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HP 17 (Ryzen 5 2500U, FHD, IPS, Vega 8) Review

Nino Richizzi, 👁 Sebastian Jentsch, Felicitas Krohn (translated by Martin Jungowski), 10/24/2018

AMD-only. After some mixed reviews of their first version HP has now released a new HP 17 with all-out AMD components and an IPS panel. It does certainly offer some improvements, but does not come without any backlash.

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We have already had HP’s 17-inch notebook in review. The last model, reviewed in 2017, was equipped with an Intel Core i5 CPU and an AMD Radeon 530 GPU. Its biggest weakness was the poor TN panel. Today’s review unit features a high-quality IPS panel, a much more powerful AMD Ryzen 2500U CPU, an AMD Vega 8 GPU, a 256 GB large SSD, and a 1 TB large HDD. Compared to last year’s model, we expect a substantial performance boost due to its much faster components. The price has remained the same, and our particular review unit sold for 700 Euros (~$794) at the time of writing.

HP 17-ca0013ng (17 Series)
Graphics adapter
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8, Core: 1100 MHz, Memory: 1200 MHz, 23.20.828
Display
17.3 inch 16:9, 1920 x 1080 pixel 127 PPI, LG Philips LGD059E, IPS, glossy: no
Mainboard
AMD CZ FCH
Storage
Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G, 256 GB 
, extra 1 TB Toshiba MQ04ABF100, 1100 GB free
Soundcard
AMD Raven - Audio Processor - HD Audio Controller
Connections
1 USB 2.0, 2 USB 3.0 / 3.1 Gen1, 1 HDMI, 1 Kensington Lock, Audio Connections: audio combo, Card Reader: SD
Networking
Realtek RTL8168/8111 Gigabit-LAN (10/100/1000MBit), RealTek Semiconductor, Device ID: C821 (a/b/g/n/ac), Bluetooth 4.2
Optical drive
DVD +/- RW Double Layer
Size
height x width x depth (in mm): 25 x 415 x 278 ( = 0.98 x 16.34 x 10.94 in)
Battery
40.6 Wh Lithium-Ion
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 10 Home 64 Bit
Camera
Webcam: 720p
Additional features
Speakers: stereo speakers, Keyboard: Chiclet, Keyboard Light: no, 12 Months Warranty
Weight
2.453 kg ( = 86.53 oz / 5.41 pounds), Power Supply: 280 g ( = 9.88 oz / 0.62 pounds)
Price
700 Euro
Note: The manufacturer may use components from different suppliers including display panels, drives or memory sticks with similar specifications.

 

Classy aluminum design
Classy aluminum design
Class aluminum design
With improved internals
With improved internals

Size Comparison

Given that the case has remained practically unchanged from last year’s model we would like to refer you to our previous review for further details.

The one thing that has changed is the port placement: all left-hand side ports have been relocated towards the rear, and the fan no longer vents to the left side.

The SD card reader performed better than last year. In our JPEG copy test, conducted with our 64 GB Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC UHS-II reference card, it managed 34 MB/s compared to last year’s 23 MB/s. However, despite its improved performance the card reader still remained below average for its class. Wi-Fi performance has also been improved somewhat and is now at around 200 Mbps out of a possible maximum of 433 Mbps.

