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165 W vs. 105 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti: It matters most at higher resolutions

165 W vs. 105 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti: It matters most at higher resolutions
165 W vs. 105 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti: It matters most at higher resolutions
The 165 W GPU version is faster than the 105 W version by about 20 percent when at higher resolutions and graphical settings. Gamers who prefer 4K resolutions will want to keep a closer eye on the TGP ratings of gaming laptops as a result.

We recently got the chance to review both the MSI GS77 equipped with the Core i7-12700H CPU and 105 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti and the Razer Blade 17 equipped with the Core i7-12800H and 165 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti. With the Razer GPU running at significantly higher TGP levels of up to 57 percent over the MSI GPU, can users expect their performance deltas to be just as large?

Based on our time with both machines, users can expect the Blade 17 GPU to run at 20 percent faster frame rates albeit only when under GPU-bound conditions. In other words, users should run at higher resolutions above 1080p and with more settings cranked to maximum on the 165 W GeForce RTX 3080 Ti or else performance will be about the same as the 105 W version. We're able to observe this on demanding titles such as Final Fantasy XV, Witcher 3, Cyberpunk 2077, and Strange Brigade.

It's worth noting that the GS77 would consistently produce faster frame rates in most lower resolution scenarios before eventually falling behind the Blade 17 when the resolutions were set higher. This can be attributed to the Core i7-12700H in the MSI running faster than the Core i7-12800H in the Razer despite the Core i7-12800H being the faster processor on paper. As shown by our reviews of each system, the GS77 is able to maintain higher TDP levels for its CPU when compared to the "faster" CPU in the Razer which runs at lower clock rates and temperatures.

Users who want to squeeze as much performance when gaming at 1440p resolutions or higher will want to invest in a 165 W GPU laptop. Otherwise, a less expensive 105 W GPU laptop like the GS77 will perform somewhat similarly.

3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
32106 Points +14%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
28050 Points
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
13135 Points +22%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
10765 Points
2560x1440 Time Spy Score
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
12913 Points +18%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
10987 Points
2560x1440 Port Royal Graphics
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
8215 Points +18%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
6945 Points
3840x2160 Fire Strike Ultra Graphics
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
8259 Points +19%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
6948 Points
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12800H
42432 Points +13%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU, Intel Core i7-12700H
37535 Points
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark
1280x720 Lite Quality
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
196 fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
168 fps -14%
1920x1080 Standard Quality
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
152 fps +17%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
130 fps
1920x1080 High Quality
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
121 fps +20%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
101 fps
2560x1440 High Quality
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
93.3 fps +17%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
79.5 fps
The Witcher 3
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
459 (426min) fps +3%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
447.2 (405min) fps
1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
340.9 (304min) fps +14%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
298.8 (271min) fps
1920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
250.4 (236min) fps +21%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
206.8 (186min) fps
1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
124.6 (114min) fps +14%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
109.1 (101min) fps
GTA V
1024x768 Lowest Settings possible
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
186 (4.1min, 143P1) fps 0%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
186 (1.651min, 143P1) fps
1920x1080 Lowest Settings possible
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
186 (2.2min, 143P1) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
185 (2.52min, 143P1) fps -1%
1366x768 Normal/Off AF:4x
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
185 (1.861min, 125P1) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
182 (2.17min, 125P1) fps -2%
1920x1080 Normal/Off AF:4x
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
183 (2.43min, 143P1) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
181 (2.26min, 125P1) fps -1%
1920x1080 High/On (Advanced Graphics Off) AA:2xMSAA + FX AF:8x
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
176 (3.66min, 111P1) fps +1%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
175 (3.73min, 125P1) fps
1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
113 (5.67min, 71.4P1) fps 0%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
113 (9.58min, 76.9P1) fps
2560x1440 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
105 (7.72min, 66.7P1) fps +11%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
94.2 (8.01min, 62.5P1) fps
Far Cry 5
1280x720 Low Preset AA:T
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
190 (149min) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
171 (131min) fps -10%
1920x1080 Low Preset AA:T
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
161 (134min) fps
1920x1080 Medium Preset AA:T
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
149 (117min) fps +3%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
145 (117min) fps
1920x1080 High Preset AA:T
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
136 (120min) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
134 (100min) fps -1%
1920x1080 Ultra Preset AA:T
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
129 (108min) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
125 (90min) fps -3%
2560x1440 Ultra Preset AA:T
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
120 (93min) fps +19%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
101 (92min) fps
X-Plane 11.11
1280x720 low (fps_test=1)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
158 fps +8%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
146 fps
1920x1080 med (fps_test=2)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
139 fps +10%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
126 fps
1920x1080 high (fps_test=3)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
111 fps +8%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
103 fps
Dota 2 Reborn
1280x720 min (0/3) fastest
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
183 (161.3min) fps +1%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
182 (162.3min) fps
1366x768 med (1/3)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
171 (149.9min) fps +1%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
169 (148.6min) fps
1920x1080 high (2/3)
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
165 (145min) fps +2%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
161 (139.5min) fps
1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
157 (134.9min) fps +2%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
154 (134.5min) fps
Strange Brigade
1280x720 lowest AF:1
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
447 (167min, 330P1) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
431 (204min, 300P1) fps -4%
1920x1080 medium AA:medium AF:4
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
296 (19.6min, 232P1) fps +24%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
239 (86.1min, 180P1) fps
1920x1080 high AA:high AF:8
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
242 (82.8min, 169P1) fps +23%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
196 (111min, 145P1) fps
1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
215 (48.3min, 148P1) fps +21%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
177 (37.4min, 131P1) fps
2560x1440 ultra AA:ultra AF:16
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
158 (14.4min, 120P1) fps +25%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
126 (63.8min, 94.5P1) fps
Cyberpunk 2077 1.6
1920x1080 Low Preset
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
133.2 (30min) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
119.1 (50.8min) fps -11%
1920x1080 Medium Preset
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
113.6 (32.6min) fps
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
112.1 (59.6min) fps -1%
1920x1080 High Preset
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
106 (57.4min) fps +14%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
92.9 (25.4min) fps
1920x1080 Ultra Preset
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
106.5 (57.2min) fps +15%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
92.8 (28.7min) fps
2560x1440 Ultra Preset
Razer Blade 17 RTX 3080 Ti
Intel Core i7-12800H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
59.7 (26min) fps +20%
MSI Stealth GS77 12UHS-083US
Intel Core i7-12700H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Laptop GPU
49.7 (29.6min) fps

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Allen Ngo, 2022-04- 9 (Update: 2022-04- 8)