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HP Pavilion Gaming 17 vs. MSI GF75: Sacrificing portability for cooler and quieter gaming

HP Pavilion Gaming 17 vs. MSI GF75: Sacrificing portability for cooler and quieter gaming
HP Pavilion Gaming 17 vs. MSI GF75: Sacrificing portability for cooler and quieter gaming
If you're in the market for an entry-level gaming machine, the Pavilion Gaming 17 costs about the same as the MSI GF75 and yet it offers faster gaming performance at measurably quieter and cooler temperatures overall. However, the MSI is significantly lighter and thinner.

Now that laptops with Nvidia Turing have been in market for over six months, we have a better idea of overall performance and a larger sample size to pick and choose from. This face off page will focus on the budget-midrange HP Pavilion Gaming 17 and MSI GF75 9SC each equipped with the same CPU but different GTX Turing GPUs to explore the advantages and disadvantages of each model. As configured, the HP and MSI can be found online for about $1300 and $1200 USD, respectively, depending on RAM and storage choices.

We recommend checking out our full reviews on the HP Pavilion Gaming 17 and MSI GF75 for more detailed information on each.

 HP Pavilion Gaming 17 2019MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
CPUCore i7-9750HCore i7-9750H
GPUGeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q w/ 6 GB GDDR6 VRAMGeForce GTX 1650 w/ 4 GB GDDR5 VRAM
RAM2x SODIMM slots (DDR4-2666)2x SODIMM slots (DDR4-2666)
Ports3x USB Type-A, USB Type-C, HDMI, 3.5 mm combo audio, Gigabit Ethernet, SD reader3x USB Type-A, USB Type-C, HDMI, 3.5 mm headphones, 3.5 mm mic, Gigabit Ethernet
WLAN Battery Life5 hr 39 min (52.5 Wh)4 hr 44 min (51 Wh)
Dimensions25 x 405 x 282 mm23.1 x 397 x 260 mm
Weight2.8 kg2.3 kg
CPU Temperature When Gaming~68 C~68 C
GPU Temperature When Gaming64 C78 C
Fan Noise When Gaming34.2 to 36.7 dB(A)40.6 dB(A)
Price$1300 USD$1200 USD

Case

Despite retailing for about the same price and being nearly the same in thickness, the HP is much denser and heavier than its MSI counterpart by about 500 g. This weight disadvantage comes into play in performance and noise, but users who want a lighter and more travel-friendly solution should consider the MSI over the HP.

Being smaller, lighter, and less expensive has its consequences in terms of chassis rigidity. The HP system is built more strongly and with noticeably less flexing and creaking around its base and lid.

Ports

HP integrates a full-size SD card reader in lieu of a second 3.5 mm audio jack while the opposite is true on the MSI. Otherwise, port selection is identical. One option may be better than the other depending on what you may prefer.

CPU Performance 

The Core i7-9750H in the HP outperforms the same Core i7-9750H in the MSI by about 9 percent according to CineBench workloads. Even after accounting for throttling, the HP system is able to maintain higher clock rates for a 10 percent lead.

GPU Performance

The HP system is equipped with the faster GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q GPU and so it is unsurprisingly faster than the GTX 1650 GPU in the GF75. Users can expect 40 to 50 percent faster graphics performance from the HP.

Temperatures

When running Witcher 3, CPU temperatures between the HP and MSI are nearly the same at about 68 C. Meanwhile, the GPU in the HP runs cooler at 64 C vs. 78 C on the MSI. This translates to cooler surface temperatures as well by just a few degrees C.

Display

The BOE panel of the HP has its trade offs when compared to the AUO panel of the MSI. While the former offers faster response times for less ghosting, the latter is brighter and with more accurate colors overall. It's possible to reach the same level of color accuracy on the HP since its reproducible color space is practically the same as the MSI, but this would require an end-user calibration.

Although some gamers will inevitably disagree, we feel that faster response times have priority over color accuracy on gaming laptops especially for faster-paced titles.

Fan Noise

The Pavilion Gaming 17 is the much quieter system by a wide margin both in and out of gaming. Its fans are more lethargic and less likely to pulse when browsing for a better experience overall. When gaming, fan noise tends to stabilize in the 34.2 to 36.7 dB(A) range compared to almost 41 dB(A) on the MSI. A closer look at their respective cooling solutions reveals that the HP houses larger heat pipes and fans than on the MSI.

Power Consumption

The HP consumes about 2 W more than the MSI when gaming (108 W vs. 106 W) and yet it offers a 40 to 50 percent boost in graphics performance. Needless to say, performance-per-Watt is in HP's favor. Even when not gaming, the HP system manages to be more power efficient overall at <13 W when idling on desktop compared to <25 W on the MSI.

Battery Life

While both laptops have nearly the same same capacities (52.5 Wh vs. 51 Wh), the superior power efficiency of the HP as mentioned above means it can last longer before needing to recharge. We're able to record a WLAN runtime of almost an hour longer on the HP.

Verdict

HP has a long list of advantages over the MSI. Not only does it cost about the same, but it also offers noticeably quieter fans, cooler core temperatures, longer battery life, faster display response times, a stronger chassis design, and a significantly faster GPU. The performance and value winner in this comparison is pretty clear.

The biggest trump card for MSI is its smaller dimensions and much lighter weight. It's half a kilogram lighter, 16 percent brighter, and 16 percent smaller in volume to be easier to carry around and use outdoors. Even so, you'll have to sacrifice a lot along the way for what you gain in portability.