Right: SD card reader, USB 2.0, DVD drive, Kensington lock
Right: SD card reader, USB 2.0, DVD drive, Kensington lock
Left: Power, Ethernet, HDMI, 2x USB 3.0, audio combo
Left: Power, Ethernet, HDMI, 2x USB 3.0, audio combo
SDCardreader Transfer Speed
average JPG Copy Test (av. of 3 runs)
Average of class Multimedia
  (11.2 - 190, n=153)
57.2 MB/s ∼100% +69%
HP 17-ca0013ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
33.9 MB/s ∼59%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
28 MB/s ∼49% -17%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
24.1 MB/s ∼42% -29%
HP 17-bs103ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
22.9 MB/s ∼40% -32%
maximum AS SSD Seq Read Test (1GB)
Average of class Multimedia
  (10.2 - 253, n=150)
74.7 MB/s ∼100% +106%
HP 17-ca0013ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
36.2 MB/s ∼48%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
34.7 MB/s ∼46% -4%
HP 17-bs103ng
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
30.26 MB/s ∼41% -16%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
  (Toshiba Exceria Pro SDXC 64 GB UHS-II)
16.9 MB/s ∼23% -53%
Networking
iperf3 Client (receive) TCP 1 m 4M x10
Average of class Multimedia
  (44 - 949, n=112)
496 MBit/s ∼100% +130%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Wireless Network Adapter
338 MBit/s ∼68% +56%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
288 MBit/s ∼58% +33%
HP 17-ca0013ng
RealTek Semiconductor, Device ID: C821
216 MBit/s ∼44%
HP 17-bs103ng
Realtek RTL8723DE
94 MBit/s ∼19% -56%
iperf3 Client (transmit) TCP 1 m 4M x10
Average of class Multimedia
  (46.1 - 949, n=111)
469 MBit/s ∼100% +159%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
Realtek 8821AE Wireless LAN 802.11ac PCI-E NIC
353 MBit/s ∼75% +95%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Qualcomm Atheros QCA9377 Wireless Network Adapter
308 MBit/s ∼66% +70%
HP 17-ca0013ng
RealTek Semiconductor, Device ID: C821
181 MBit/s ∼39%
HP 17-bs103ng
Realtek RTL8723DE
109 MBit/s ∼23% -40%

Display

Today’s review unit features an FHD IPS panel with wide viewing angles. Last year’s TN panel turned out to be very dark and very poor overall, and this year’s IPS panel is a massive improvement. Its average brightness of 350 nits means that it can be easily used even in brightly lit environments, and its contrast ratio of 1,100:1 is more than just competitive.

Subpixel geometry
Subpixel geometry
Outdoors
Outdoors
Viewing angles
Viewing angles

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352
cd/m²
361
cd/m²
353
cd/m²
344
cd/m²
394
cd/m²
352
cd/m²
328
cd/m²
347
cd/m²
339
cd/m²
Distribution of brightness
X-Rite i1Pro 2
Maximum: 394 cd/m² Average: 352.2 cd/m² Minimum: 24.5 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 83 %
Center on Battery: 394 cd/m²
Contrast: 1126:1 (Black: 0.35 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 6.08 | 0.4-29.43 Ø6.2, calibrated: 2.8
ΔE Greyscale 7.22 | 0.64-98 Ø6.5
86% sRGB (Argyll 3D) 57% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll 3D)
Gamma: 2.48
HP 17-ca0013ng
LG Philips LGD059E, IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3
HP 17-bs103ng
AU Optronics B173RTN02.1, TN LED, 1600x900, 17.3
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
AUO109D (AU Optronics), IPS, 1920x1080, 17.3
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
AU Optronics B173RTN02.1, TN LED, 1600x900, 17.3
Average of class Multimedia
 
Screen
-39%
19%
-51%
-28%
Brightness middle
394
234
-41%
279
-29%
205
-48%
243 (104 - 568, n=946)
-38%
Brightness
352
202
-43%
262
-26%
209
-41%
Brightness Distribution
83
74
-11%
85
2%
81
-2%
Black Level *
0.35
0.48
-37%
0.18
49%
0.55
-57%
0.691 (0.15 - 2.72, n=977)
-97%
Contrast
1126
488
-57%
1550
38%
373
-67%
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 *
6.08
10.28
-69%
3.58
41%
11.26
-85%
7.15 (1.2 - 15.4, n=351)
-18%
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 max. *
10.88
18.5
-70%
5.98
45%
19.86
-83%
12.1 (2.11 - 32.4, n=154)
-11%
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 calibrated *
2.8
3.62 (0.9 - 6.07, n=34)
-29%
Greyscale DeltaE2000 *
7.22
12.78
-77%
2.75
62%
13.85
-92%
7.51 (0.79 - 16.8, n=352)
-4%
Gamma
2.48 89%
2.5 88%
2.57 86%
2.48 89%
2.37 93% (1.66 - 3.79, n=352)
CCT
7997 81%
13604 48%
6836 95%
15307 42%
9356 69% (1225 - 32955, n=345)
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)
57
59
4%
58
2%
47
-18%
50.4 (28.4 - 89, n=326)
-12%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)
86
92
7%
88
2%
73
-15%
76.8 (51 - 100, n=204)
-11%

