AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 PRO 3500U

The AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U is a mobile SoC for business laptops that was announced in April  2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 5 3500U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
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AM4AM4
XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) R5 PRO 3500U

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 PRO 3500U
36.6 pt (37%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (45%)
min: 354     avg: 362     median: 361.5 (56%)     max: 369 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (15%)
min: 1328     avg: 1339     median: 1338.5 (13%)     max: 1349 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
788 Points (18%)
min: 611     avg: 624     median: 624 (14%)     max: 637 Points
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Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
166 Points (61%)
min: 140     avg: 142     median: 142 (52%)     max: 144 Points
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 15910     avg: 16221     median: 16220.5 (13%)     max: 16531 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 3432     avg: 3474     median: 3474 (23%)     max: 3516 MIPS
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 3.36     avg: 3.5     median: 3.5 (11%)     max: 3.6 fps
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Blender 2.79 - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 786     avg: 796     median: 795.5 (6%)     max: 805 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
0.8 sec (17%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 5150     avg: 5781     median: 5781 (24%)     max: 6412 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
43514 Points (28%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 5629     avg: 5860     median: 5859.5 (15%)     max: 6090 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 8547     avg: 8809     median: 8808.5 (22%)     max: 9070 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 2595     avg: 2638     median: 2638 (18%)     max: 2681 Points
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
3820 (52%)
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
10419 (16%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 (53%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 (20%)
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Single-Core
940 (52%)
863 (48%)
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Multi-Core
3050 (18%)
2824 (17%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 1097     avg: 1211     median: 1211.1 (2%)     max: 1325.1 ms
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 27185     avg: 27437     median: 27437 (44%)     max: 27689 Points

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100% n=6

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U → 93% n=6

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)