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AMD Ryzen 7 7840U vs AMD Ryzen 7 8840U

AMD Ryzen 7 7840U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 7840U

The Ryzen 7 7840U is a powerful laptop processor (APU) of the Phoenix product family. Its eight Zen 4 cores run at 3.3 GHz to 5.1 GHz and are SMT-enabled for a total of 16 processing threads. The great Radeon 780M is responsible for 3D processing and similar duties; the 7840U also features Ryzen AI which is AMD's answer to Intel's GNA and DL Boost.

Architecture & Features

Phoenix family chips are powered by the Zen 4 architecture, much like Dragon Range family chips are. The latter however lacks hardware AI workload acceleration capabilities that Phoenix has.

More importantly, Zen 4 introduces some rather solid AVX512 support (which Zen 3 chips did not have) and, thanks to a plethora of other improvements including larger caches/registers/buffers across the board, is set to bring a double-digit IPC improvement.

Elsewhere, the 7840U has 16 MB of L3 cache and support for super-fast DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5x-7500 RAM. The chip is compatible with USB 4 and thus with Thunderbolt. It comes with 20 PCIe 4 lanes for NVMe SSD speeds of up to 7.8 GB/s.

Systems built around the 7840U are designed to run 64-bit Windows 11, 64-bit Windows 10, or Linux. Please note that this processor is not overclockable and neither is it user-replaceable. It gets soldered down for good instead (FP7, FP7r2, FP8 socket interfaces).

Performance

The average 7840U in our extensive database is about as fast as the Core i7-12650H, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This means the Ryzen 7 APU packs quite a wallop, as of mid 2023.

Thanks to its decent cooling solution and a long-term CPU power limit of 35 W, the Framework Laptop 13.5 is among the fastest systems powered by the 7840U that we know of. It can be about 30% faster than the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of December 2023.

Graphics

The Radeon 780M has 12 CUs (768 shaders) purring away at up to 2,700 MHz. This is exactly the right iGPU for people looking for a bit more horsepower than what Intel's aging Xe options can provide. The Radeon will let you use up to 4 monitors with resolutions as high as SUHD 4320p and it will also HW-decode and HW-encode the most widely used video codecs (including AV1, HEVC and AVC) without breaking a sweat. In terms of gaming, the thing is good enough for 1080p and medium-to-low settings, as of late 2023.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are, how competent the cooling solution of your system is, how fast the RAM of your system is (there is no dedicated VRAM here).

Power consumption

This Ryzen 7 series chip has a long-term power limit (default TDP) of 28 W. Laptop makers are free to change that value significantly, with values as low as 15 W and as high as 30 W greenlighted by AMD. Either way, an active cooling solution is a must for any system powered by this chip.

The 7840U is built with TSMC's 4 nm process for high, as of late 2023, energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 7 8840U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 8840U

The Ryzen 7 8840U is a powerful laptop processor (APU) of the Hawk Point family. This isn't an entirely new APU; instead, the R7 8840U is a rebadged R7 7840U with higher clock speeds on the Ryzen AI NPU. Its eight Zen 4 cores run at 3.3 GHz to 5.1 GHz and are SMT-enabled for a total of 16 processing threads. The great Radeon 780M iGPU is responsible for 3D processing and similar duties.

Architecture & Features

Hawk Point family chips are powered by the Zen 4 architecture, much like Phoenix and Dragon Range family chips are. That's not to say there is no difference between the three. With Hawk Point, AMD is betting big on generative AI; these chips are promised to deliver an up to 40% increase in generative AI performance over 7040 series APUs making apps like DaVinci Resolve and Adobe Photoshop more powerful than ever before.

Unlike Zen 3, Zen 4 features AVX512 support and, thanks to a plethora of other improvements including larger caches/registers/buffers across the board, is slated to deliver a double-digit IPC improvement over the former.

Elsewhere, the 8840U has 16 MB of L3 cache and support for super-fast DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5x-7500 RAM. The chip is compatible with USB 4 and thus with Thunderbolt. It comes with 20 PCIe 4 lanes, giving fast NVMe SSD up to 7.8 GB/s of throughput.