* ... smaller is better

Display Response Times

Display response times show how fast the screen is able to change from one color to the next. Slow response times can lead to afterimages and can cause moving objects to appear blurry (ghosting). Gamers of fast-paced 3D titles should pay special attention to fast response times.
       Response Time Black to White
24 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 14 ms rise
↘ 10 ms fall
The screen shows good response rates in our tests, but may be too slow for competitive gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.8 (minimum) to 240 (maximum) ms. » 32 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is similar to the average of all tested devices (25.6 ms).
       Response Time 50% Grey to 80% Grey
33 ms ... rise ↗ and fall ↘ combined↗ 16 ms rise
↘ 17 ms fall
The screen shows slow response rates in our tests and will be unsatisfactory for gamers.
In comparison, all tested devices range from 0.9 (minimum) to 636 (maximum) ms. » 20 % of all devices are better.
This means that the measured response time is better than the average of all tested devices (41 ms).

Screen Flickering / PWM (Pulse-Width Modulation)

To dim the screen, some notebooks will simply cycle the backlight on and off in rapid succession - a method called Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) . This cycling frequency should ideally be undetectable to the human eye. If said frequency is too low, users with sensitive eyes may experience strain or headaches or even notice the flickering altogether.
Screen flickering / PWM not detected

In comparison: 53 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 8933 (minimum: 43 - maximum: 142900) Hz was measured.

Out of the box, grayscale and color deviations were comparatively high for an IPS panel, and we also noticed a slight blue tint. We were able to improve upon DeltaE deviations through calibration.

CalMAN ColorChecker uncalibrated
CalMAN ColorChecker uncalibrated
CalMAN GrayScale uncalibrated
CalMAN GrayScale uncalibrated
CalMAN Saturation Sweeps uncalibrated
CalMAN Saturation Sweeps uncalibrated
CalMAN ColorChecker calibrated
CalMAN ColorChecker calibrated
CalMAN GrayScale calibrated
CalMAN GrayScale calibrated
CalMAN Saturation Sweeps calibrated
CalMAN Saturation Sweeps calibrated
AdobeRGB
AdobeRGB
sRGB
sRGB

Performance

HP’s latest 17-inch laptop is a true AMD-only device. At its core, it features a Ryzen quad-core CPU accompanied by a mid-range Vega RX GPU, two 4 GB DDR4 memory modules in dual-channel mode, and a combined SSD/HDD storage solution. The system is aimed primarily at multimedia users with occasional gaming ambitions. At the time of writing our review unit sold for 700 Euros (~$794).

Processor

Four cores running at clock speeds of between 2 and 3.6 GHz should be a worthy replacement for Intel’s Core i5-8250U that last year’s model was equipped with. At least on paper AMD's Ryzen 5 2500U should be more or less on a par with Intel’s Core i5-8250U.

It managed to outperform its Intel competitor in Cinebench R15. However, it scored similarly in our sustained load scenario, and both systems yielded around 510 points.

More information on this and other CPUs can be found in our benchmark charts.

