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Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor

Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor
Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor
An HP facepalm. Of the four laptops we've tested so far with AMD's latest Zen+ CPU, the two HP models perform noticeably slower than the two Lenovo models because of better temperature and clock rate management on the latter systems according to our own findings.

The Zen+ Ryzen 7 3700U is designed to be a minor stopgap before the more significant Zen 2 series for laptops. Thus, performance is only marginally better than the Zen Ryzen 7 2700U much like how the Intel Whiskey Lake-U Core i7-8565U is only marginally better than the Kaby Lake-R Core i7-8550U. To AMD, however, this is perhaps "good enough" as the Ryzen 7 3700U is able to trade blows with the Core i7-8565U quite well in most scenarios.

The key word here is "most" because some laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run much slower than others even when they are all equipped with the same AMD CPU. Having reviewed four different Ryzen 7 3700U laptops thus far, we've discovered that the HP 14 and HP Envy x360 13 run significantly slower than the Lenovo ThinkPad E595 and Lenovo IdeaPad S540. While small differences in performance are expected between OEMs, the differences here are much wider than anticipated at almost 60 percent after accounting for throttling when jumping from the HP 14 to the ThinkPad E595. Our CineBench R15 loop test below illustrates this gap very clearly.

Looking closely at the core clock rates of the HP 14 and ThinkPad E595 reveals the cause of the enormous discrepancy. When stressing the HP with Prime95 and FurMark, clock rates would throttle to the 0.6 GHz to 1.4 GHz range compared to a steady 2.8 GHz on the Lenovo under similar conditions. Lenovo's implementation of the same AMD CPU is far superior at maintaining decent clock rates than both HP systems.

It's important to keep in mind that our comparison is only limited to two HP laptops and two Lenovo laptops. Pricier HP laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U like the EliteBook 735 G6 may fare better than the relatively inexpensive HP 14 or Envy x360 13. Nonetheless, HP isn't doing itself any favors by debuting the Ryzen 7 3700U so poorly on its own devices when we know that AMD's latest processor is capable of much more.

See our reviews on the AMD-powered HP 14, HP Envy x360 13, and Lenovo IdeaPad S540 for more details. Our review on the ThinkPad E595 will be coming soon.

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Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø640 (634.34-662.55)
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø684 (680.39-687.17)
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø440 (425.31-674.59)
HP 14-dk0008ng AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø447 (422.06-536.95)
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i7-8565U: Ø522 (514.22-659.49)
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U
177 Points ∼100%
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (73.1 - 193, n=37)
170 Points ∼96%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
146 Points ∼82%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
144 Points ∼81%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
139 Points ∼79%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
127 Points ∼72%
CPU Multi 64Bit
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
683 (min: 680.39, max: 687.17) Points ∼100%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
676 Points ∼99%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
675 (min: 643.4, max: 674.64) Points ∼99%
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U
656 Points ∼96%
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (361 - 815, n=38)
596 Points ∼87%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
537 Points ∼79%
Cinebench R10
Rendering Single 32Bit
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (2682 - 8906, n=12)
6559 Points ∼100%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4776 Points ∼73%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4045 Points ∼62%
Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (14912 - 23118, n=12)
18056 Points ∼100%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18041 Points ∼100%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
12881 Points ∼71%
Cinebench R20
CPU (Single Core)
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (176 - 472, n=9)
390 Points ∼100%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
368 Points ∼94%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
366 Points ∼94%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
343 Points ∼88%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
285 Points ∼73%
CPU (Multi Core)
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1560 Points ∼100%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1506 Points ∼97%
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (880 - 1571, n=9)
1231 Points ∼79%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1110 Points ∼71%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1047 Points ∼67%
Geekbench 3
32 Bit Multi-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (10521 - 13703, n=9)
12261 Points ∼100%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10238 Points ∼84%
32 Bit Single-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (3568 - 4820, n=9)
4034 Points ∼100%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3003 Points ∼74%
Geekbench 4.3
64 Bit Multi-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (8142 - 16890, n=20)
13946 Points ∼100%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
11107 Points ∼80%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10997 Points ∼79%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10087 Points ∼72%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
8907 Points ∼64%
64 Bit Single-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (2357 - 5547, n=20)
4989 Points ∼100%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4009 Points ∼80%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3941 Points ∼79%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3746 Points ∼75%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3445 Points ∼69%
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
1405.2 ms * ∼100%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1320 ms * ∼94%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (EDGE: 44.17763.1.0)
1299.2 ms * ∼92%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge: 44.17763.1.0)
1285.1 ms * ∼91%
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (730 - 2622, n=32)
1084 ms * ∼77%
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
1026.9 ms * ∼73%
Octane V2 - Total Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (13935 - 49795, n=32)
35516 Points ∼100%
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
34943 Points ∼98%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge: 44.17763.1.0)
27500 Points ∼77%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (EDGE: 44.17763.1.0)
27490 Points ∼77%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
26038 Points ∼73%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
23657 Points ∼67%
Speedometer 2.0 - Result
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (55.5 - 62.5, n=4)
59.2 runs/min ∼100%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
35.3 runs/min ∼60%
WebXPRT 3 - ---
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (202 - 239, n=3)
225 Points ∼100%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
152 Points ∼68%
JetStream 1.1 - Total Score
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
259.94 Points ∼100%
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (108 - 277, n=27)
240 Points ∼92%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
177.03 Points ∼68%

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3DMark
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
1130 Points ∼100%
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (1050 - 1134, n=5)
1103 Points ∼98%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
779 Points ∼69%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
578 Points ∼51%
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
3664 Points ∼100%
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (2977 - 3863, n=9)
3621 Points ∼99%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2581 Points ∼70%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2568 Points ∼70%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2025 Points ∼55%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1950 Points ∼53%
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
22615 Points ∼100%
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (20283 - 23748, n=9)
22250 Points ∼98%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18581 Points ∼82%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18378 Points ∼81%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
14056 Points ∼62%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
13891 Points ∼61%
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (3593 - 4942, n=9)
4519 Points ∼100%
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
4459 Points ∼99%
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4056 Points ∼90%
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4056 Points ∼90%
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3968 Points ∼88%
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3287 Points ∼73%
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Allen Ngo, 2019-07-12 (Update: 2019-07-12)
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After graduating with a B.S. in environmental hydrodynamics from the University of California, I studied reactor physics to become licensed by the U.S. NRC to operate nuclear reactors. There's a striking level of appreciation you gain for everyday consumer electronics after working with modern nuclear reactivity systems astonishingly powered by computers from the 80s. When I'm not managing day-to-day activities and US review articles on Notebookcheck, you can catch me following the eSports scene and the latest gaming news.