Systems built around the 8840U are designed to run 64-bit Windows 11, 64-bit Windows 10, or Linux. Please note that this processor is not overclockable and neither is it user-replaceable. It gets soldered to the motherboard for good instead (FP7, FP7r2, FP8 socket interfaces).

Performance

Since the 8840U is a 7840U in disguise, it's safe to expect it to be about as fast as the Core i7-12650H, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned. This means the chip is fast enough to make 99% of consumers happy, as of December 2023.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.

Graphics

The Radeon 780M has 12 CUs (768 shaders) purring away at up to 2,700 MHz. This is exactly the right iGPU for people looking for a bit more horsepower than what Intel's aging Xe options can provide. The Radeon will let you use up to 4 monitors with resolutions as high as SUHD 4320p and it will also HW-decode and HW-encode the most widely used video codecs (including AV1, HEVC and AVC) without breaking a sweat. In terms of gaming, the thing is good enough for 1080p and medium-to-low settings, as of late 2023.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are, how competent the cooling solution of your system is, how fast the RAM of your system is (there is no dedicated VRAM here).

Power consumption

This Ryzen 7 series chip has a long-term power limit (default TDP) of 28 W. Laptop makers are free to change that value significantly, with values as low as 15 W and as high as 30 W greenlighted by AMD. Either way, an active cooling solution is a must for any system powered by this chip.

