows 7 Experience Index - Win7 CPU
100%
1 T5870 +
4.9 Points (63%)

Average Benchmarks Intel Core 2 Duo T5500 → 100% n=9

Average Benchmarks Intel Core 2 Duo T7500 → 125% n=9

Average Benchmarks Intel Core 2 Duo T5870 → 113% n=9

- Range of benchmark values for this graphics card
- Average benchmark values for this graphics card
* Smaller numbers mean a higher performance
1 This benchmark is not used for the average calculation

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