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HP 17-ca0013ng Vega 8, 2500U, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G: Ø549 (510.21-605.1)
HP 17-bs103ng Radeon 530, 8250U, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035: Ø515 (508.89-548.71)
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
HP 17-bs103ng
Intel Core i5-8250U
144 Points ∼66% +6%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Intel Core i5-8250U
143 Points ∼66% +5%
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 8
  (124 - 150, n=13)
137 Points ∼63% +1%
HP 17-ca0013ng
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
136 Points ∼62%
Acer Aspire E5-774G-78NA
Intel Core i7-6500U
131 Points ∼60% -4%
Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15ARR 81D2005CUS
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
126 Points ∼58% -7%
HP Pavilion 15-cw0003ng
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
124 Points ∼57% -9%
Average of class Multimedia
  (36 - 191, n=337)
124 Points ∼57% -9%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
AMD E2-9000
47 Points ∼22% -65%
CPU Multi 64Bit
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Intel Core i5-8250U
636 Points ∼15% +5%
HP Pavilion 15-cw0003ng
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
606 (min: 417.88, max: 605.96) Points ∼14% 0%
HP 17-ca0013ng
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
605 Points ∼14%
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 8
  (510 - 618, n=13)
577 Points ∼13% -5%
HP 17-bs103ng
Intel Core i5-8250U
549 Points ∼13% -9%
Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15ARR 81D2005CUS
AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
510 Points ∼12% -16%
Average of class Multimedia
  (73 - 1550, n=348)
458 Points ∼10% -24%
Acer Aspire E5-774G-78NA
Intel Core i7-6500U
330 Points ∼8% -45%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
AMD E2-9000
84 Points ∼2% -86%
Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit
136 Points
Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit
605 Points
Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit
47.93 fps
Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit
98 %
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System Performance

System performance is the sum of all components. A fast SSD, a powerful GPU, and a decent CPU should make for a smooth and enjoyable office application and web browsing performance. Accordingly, the HP 17 scored almost 3,500 points in PCMark 8.

PCMark 8 - Home Score Accelerated v2
HP 17-bs103ng
Radeon 530, 8250U, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
3824 Points ∼100% +11%
Acer Aspire E5-774G-78NA
GeForce 940MX, 6500U, Lite-On CV1-8B256
3734 Points ∼98% +8%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
UHD Graphics 620, 8250U, SK hynix SC311 M.2
3722 Points ∼97% +8%
HP 17-ca0013ng
Vega 8, 2500U, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
3449 Points ∼90%
Average of class Multimedia
  (1740 - 4693, n=274)
3352 Points ∼88% -3%
Average AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8
  (3049 - 3462, n=8)
3325 Points ∼87% -4%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
Radeon R2 (Stoney Ridge), E2-9000, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
1844 Points ∼48% -47%
PCMark 8 Home Score Accelerated v2
3449 points
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Storage Devices

The HP 17 features two storage devices. A 256 GB large PCIe SSD with read speeds of up to 1,000 MB/s and write speeds of up to 800 MB/s, and a conventional 1 TB large HDD for additional storage. The operating system is installed on the SSD resulting in snappy and quasi instantaneous handling.

HP 17-ca0013ng
Vega 8, 2500U, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
HP 17-bs103ng
Radeon 530, 8250U, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
UHD Graphics 620, 8250U, SK hynix SC311 M.2
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
Radeon R2 (Stoney Ridge), E2-9000, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
Average Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
 
CrystalDiskMark 3.0
-96%
-43%
-95%
5%
Write 4k QD32
169.9
0.704
-100%
144.9
-15%
0.154
-100%
223 (158 - 340, n=3)
31%
Read 4k QD32
266
0.707
-100%
170.1
-36%
1.088
-100%
283 (265 - 319, n=3)
6%
Write 4k
82.26
0.502
-99%
76.45
-7%
0.316
-100%
83.7 (79.6 - 89.3, n=3)
2%
Read 4k
40.66
0.399
-99%
27.33
-33%
0.448
-99%
41.6 (40.7 - 42.8, n=3)
2%
Write 512
749.9
72.27
-90%
139.3
-81%
92.19
-88%
614 (449 - 750, n=3)
-18%
Read 512
569.4
29.93
-95%
349.1
-39%
30.3
-95%
683 (569 - 859, n=3)
20%
Write Seq
833.9
80.08
-90%
170.3
-80%
87.01
-90%
749 (695 - 834, n=3)
-10%
Read Seq
1003
73.02
-93%
481.4
-52%
98.62
-90%
1040 (1003 - 1065, n=3)
4%
Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
Sequential Read: 1003 MB/s
Sequential Write: 833.9 MB/s
512K Read: 569.4 MB/s
512K Write: 749.9 MB/s
4K Read: 40.66 MB/s
4K Write: 82.26 MB/s
4K QD32 Read: 266 MB/s
4K QD32 Write: 169.9 MB/s

GPU Performance

All things graphics are handled by the integrated AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 GPU. This mid-range GPU has replaced last year’s Radeon 530, which it managed to outperform by more than 50 % in 3DMark 11.