The 8840U is built with TSMC's 4 nm process for high, as of late 2023, energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 7840UAMD Ryzen 7 8840U
CodenamePhoenix-U (Zen 4)Hawk Point-U (Zen 4)
SeriesAMD Phoenix (Zen 4)AMD Hawk Point (Zen 4/4c)
Series: Hawk Point (Zen 4/4c) Hawk Point-U (Zen 4)
AMD Ryzen 7 7840U « 3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 7640U compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 250 compare3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 250 compare3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 8840U « 3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen Z2 compare3.3 - 5.1 GHz8 / 16 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 230 compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 230 compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 8640U compare3.5 - 4.9 GHz6 / 12 cores16 MB L3
Clock3300 - 5100 MHz3300 - 5100 MHz
L1 Cache512 KB512 KB
L2 Cache8 MB8 MB
L3 Cache16 MB16 MB
Cores / Threads8 / 16
8 x 5.1 GHz AMD Zen 4
8 / 16
8 x 5.1 GHz AMD Zen 4
TDP28 Watt28 Watt
Technology4 nm4 nm
Die Size178 mm2178 mm2
max. Temp.100 °C100 °C
SocketFP7/FP7r2/FP8FP7/FP7r2/FP8
FeaturesDDR5-5600/LPDDR5x-7500 RAM, PCIe 4, Ryzen AI, AES, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX (+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3DDR5-5600/LPDDR5x-7500 RAM, PCIe 4, Ryzen AI, AES, AVX, AVX2, AVX512, FMA3, MMX (+), SHA, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, SSSE3
iGPUAMD Radeon 780M ( - 2700 MHz)AMD Radeon 780M ( - 2700 MHz)
Architecturex86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R7 7840U
37.9 pt (63%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R7 8840U
38 pt (63%)
Cinebench 2024 - Cinebench 2024 CPU Single Core
min: 81     avg: 89.7     median: 91 (51%)     max: 97 Points
98 Points (55%)
Cinebench 2024 - Cinebench 2024 CPU Multi Core
min: 609     avg: 702     median: 730 (14%)     max: 768 Points
748 Points (14%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 11739     avg: 12884     median: 12719 (12%)     max: 15074 Points
min: 10162     avg: 12053     median: 12455.5 (12%)     max: 13563 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 1373     avg: 1646     median: 1677.5 (71%)     max: 1742 Points
min: 1088     avg: 1605     median: 1704.5 (72%)     max: 1740 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
min: 533     avg: 644     median: 661.5 (73%)     max: 678 Points
min: 427     avg: 611     median: 667.5 (74%)     max: 680 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
min: 4469     avg: 5039     median: 4967.5 (12%)     max: 5917 Points
min: 3987     avg: 4752     median: 4841.5 (12%)     max: 5336 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 1024.7     avg: 1946     median: 1990 (13%)     max: 2439 Points
min: 1539     avg: 1991     median: 1985.5 (13%)     max: 2453 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 217     avg: 256.3     median: 264 (74%)     max: 272 Points
min: 176.6     avg: 245.7     median: 265.5 (75%)     max: 275 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
min: 20.46     avg: 22.6     median: 22.6 (29%)     max: 24.8 Points
24.1 Points (31%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
min: 2.6     avg: 2.8     median: 2.8 (66%)     max: 2.97 Points
3.2 Points (76%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 5996     avg: 6669     median: 6669 (40%)     max: 7342 Points
7381 Points (45%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 36812     avg: 38490     median: 38489.5 (28%)     max: 40167 Points
41306 Points (30%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (64bit)
min: 59874     avg: 63534     median: 63533.5 (41%)     max: 67193 Points
71128 Points (45%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (64bit)
min: 11172     avg: 12089     median: 12089 (15%)     max: 13006 Points
13618 Points (17%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
87.1 s (1%)
84.3 s (1%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
3.5 s (1%)
3.3 s (1%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 1024m *
565 s (2%)
wPrime 1.55 - wPrime 1.55 32m *
17.8 s (9%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
min: 5629     avg: 5723     median: 5723 (9%)     max: 5817 Points
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multi Thread 4 runs
min: 50087     avg: 55687     median: 55145 (32%)     max: 62156 MIPS
min: 47579     avg: 53787     median: 54009 (31%)     max: 59549 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 4657     avg: 5816     median: 5952 (70%)     max: 6408 MIPS
min: 4168     avg: 5656     median: 5992.5 (71%)     max: 6469 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
min: 105.52     avg: 108.8     median: 108.8 (36%)     max: 112.1 fps
118.7 fps (40%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
min: 232     avg: 237.3     median: 237.3 (55%)     max: 242.64 fps
267 fps (62%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 14.4     avg: 15.7     median: 15.2 (27%)     max: 18.6 fps
min: 12.5     avg: 15.1     median: 15.7 (28%)     max: 16.5 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
min: 0.953     avg: 1     median: 1 (29%)     max: 1 GB/s
1.1 GB/s (32%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
min: 1.5     avg: 1.6     median: 1.6 (27%)     max: 1.6 GB/s
1.7 GB/s (29%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
min: 6.1     avg: 8.5     median: 8.5 (22%)     max: 10.8 GB/s
11.5 GB/s (30%)
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 332     avg: 418.5     median: 421 (5%)     max: 503 Seconds
min: 383     avg: 431.3     median: 412.5 (5%)     max: 517 Seconds
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 208     avg: 250.7     median: 259.5 (2%)     max: 270 Seconds
