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Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor

Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor
Lenovo laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run 58 percent faster than HP laptops with the exact same processor
An HP facepalm. Of the four laptops we've tested so far with AMD's latest Zen+ CPU, the two HP models perform noticeably slower than the two Lenovo models because of better temperature and clock rate management on the latter systems according to our own findings.

The Zen+ Ryzen 7 3700U is designed to be a minor stopgap before the more significant Zen 2 series for laptops. Thus, performance is only marginally better than the Zen Ryzen 7 2700U much like how the Intel Whiskey Lake-U Core i7-8565U is only marginally better than the Kaby Lake-R Core i7-8550U. To AMD, however, this is perhaps "good enough" as the Ryzen 7 3700U is able to trade blows with the Core i7-8565U quite well in most scenarios.

The key word here is "most" because some laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U run much slower than others even when they are all equipped with the same AMD CPU. Having reviewed four different Ryzen 7 3700U laptops thus far, we've discovered that the HP 14 and HP Envy x360 13 run significantly slower than the Lenovo ThinkPad E595 and Lenovo IdeaPad S540. While small differences in performance are expected between OEMs, the differences here are much wider than anticipated at almost 60 percent after accounting for throttling when jumping from the HP 14 to the ThinkPad E595. Our CineBench R15 loop test below illustrates this gap very clearly.

Looking closely at the core clock rates of the HP 14 and ThinkPad E595 reveals the cause of the enormous discrepancy. When stressing the HP with Prime95 and FurMark, clock rates would throttle to the 0.6 GHz to 1.4 GHz range compared to a steady 2.8 GHz on the Lenovo under similar conditions. Lenovo's implementation of the same AMD CPU is far superior at maintaining decent clock rates than both HP systems.

It's important to keep in mind that our comparison is only limited to two HP laptops and two Lenovo laptops. Pricier HP laptops with the Ryzen 7 3700U like the EliteBook 735 G6 may fare better than the relatively inexpensive HP 14 or Envy x360 13. Nonetheless, HP isn't doing itself any favors by debuting the Ryzen 7 3700U so poorly on its own devices when we know that AMD's latest processor is capable of much more.

See our reviews on the AMD-powered HP 14, HP Envy x360 13, and Lenovo IdeaPad S540 for more details. Our review on the ThinkPad E595 will be coming soon.

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Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø640 (634.34-662.55)
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø684 (680.39-687.17)
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø440 (425.31-674.59)
HP 14-dk0008ng AMD Ryzen 7 3700U, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U: Ø447 (422.06-536.95)
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29 Intel Core i7-8565U, Intel Core i7-8565U: Ø522 (514.22-659.49)
Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U
177 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (138.3 - 193, n=51)
172.5 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
146 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
144 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
139 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
127 Points
CPU Multi 64Bit
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
683 (680.39min - 687.17max) Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
676 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
675 (643.4min - 674.64max) Points
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U
659 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (452 - 815, n=52)
612 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
537 Points
Cinebench R10
Rendering Single 32Bit
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (2682 - 8906, n=16)
6571 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4776 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4045 Points
Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18041 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (13806 - 23118, n=16)
17608 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
12881 Points
Cinebench R20
CPU (Single Core)
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (342 - 472, n=20)
409 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
368 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
366 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
343 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
285 Points
CPU (Multi Core)
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1560 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1506 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (954 - 1645, n=20)
1257 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1110 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1047 Points
Geekbench 3
32 Bit Multi-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (10521 - 13703, n=12)
12071 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10238 Points
32 Bit Single-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (3340 - 4820, n=12)
3882 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3003 Points
Geekbench 4.4
64 Bit Multi-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (8142 - 16968, n=30)
14179 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
11107 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10997 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
10087 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
8907 Points
64 Bit Single-Core Score
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (2357 - 5547, n=30)
5053 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4009 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3941 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3746 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3445 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
1405 ms *
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1320 ms *
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (EDGE: 44.17763.1.0)
1299 ms *
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge: 44.17763.1.0)
1285 ms *
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (730 - 2622, n=43)
1096 ms *
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
1027 ms *
Octane V2 - Total Score
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
34943 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (13935 - 49795, n=42)
34603 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge: 44.17763.1.0)
27500 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (EDGE: 44.17763.1.0)
27490 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
26038 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
23657 Points
Speedometer 2.0 - Result
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (55.5 - 62.5, n=5)
59.7 runs/min
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
35.3 runs/min
WebXPRT 3 - Overall
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (176 - 239, n=5)
208 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
152 Points
JetStream 1.1 - Total Score
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
Intel Core i7-8565U (Edge 44.17763.1.0)
259.9 Points
Average Intel Core i7-8565U
  (107.6 - 277, n=37)
238 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (Edge 44)
177 Points

* ... smaller is better

3DMark
1280x720 Cloud Gate Standard Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
22615 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (13805 - 23863, n=25)
21491 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18581 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
18378 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
14056 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
13891 Points
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
3664 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (2939 - 3885, n=29)
3531 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2581 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2568 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
2025 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
1950 Points
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
1130 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (881 - 1169, n=22)
1070 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
779 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
578 Points
3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance GPU
Huawei MateBook 14 KLV-W29
NVIDIA GeForce MX250, Intel Core i7-8565U
4459 Points
Average NVIDIA GeForce MX250
  (3585 - 4942, n=29)
4404 Points
HP 14-dk0008ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4056 Points
HP Envy x360 13-ar0601ng
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
4056 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad S540-14API
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3968 Points
Lenovo ThinkPad E595-20NF0000GE
AMD Radeon RX Vega 10, AMD Ryzen 7 3700U
3287 Points
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Allen Ngo, 2019-07-12 (Update: 2019-07-12)