Gaming is certainly possible with the Vega 8, although more demanding modern games might require a reduced resolution and/or reduced details.

More information and additional benchmarks can be found in our benchmark charts.

GPU Performance

3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
HP 17-ca0013ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
3538 Points ∼100%
Average AMD Radeon RX Vega 8
  (1668 - 4317, n=14)
3181 Points ∼90% -10%
Average of class Multimedia
  (352 - 18234, n=605)
2791 Points ∼79% -21%
HP 17-bs103ng
AMD Radeon 530, Intel Core i5-8250U
2320 Points ∼66% -34%
Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15ARR 81D2005CUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U
2294 Points ∼65% -35%
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Intel UHD Graphics 620, Intel Core i5-8250U
1622 Points ∼46% -54%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
AMD Radeon R2 (Stoney Ridge), AMD E2-9000
747 Points ∼21% -79%
3DMark 11 Performance
3628 points
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Gaming Performance

Older games, such as “BioShock Infinite” or “Rise of the Tomb Raider”, ran very smoothly even on medium settings. Please note that our review unit did not allow us to select a resolution of 1366x768. Accordingly, we were not able to run our entire benchmark suite.

BioShock Infinite
    1920x1080 Ultra Preset, DX11 (DDOF)     1366x768 High Preset     1366x768 Medium Preset     1280x720 Very Low Preset
HP 17-ca0013ng
Vega 8, 2500U, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
19.34 fps ∼100%
fps ∼0%
fps ∼0%
99.5 fps ∼100%
HP 17-bs103ng
Radeon 530, 8250U, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
33.7 fps ∼100%
43.7 fps ∼100%
73.8 fps ∼74%
Lenovo IdeaPad 330-15ARR 81D2005CUS
Vega 8, 2500U, SK Hynix Canvas SC311 256GB HFS256G32TNF
7.6 fps ∼39%
68.9 fps ∼69%
Rise of the Tomb Raider
    1920x1080 High Preset AA:FX AF:4x     1024x768 Lowest Preset
HP 17-ca0013ng
Vega 8, 2500U, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
13.5 fps ∼100%
37 fps ∼100%

Emissions and Energy

System Noise

Noise Level

Idle
32.8 / 32.8 / 32.8 dB(A)
DVD
36.6 / dB(A)
Load
34.2 / 36.4 dB(A)
  red to green bar
 
 
30 dB
silent
40 dB(A)
audible
50 dB(A)
loud
 
min: dark, med: mid, max: light   Audix TM1, Arta (15 cm distance)   environment noise: 30.6 dB(A)

As with the previous model the single fan was always on, and it still behaved rather squirrelly. Just by launching an application you could already hear the fan speed increase. Fortunately, it remained largely unobtrusive and reached a maximum sound pressure level of just 36 dB(A).