min: 239     avg: 270.8     median: 264.5 (2%)     max: 315 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.4559     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (10%)     max: 0.581 sec
min: 0.4514     avg: 0.5     median: 0.5 (10%)     max: 0.678 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 12402     avg: 12635     median: 12482 (27%)     max: 13021 Points
min: 13841     avg: 14195     median: 14245 (30%)     max: 14498 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 7.238     avg: 8.3     median: 8.3 (2%)     max: 9.397 s
8.8 s (2%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
min: 18.168     avg: 20.9     median: 20.9 (1%)     max: 23.633 s
21.3 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 626.26     avg: 706     median: 705.7 (3%)     max: 785.226 s
754 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
min: 60726     avg: 63048     median: 63563 (49%)     max: 64340 Points
min: 67701     avg: 68184     median: 68141 (52%)     max: 68709 Points
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 12375     avg: 16776     median: 16474 (42%)     max: 19923 Points
min: 13875     avg: 16276     median: 16405.5 (41%)     max: 18587 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
min: 64410     avg: 71391     median: 72497 (59%)     max: 76886 Points
min: 51143     avg: 60560     median: 51161 (42%)     max: 79375 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
min: 64515     avg: 70689     median: 72428 (59%)     max: 75123 Points
min: 51152     avg: 61249     median: 51313 (42%)     max: 81282 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 65423     avg: 72363     median: 74802 (62%)     max: 76863 Points
min: 78859     avg: 83002     median: 84626 (70%)     max: 85520 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 9655     avg: 15204     median: 16264 (41%)     max: 17714 Points
min: 10973     avg: 14571     median: 15099 (38%)     max: 17112 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 17823     avg: 21641     median: 21584 (38%)     max: 25050 Points
min: 17856     avg: 20638     median: 20556 (37%)     max: 23864 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 6548     avg: 8155     median: 8138.5 (34%)     max: 9501 Points
min: 6208     avg: 8001     median: 8363 (35%)     max: 9004 Points
Geekbench 6.3 - Geekbench 6.3 Single-Core
min: 1982     avg: 2367     median: 2394 (61%)     max: 2562 Points
min: 1654     avg: 2332     median: 2532.5 (64%)     max: 2607 Points
Geekbench 6.3 - Geekbench 6.3 Multi-Core
min: 7310     avg: 9791     median: 10584 (41%)     max: 11489 Points
min: 9609     avg: 10782     median: 10427.5 (40%)     max: 12664 Points
Geekbench 6.0 - Geekbench 6.0 Single-Core
min: 1925     avg: 2150     median: 2149.5 (68%)     max: 2374 Points
2384 Points (76%)
Geekbench 6.0 - Geekbench 6.0 Multi-Core
min: 9176     avg: 9796     median: 9796 (40%)     max: 10416 Points
10532 Points (43%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.5 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1355     avg: 1705     median: 1738 (68%)     max: 1933 Points
min: 1278     avg: 1747     median: 1886.5 (74%)     max: 1937 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.5 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 7399     avg: 9113     median: 9382 (17%)     max: 10558 Points
min: 8205     avg: 9693     median: 9636 (17%)     max: 11296 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 1411     avg: 1488     median: 1487.5 (6%)     max: 1564 Points
1817 Points (8%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 8055     avg: 8417     median: 8417 (27%)     max: 8779 Points
8056 Points (25%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
6140 Points (61%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 30359     avg: 32401     median: 32400.5 (32%)     max: 34442 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 509     avg: 567     median: 550 (1%)     max: 746 ms
min: 515     avg: 589     median: 531 (1%)     max: 779 ms
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 81820     avg: 82676     median: 82676 (69%)     max: 83532 Points
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
min: 179.4     avg: 216.6     median: 208 (57%)     max: 256 Points
min: 170.4     avg: 222.5     median: 248 (68%)     max: 249 Points
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 188.4     avg: 262.1     median: 262 (47%)     max: 322 Points
min: 216     avg: 282     median: 303 (54%)     max: 306 Points
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 1256     avg: 1498     median: 1533.5 (57%)     max: 1804 Points
min: 1541     avg: 1624     median: 1566 (59%)     max: 1766 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 33.1     avg: 45.7     median: 47.2 (8%)     max: 54.7 Watt
min: 31.5     avg: 40.8     median: 40.8 (7%)     max: 50 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 36.2     avg: 42.6     median: 41.4 (8%)     max: 50.4 Watt
min: 28.2     avg: 41.9     median: 41.9 (8%)     max: 55.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 3.38     avg: 8.6     median: 7.8 (5%)     max: 14.9 Watt
min: 5.47     avg: 9.5     median: 6.2 (4%)     max: 16.9 Watt
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 3.99     avg: 7.7     median: 6.2 (7%)     max: 15.1 Watt
min: 3.93     avg: 11.1     median: 9 (10%)     max: 22.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
min: 42.1     avg: 48     median: 47.1 (35%)     max: 55.1 Points per Watt
54.6 Points per Watt (41%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 7840U → 100% n=51

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 8840U → 104% n=51

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