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This is why Nvidia TGP is important: Some GeForce RTX 3070 laptops are already outperforming the RTX 3080

Here we go again: Some GeForce RTX 3070 laptops are already outperforming the RTX 3080 (Image source: Nvidia)
Here we go again: Some GeForce RTX 3070 laptops are already outperforming the RTX 3080 (Image source: Nvidia)
Nvidia allows laptops to have 140 W GeForce RTX 3070 GPUs and 100 W GeForce RTX 3080 GPUs which can lead to some peculiarities in raw performance. Certain laptop models with the RTX 3080 are going to run consistently slower than models with the "weaker" RTX 3070 because of their wide overlapping TGP ranges.

GeForce RTX 30 laptops are now a few weeks old and more widely available than their desktop counterparts. We've tested eleven RTX 3070 and 3080 laptops thus far to have a pretty good idea of what the mobile RTX 3070 and 3080 series can offer if gamers were to purchase one at this point in time. Our comparison charts below show where these eleven systems rank relative to each other.

Based on what we've personally seen thus far, the performance difference between mobile RTX 3070 and mobile RTX 3080 is minor on average to the point where certain RTX 3070 laptops can outperform the RTX 3080. The Schenker XMG Neo 17 and its RTX 3070, for example, is consistently ahead of both the Gigabyte Aero 17 HDR YC and Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 with their RTX 3080 GPUs by at least 10 percent each. The delta can be partly explained by their differing TGP targets or support for Resizable BAR; the RTX 3070 in the Schenker is rated for 140 W while the RTX 3080 GPUs in the Gigabyte and Asus are only 105 W and 100 W, respectively.

The slowest laptop of the bunch is the Asus TUF Dash F15 FX516PR and its 85 W GeForce RTX 3070 which is about 20 to 30 percent slower than the 140 W version in the Schenker XMG Neo 17. If you're in the market for a new RTX 3070 laptop, then you might want to avoid the TUF Dash and go with the far superior (and pricier) ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE instead. Older GeForce RTX 2080 laptops might also be a better buy at that point due to inevitable sales for potentially higher performance-per-dollar. This just goes to show that users should absolutely check the TGP ratings of any given GeForce RTX 30 laptop before purchasing to get a rough idea of how the system will perform when running games.

We fully expect larger RTX 3070 and 3080 laptops to become available later this year that should offer higher performance on paper. Thick and beefy gaming laptops like the Dell Alienware Area 51m, Asus ROG G703, or MSI GT76 Titan are yet to launch with GeForce RTX 30 options. Their immense size and cooling potential should allow for higher TGP targets than many of these early thin-and-light models that are already in the market. We'll certainly revisit this comparison as soon as we can test more systems firsthand.