Fan noise
Fan noise
dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2032.63332.535.729.92531.432.731.735.832.23133.131.531.837.5324031.130.530.631.529.85032.330.932.636.632.86328.228.628.527.629.18028.327.826.827.228.310027.326.327.525.127.412525.326.926.425.825.916024.725.424.524.324.520024.324.223.323.123.825022.924.623.622.723.33152525.825.621.724.240025.226.22220.722.750021.922.222.52021.86302223.920.919.820.880024.52422.618.622.2100025.528.525.318.224.7125023.926.522.217.921.8160024.926.221.417.820.9200022.128.320.317.520250021.424.519.817.619.3315020.121.618.817.918.9400018.319.218.21818.2500018.418.918.218.118.1630018.218.718.318.118.2800018.218.418.318.218.31000018.318.318.318.118.41250018.218.318.21818.21600018.318.318.218.118.3SPL34.236.43330.632.7N1.82.21.71.31.6median 22.1median 24.2median 21.4median 18.2median 20.9Delta33.32.722.732.730.630.731.932.732.631.630.93132.634.534.934.935.334.532.131.130.331.632.128.730.528.73728.729.629.329.229.829.627.828.327.625.627.827.425.927.426.127.426.82625.324.226.824.524.623.723.824.522.723.222.52322.722.222.422.821.322.221.422.122.421.121.420.82120.720.420.820.720.819.719.520.720.621.420.318.920.625.6262718.425.623.124.9241823.121.524.419.717.921.521.224.419.117.621.221.223.918.717.321.219.721.318.217.719.718.719.818.517.718.718.318.91817.818.318.318.418.318.118.318.418.318.218.318.418.218.318.418.418.218.318.318.418.518.318.418.418.218.618.418.618.318.518.618.632.834.232.630.432.81.821.71.41.8median 20.8median 21.4median 19.7median 18.5median 20.82.32.62.61.92.334.834.634.535.534.833.732.839.938.633.739.839.540.648.239.832.434.835.935.632.431.633.935.53431.630.632.629.432.230.627.629.627.128.227.625.927.426.42725.925.826.325.524.325.823.923.823.323.223.923.223.523.322.823.22323.322.322.32323.523.121.521.523.522.121.620.620.222.120.520.419.819.220.522.122.51918.922.12422.219.618.42423.822.520.517.923.82120.618.2182120.620.618.217.620.619.419.218.417.519.418.918.718.217.918.918.818.918.41818.818.418.418.318.218.418.518.418.518.518.518.618.618.518.618.618.718.718.718.818.718.91918.818.718.918.918.918.918.918.919.119.119.119.119.132.632.231.130.732.61.81.71.51.51.8median 20.6median 20.6median 19median 18.8median 20.62.22.11.51.82.2hearing rangehide median Fan NoiseHP 17-ca0013ngHP 17-bs103ngLenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE

Temperature

Max. Load
 35.9 °C
97 F
37 °C
99 F
26.9 °C
80 F
 
 36.4 °C
98 F
35.9 °C
97 F
27 °C
81 F
 
 27.5 °C
82 F
26 °C
79 F
26 °C
79 F
 
Maximum: 37 °C = 99 F
Average: 31 °C = 88 F
26.5 °C
80 F
33.8 °C
93 F
29.6 °C
85 F
25.9 °C
79 F
31 °C
88 F
32 °C
90 F
25.4 °C
78 F
26.5 °C
80 F
27.7 °C
82 F
Maximum: 33.8 °C = 93 F
Average: 28.7 °C = 84 F
Power Supply (max.)  50 °C = 122 F | Room Temperature 24.1 °C = 75 F | FIRT 550-Pocket
(+) The average temperature for the upper side under maximal load is 31 °C / 88 F, compared to the average of 30.9 °C / 88 F for the devices in the class Multimedia.
(+) The maximum temperature on the upper side is 37 °C / 99 F, compared to the average of 36.5 °C / 98 F, ranging from 21.1 to 71 °C for the class Multimedia.
(+) The bottom heats up to a maximum of 33.8 °C / 93 F, compared to the average of 38.8 °C / 102 F
(+) In idle usage, the average temperature for the upper side is 25.4 °C / 78 F, compared to the device average of 30.9 °C / 88 F.
(+) The palmrests and touchpad are cooler than skin temperature with a maximum of 27.5 °C / 81.5 F and are therefore cool to the touch.
(±) The average temperature of the palmrest area of similar devices was 29.1 °C / 84.4 F (+1.6 °C / 2.9 F).

More performance equals higher temperatures, and accordingly our review unit’s keyboard surface heated up to a maximum of 37 °C (~99 °F) under load.

While surface temperatures were comparatively low, overall internal temperatures were much higher. When running Prime95, the CPU started to throttle pretty much immediately and occasionally reduced its clock speed to just 400 MHz. On average, clock speeds settled at between 1.3 and 1.4 GHz after a full hour. We were surprised by the fact that a 17-inch notebook was incapable of dissipating the heat appropriately.