HP Pavilion Gaming 17MSI GF75 9SC
Advantages
  • Slightly faster CPU performance
  • Much faster GPU performance
  • More rigid chassis design
  • SD card reader
  • Faster display response times
  • Much higher performance-per-Watt
  • Longer battery life
  • Significantly quieter
  • Much lighter in weight
  • Smaller in size
  • More accurate colors out of the box
  • Slightly less expensive
  • dedicated 3.5 mm microphone jack
  • Larger Arrow keys
  • Easier to service or upgrade
  • Brighter display

 

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Size Comparison

405 mm / 15.9 inch 282 mm / 11.1 inch 25 mm / 0.984 inch 2.8 kg6.08 lbs397 mm / 15.6 inch 260 mm / 10.2 inch 23.1 mm / 0.909 inch 2.3 kg4.96 lbs
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HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl Intel Core i7-9750H, Intel Core i7-9750H: Ø1077 (1065.56-1205.55)
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC Intel Core i7-9750H, Intel Core i7-9750H: Ø970 (960.59-1110.2)
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
Intel Core i7-9750H
193 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Core i7-9750H
189 Points ∼98%
CPU Multi 64Bit
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
Intel Core i7-9750H
1172 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
Intel Core i7-9750H
1071 Points ∼91%
PCMark 10
Digital Content Creation
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
6502 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5859 Points ∼90%
Productivity
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
7419 Points ∼100%
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
7165 Points ∼97%
Essentials
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
9320 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
9029 Points ∼97%
Score
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
5429 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5249 Points ∼97%
PCMark 8
Work Score Accelerated v2
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
5417 Points ∼100%
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
5222 Points ∼96%
Home Score Accelerated v2
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 9750H, Samsung SSD PM981 MZVLB256HAHQ
4148 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 9750H, Crucial P1 SSD CT1000P1SSD8
4116 Points ∼99%
3DMark
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
5043 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
3470 Points ∼69%
3840x2160 Fire Strike Ultra Graphics
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
2686 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
1773 Points ∼66%
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
13188 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
9350 Points ∼71%
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
17457 Points ∼100%
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
13143 Points ∼75%
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
BOE0825, IPS, 1920x1080
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
AU Optronics B173HAN04.2, IPS, 1920x1080
Response Times
Response Time Grey 50% / Grey 80% *
31.6 (14, 17.6)
34 (17.6, 16.4)
Response Time Black / White *
19.6 (10.8, 8.8)
30.4 (18, 12.4)
PWM Frequency
Screen
Brightness middle
299.6
344.7
Brightness
285
332
Brightness Distribution
86
91
Black Level *
0.33
0.3
Contrast
908
1149
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 *
3.68
3.08
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 max. *
8.05
6.32
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 calibrated *
3.15
2.94
Greyscale DeltaE2000 *
3.8
3.8
Gamma
2.12 104%
2.17 101%
CCT
7240 90%
7284 89%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)
58.1
58
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)
89.8
89.6
Total Average (Program / Settings)

* ... smaller is better

HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
Noise
off / environment *
28.2
28.2
Idle Minimum *
30.1
33.6
Idle Average *
30.1
33.6
Idle Maximum *
30.1
33.8
Load Average *
34.2
37.2
Witcher 3 ultra *
34.2
40.6
Load Maximum *
43.8
44.4

* ... smaller is better

HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q, 52.5 Wh
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop), 51 Wh
Battery Runtime
Reader / Idle
695
WiFi v1.3
339
284
Load
59
HP Pavilion Gaming 17-cd0085cl
9750H, GeForce GTX 1660 Ti Max-Q
MSI GF75 Thin 9SC
9750H, GeForce GTX 1650 (Laptop)
Power Consumption
Idle Minimum *
5.4
6.1
Idle Average *
9.2
11.2
Idle Maximum *
13
24.5
Load Average *
85.9
94.7
Load Maximum *
182.2
192.2
Witcher 3 ultra *
107.9
105.8

* ... smaller is better

Update by Klaus Hinum: Clarified the weight and size differences, made updates to the wording

HP Pavilion Gaming 17 cooling solution
HP Pavilion Gaming 17 cooling solution
MSI GF75 9SC cooling solution
MSI GF75 9SC cooling solution
Twin ~50 mm fans and four heat pipes of the Pavilion Gaming 17
Twin ~50 mm fans and four heat pipes of the Pavilion Gaming 17
Twin ~45 mm fans and four heat pipes of the GF75
Twin ~45 mm fans and four heat pipes of the GF75
Top surface temperatures of the HP when running Witcher 3
Top surface temperatures of the HP when running Witcher 3
Top surface temperatures of the MSI when running Witcher 3
Top surface temperatures of the MSI when running Witcher 3
Bottom surface temperatures of the HP when running Witcher 3
Bottom surface temperatures of the HP when running Witcher 3
Bottom surface temperatures of the MSI when running Witcher 3
Bottom surface temperatures of the MSI when running Witcher 3
Cooler dual rear exhaust of the HP
Cooler dual rear exhaust of the HP
Warmer side exhaust of the MSI
Warmer side exhaust of the MSI
System statistics when running Witcher 3 on the HP
System statistics when running Witcher 3 on the HP
System statistics when running Witcher 3 on the MSI
System statistics when running Witcher 3 on the MSI
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Allen Ngo, 2019-07-29 (Update: 2019-07-30)
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After graduating with a B.S. in environmental hydrodynamics from the University of California, I studied reactor physics to become licensed by the U.S. NRC to operate nuclear reactors. There's a striking level of appreciation you gain for everyday consumer electronics after working with modern nuclear reactivity systems astonishingly powered by computers from the 80s. When I'm not managing day-to-day activities and US review articles on Notebookcheck, you can catch me following the eSports scene and the latest gaming news.