3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
28493 Points +8%
SCHENKER XMG Neo 17 (Early 2021, RTX 3070, 5800H)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R7 5800H
27968 Points +6%
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
27764 Points +5%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (16455 - 32366, n=45)
27464 Points +4%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
26486 Points
Asus ROG Strix G15 G513QR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
25509 Points -4%
Gigabyte Aero 17 HDR YC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i9-10980HK
25129 Points -5%
Aorus 15G XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
24648 Points -7%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (7178 - 29128, n=52)
24302 Points -8%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
23893 Points -10%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA503Q
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HS
22826 Points -14%
Asus TUF Dash F15 FX516PR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-11370H
20703 Points -22%
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
11407 Points +5%
SCHENKER XMG Neo 17 (Early 2021, RTX 3070, 5800H)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R7 5800H
10898 Points 0%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
10898 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (6407 - 13210, n=44)
10695 Points -2%
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
10500 Points -4%
Asus ROG Strix G15 G513QR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
10148 Points -7%
Gigabyte Aero 17 HDR YC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i9-10980HK
9646 Points -11%
Aorus 15G XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
9448 Points -13%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA503Q
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HS
9439 Points -13%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (2644 - 11019, n=53)
9300 Points -15%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
9131 Points -16%
Asus TUF Dash F15 FX516PR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-11370H
7888 Points -28%
2560x1440 Time Spy Score
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
11194 Points +4%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
10777 Points
SCHENKER XMG Neo 17 (Early 2021, RTX 3070, 5800H)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R7 5800H
10679 Points -1%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (6499 - 13067, n=44)
10438 Points -3%
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
10270 Points -5%
Asus ROG Strix G15 G513QR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
9933 Points -8%
Gigabyte Aero 17 HDR YC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i9-10980HK
9567 Points -11%
Aorus 15G XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
9408 Points -13%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA503Q
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HS
9391 Points -13%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (2952 - 10872, n=54)
9246 Points -14%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
9140 Points -15%
Asus TUF Dash F15 FX516PR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-11370H
7358 Points -32%
2560x1440 Port Royal Graphics
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
6934 Points +4%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
6686 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (5338 - 8032, n=26)
6675 Points 0%
SCHENKER XMG Neo 17 (Early 2021, RTX 3070, 5800H)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R7 5800H
6427 Points -4%
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
6275 Points -6%
Gigabyte Aero 17 HDR YC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i9-10980HK
6094 Points -9%
Asus ROG Zephyrus G15 GA503Q
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HS
5914 Points -12%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (1640 - 6542, n=39)
5689 Points -15%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
5481 Points -18%
Asus TUF Dash F15 FX516PR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-11370H
4725 Points -29%
3840x2160 Fire Strike Ultra Graphics
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
7435 Points +8%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (5859 - 8293, n=24)
7142 Points +4%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
6865 Points
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
6732 Points -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (5141 - 6820, n=24)
6161 Points -10%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
5879 Points -14%
3DMark 11
1280x720 Performance GPU
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
38532 Points +4%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (31288 - 43744, n=39)
38345 Points +3%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
37171 Points
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
36675 Points -1%
Asus ROG Strix G15 G513QR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
33862 Points -9%
Aorus 15G XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
32623 Points -12%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (12535 - 38275, n=54)
32331 Points -13%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
31092 Points -16%
1280x720 Performance Combined
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, i7-10875H
17622 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (10637 - 20233, n=38)
16622 Points -6%
Asus ROG Zephyrus Duo 15 SE GX551QS
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
15985 Points -9%
MSI GS66 Stealth 10UG
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
15796 Points -10%
Aorus 15G XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
15610 Points -11%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (3715 - 22517, n=53)
15516 Points -12%
Aorus 15P XC
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, i7-10870H
15054 Points -15%
Asus ROG Strix G15 G513QR
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU, R9 5900HX
14217 Points -19%
GTA V
1920x1080 Lowest Settings possible
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
182 (3.86min, 143P1 - 271max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (173 - 186, n=27)
180.2 fps -1%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (98 - 186, n=36)
175 fps -4%
1920x1080 Normal/Off AF:4x
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (160 - 182, n=28)
173.5 fps 0%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
173 (3.66min, 125P1 - 328max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (94.3 - 186.2, n=38)
169.2 fps -2%
1920x1080 High/On (Advanced Graphics Off) AA:2xMSAA + FX AF:8x
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
164 (6.29min, 111P1 - 267max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (137 - 176, n=29)
162.4 fps -1%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (58.2 - 181.4, n=38)
153.2 fps -7%
1920x1080 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
99.5 (5.74min, 71.4P1 - 185max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (68.6 - 112, n=33)
97.2 fps -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (21.7 - 125.8, n=50)
91 fps -9%
2560x1440 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
92.5 (4.54min, 62.5P1 - 166max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (82.2 - 99.1, n=11)
91 fps -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (70.8 - 97.1, n=19)
82.9 fps -10%
3840x2160 Highest Settings possible AA:4xMSAA + FX AF:16x
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
53.8 (4.03min, 37P1 - 94.6max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (32.4 - 57.8, n=8)
49.7 fps -8%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (39.8 - 50.8, n=5)
46.4 fps -14%
3840x2160 High/On (Advanced Graphics Off) AA:FX AF:8x
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
106 (9.14min, 76.9P1 - 197max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (64.8 - 112, n=10)
91.9 fps -13%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (74.3 - 100.8, n=5)
83.8 fps -21%
The Witcher 3
1024x768 Low Graphics & Postprocessing
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
368 (320min - 419max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (209 - 672, n=31)
360 fps -2%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (151 - 465, n=27)
358 fps -3%
1366x768 Medium Graphics & Postprocessing
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (236 - 374, n=24)
290 fps 0%
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
288.6 (275min - 301max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (169.6 - 339, n=31)
261 fps -10%
1920x1080 High Graphics & Postprocessing (Nvidia HairWorks Off)
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
208.1 (190min - 220max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (149 - 242, n=31)
190.4 fps -9%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (122.1 - 207, n=34)
168 fps -19%
1920x1080 Ultra Graphics & Postprocessing (HBAO+)
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
108.3 (98min - 117max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (85.1 - 123, n=39)
105.2 fps -3%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (34.9 - 109, n=52)
91.8 fps -15%
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark
1920x1080 High Quality
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
109 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (55.5 - 115, n=33)
98.9 fps -9%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (27.9 - 107, n=49)
86.4 fps -21%
3840x2160 High Quality
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
49.3 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (28.4 - 53.2, n=15)
43.4 fps -12%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (36.2 - 46.9, n=8)
42.3 fps -14%
2560x1440 High Quality
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
84.3 fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (61.6 - 90.3, n=17)
79.4 fps -6%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (19.8 - 79.9, n=25)
67.3 fps -20%
Dota 2 Reborn
1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
134 (115.1min) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (98 - 156, n=44)
126.1 fps -6%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (26.9 - 163.9, n=58)
120.7 fps -10%
3840x2160 ultra (3/3) best looking
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
128 (107.9min) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (79.3 - 127.7, n=12)
108.6 fps -15%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (55.2 - 128, n=16)
105.1 fps -18%
Strange Brigade
1920x1080 ultra AA:ultra AF:16
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
197 (81.6min, 149P1 - 298max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (117 - 219, n=33)
184 fps -7%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (36.2 - 194, n=46)
159 fps -19%
3840x2160 ultra AA:ultra AF:16
Razer Blade Pro 17 2021 (QHD Touch)
Intel Core i7-10875H, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
84.1 (69.5min, 72.1P1 - 112max) fps
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Laptop GPU
  (55.9 - 91.7, n=11)
77.6 fps -8%
Average NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU
  (61.1 - 78.6, n=6)
71.2 fps -15%

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Allen Ngo, 2021-02-17 (Update: 2021-02-17)