Running our benchmarks immediately following the stress test yielded scores of around 10% less than before. The fans slowed down almost instantly, but 3DMark 11 failed to match its previous scores.

Idle: keyboard
Idle: keyboard
Idle: bottom
Idle: bottom
Last: keyboard
Last: keyboard
Last: bottom
Last: bottom
The 17-inch notebook ...
The 17-inch notebook ...
... struggled during our stress test.
... struggled during our stress test.

Speaker

dB(A) 0102030405060708090Deep BassMiddle BassHigh BassLower RangeMidsHigher MidsLower HighsMid HighsUpper HighsSuper Highs2032.935.732.9253235.8323132.337.532.3403131.531503236.6326328.927.628.98028.327.228.310025.925.125.912527.425.827.41603424.33420039.323.139.325045.322.745.33155521.75540065.920.765.950064.62064.663065.919.865.980065.418.665.410007218.272125074.417.974.4160068.517.868.5200068.317.568.3250069.817.669.8315072.217.972.2400064.61864.6500064.918.164.9630063.318.163.3800062.918.262.91000060.918.160.91250054.51854.51600049.118.149.1SPL80.830.680.8N45.11.345.1median 64.6median 18.2median 64.6Delta92931.231.931.233.33133.335.135.335.130.631.630.630.23730.22829.82827.125.627.126.926.126.927.624.227.63623.83645.12345.161.721.361.763.621.163.662.420.462.459.219.559.264.718.964.769.518.469.564.71864.766.317.966.363.817.663.866.217.366.268.317.768.366.517.766.563.117.863.161.718.161.767.818.367.862.618.462.66218.56261.818.661.867.718.667.777.730.477.742.81.442.8median 63.1median 18.5median 63.15.71.95.742.841.242.839.739.939.734.231.834.23731.73737.12937.137.631.137.63928.73939303940.425.540.442.325.442.347.324.447.349.723.249.753.122.453.153.121.553.156.720.256.762.419.962.466.31966.364.818.564.860.417.960.463.717.263.762.81762.864.216.864.262.316.862.363.616.763.661.316.661.355.716.755.761.416.861.463.516.763.562.216.762.257.616.857.674.630.174.6351.435median 61.3median 17.9median 61.35.83.25.8hearing rangehide median Pink NoiseHP 17-ca0013ngHP 17-bs103ngDell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
Frequency diagram (checkboxes can be checked and unchecked to compare devices)
HP 17-ca0013ng audio analysis

(±) | speaker loudness is average but good (74.35 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 26.8% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (11.3% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 3.5% away from median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (7.8% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2.8% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (4.9% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(±) | linearity of overall sound is average (21.9% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 74% of all tested devices in this class were better, 8% similar, 18% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 18%, worst was 41%
Compared to all devices tested
» 54% of all tested devices were better, 8% similar, 38% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 21%, worst was 53%

HP 17-bs103ng audio analysis

(-) | not very loud speakers (69.48 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 19.8% lower than median
(±) | linearity of bass is average (13.8% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 2.6% away from median
(±) | linearity of mids is average (7.3% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2.3% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (6.6% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(±) | linearity of overall sound is average (15.8% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 17% of all tested devices in this class were better, 3% similar, 80% worse
» The best had a delta of 8%, average was 21%, worst was 51%
Compared to all devices tested
» 20% of all tested devices were better, 4% similar, 76% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 21%, worst was 53%

Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357 audio analysis

(-) | not very loud speakers (66.29 dB)
Bass 100 - 315 Hz
(-) | nearly no bass - on average 15.9% lower than median
(+) | bass is linear (5.4% delta to prev. frequency)
Mids 400 - 2000 Hz
(+) | balanced mids - only 3.4% away from median
(+) | mids are linear (6.8% delta to prev. frequency)
Highs 2 - 16 kHz
(+) | balanced highs - only 2.1% away from median
(+) | highs are linear (6.7% delta to prev. frequency)
Overall 100 - 16.000 Hz
(+) | overall sound is linear (14.3% difference to median)
Compared to same class
» 22% of all tested devices in this class were better, 4% similar, 74% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 18%, worst was 41%
Compared to all devices tested
» 13% of all tested devices were better, 3% similar, 83% worse
» The best had a delta of 3%, average was 21%, worst was 53%

Power Consumption

Not only did our review unit get warmer than its predecessor, its power consumption also increased. When idle, the power meter read a surprisingly high 13.7 W. Under load, this peaked at a maximum of 57 W. Given that the CPU throttled under load, power consumption oscillated wildly between 29 and 57 W.

