AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 3780U

The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

► remove from comparison AMD R3 3200U

The AMD Ryzen 3 3200U is a mobile Dual-Core-SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines two Zen+ cores (with SMT / Hyperthreading so running 4 threads) clocked at 2.6 - 3.5 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 3 graphics card with 3 CUs (192 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

In contrast to the faster quad-core Picasso APUs, the Ryzen 3 3200U only supports 3 instead of 4 displays in total.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 3 3200U should be faster than the Ryzen 3 2200U (2.5 - 3.4 GHz Dual Core with SMT).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 3 3200U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3250U compare2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
» AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2.6 - 3.5 GHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U compare2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2600 - 3500 MHz
384 KB192 KB
2 MB1 MB
4 MB4 MB
4 / 82 / 4
15 15
4500 4500
12 12
AM4AM4
XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86
105 °C

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R3 3200U
30.8 pt (31%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 CPU (Multi Core)
1804 Points (7%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 CPU (Single Core)
208 Points (13%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (45%)
min: 274     avg: 301     median: 311 (49%)     max: 318 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (15%)
min: 453     avg: 631     median: 714 (7%)     max: 727 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
788 Points (18%)
min: 318     avg: 326     median: 326 (7%)     max: 334 Points
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Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
166 Points (61%)
min: 126     avg: 128     median: 128 (47%)     max: 130 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4258 (38%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
9284 (16%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
484 s (6%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
14 s (3%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
1613 (10%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 8785     avg: 8885     median: 8884.5 (7%)     max: 8984 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 3333     avg: 3370     median: 3369.5 (22%)     max: 3406 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
19.5 fps (9%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
97.8 fps (29%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 1.864     avg: 1.9     median: 1.9 (6%)     max: 2.03 fps
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TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.2 GB/s (9%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.4 GB/s (10%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
2.2 GB/s (8%)
Blender 2.79 - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
1439 Seconds (10%)
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
0.8 sec (18%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
3755 Points (21%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12.5 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
29 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
730 s (3%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 3653     avg: 3744     median: 3744 (15%)     max: 3835 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
min: 41939     avg: 43929     median: 43929 (28%)     max: 45919 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
min: 42486     avg: 43044     median: 43044 (46%)     max: 43602 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 46717     avg: 48111     median: 48111 (50%)     max: 49505 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 3329     avg: 3346     median: 3345.5 (8%)     max: 3362 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 4947     avg: 5094     median: 5094 (13%)     max: 5241 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 1509     avg: 1525     median: 1524.5 (11%)     max: 1540 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
7535 Points (61%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
5586 Points (51%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
9447 Points (19%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
7540 Points (15%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
7816 Points (20%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
6922 (12%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
3282 (67%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
7496 (12%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
3673 (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3626 (56%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
7237 (18%)
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 3366     avg: 3562     median: 3562 (49%)     max: 3758
Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 6553     avg: 7143     median: 7143 (11%)     max: 7733
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 (53%)
min: 823     avg: 827     median: 826.5 (49%)     max: 830
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 (20%)
min: 1529     avg: 1649     median: 1649 (10%)     max: 1769
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Single-Core
940 (52%)
min: 813     avg: 830     median: 830 (46%)     max: 847
Geekbench 5.3 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.3 64 Bit Multi-Core
3050 (18%)
min: 1604     avg: 1670     median: 1670 (10%)     max: 1736
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 1225     avg: 1300     median: 1299.7 (2%)     max: 1374.4 ms
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
130 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
23991 Points (38%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100% n=8

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3200U → 69% n=8

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)