Power Consumption

Power Consumption
Off / Standbydarklight 0.24 / 0.42 Watt
Idledarkmidlight 7.6 / 12.9 / 13.7 Watt
Load midlight 44 / 57.1 Watt
 color bar
Key: min: dark, med: mid, max: light        Metrahit Energy

Battery Life

Given its more powerful components, its increased power consumption, and its identically dimensioned battery, it came as no surprise to us that battery life suffered as a consequence. The HP 17 lasted for just 3:45 hours in our Wi-Fi test, and was outperformed by its predecessor by a whopping two hours.

Battery Runtime
NBC WiFi Websurfing Battery Test 1.3
3h 45min
Battery Runtime - WiFi Websurfing 1.3
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357
368 min ∼100% +64%
HP 17-bs103ng
346 min ∼94% +54%
Acer Aspire E5-774G-78NA
322 min ∼88% +43%
HP 17-ca0013ng
225 min ∼61%
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE
224 min ∼61% 0%

Legend

 
HP 17-ca0013ng AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8, Toshiba KBG30ZMV256G
 
HP 17-bs103ng Intel Core i5-8250U, AMD Radeon 530, Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
 
Dell Inspiron 17-5770-0357 Intel Core i5-8250U, Intel UHD Graphics 620, SK hynix SC311 M.2
 
Lenovo Ideapad 320-17AST-80XW0013GE AMD E2-9000, AMD Radeon R2 (Stoney Ridge), Seagate Mobile HDD 1TB ST1000LM035
 
Acer Aspire E5-774G-78NA Intel Core i7-6500U, NVIDIA GeForce 940MX, Lite-On CV1-8B256

Pros

+ matte IPS panel
+ low fan noise
+ fast SSD
+ fast system performance
+ low temperatures under load

Cons

- disappointing battery life
- blue tint
- fan always on
- short warranty

Verdict

HP 17-ca0013n. Review unit courtesy of notebooksbilliger.de
HP 17-ca0013n. Review unit courtesy of notebooksbilliger.de

Overall, the new HP 17 is a step in the right direction. In most aspects the 17-inch large multimedia notebook has improved upon its predecessor. A USB-C port is still missing, however the slightly improved case left a good impression. We liked the new display in particular - this is the display that last year’s model should have already been equipped with: a panel that fits today’s requirements in terms of brightness and viewing angles. However, it did require calibration with a spectrophotometer, and the resulting ICC profile can be found for download in the box above. CPU and GPU performance have increased significantly, and so did overall system performance and versatility thanks to its fast SSD and large HDD. All this extra oomph comes at a price, and emissions and battery life have suffered accordingly. The CPU throttled under high load and the battery life was very poor.

The HP 17 is a decent multimedia notebook, aimed primarily at users looking for a large and mostly stationary desktop replacement.

Alternatives include the Acer Aspire E5-774G. Further details can also be found in last year's HP 17 review.

HP 17-ca0013ng - 10/22/2018 v6
Nino Richizzi

Chassis
75 / 98 → 77%
Keyboard
73%
Pointing Device
83%
Connectivity
44 / 81 → 54%
Weight
60 / 20-67 → 85%
Battery
74%
Display
86%
Games Performance
67 / 85 → 79%
Application Performance
86 / 92 → 93%
Temperature
92%
Noise
83 / 95 → 87%
Audio
50%
Camera
42 / 85 → 50%
Average
70%
79%
Multimedia - Weighted Average

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> Notebook / Laptop Reviews and News > Reviews > HP 17 (Ryzen 5 2500U, FHD, IPS, Vega 8) Review
Nino Richizzi, 2018-10-24 (Update: 2018-10-26)