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Zen 3 slower than Zen 2: first benchmarks show the AMD Ryzen 7 5700U outperforming the Ryzen 7 5800U in most scenarios

Zen 3 slower than Zen 2: first benchmarks show the AMD Ryzen 7 5700U outperforming the Ryzen 7 5800U in most scenarios
Zen 3 slower than Zen 2: first benchmarks show the AMD Ryzen 7 5700U outperforming the Ryzen 7 5800U in most scenarios
Even though the Ryzen 7 5700U launched day and date with the Ryzen 7 5800U, it's still based on AMD's older Zen 2 architecture. However, benchmarks and real-world games show that this difference won't really matter for most users.

The Ryzen 7 5800U is boasted as being the fastest CPU in AMD's current U-series lineup. It also holds the distinction of being a "proper" Zen 3 Cezanne processor in contrast to the Ryzen 7 5700U which is still based on last year's Zen 2 Lucienne architecture.

After having tested a small handful of retail laptops carrying the Ryzen 7 5700U and Ryzen 7 5800U, we've discovered that the performance differences between the two CPUs are actually very minor despite their generational differences in architecture. The Ryzen 7 5800U is just 100 MHz faster on paper (1.9 - 4.4 GHz vs. 1.8 - 4.2 GHz) meaning any differences will be mostly constrained by the Turbo potential and cooling solution of the laptop in question.

Our benchmarks below compare the three Ryzen 7 5700U laptops currently in our database to the first Ryzen 7 5800U laptop in the market. In multi-threaded loads, our Ryzen 7 5800U laptop often falls behind our fastest Ryzen 7 5700U laptop by about 10 to 15 percent even after accounting for throttling on all models. Conversely, the Ryzen 7 5800U is faster than the Ryzen 7 5700U in single-threaded operations by about 15 to 20 percent likely owing to the gen-to-gen IPC improvements over Zen 2.

As for the integrated Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics, the Ryzen 7 5800U is again consistently behind our HP Envy x360 15 system with the "slower" Ryzen 7 5700U by just a few percentage points.

An important factor to keep in mind for this comparison is that our fastest Ryzen 7 5700U laptop just so happens to be the largest at 15.6-inches compared to the 13.3-inch Ryzen 7 5800U laptop. A larger form factor would have almost certainly given the Ryzen 7 5800U a small performance boost, but the differences between it and the Ryzen 7 5700U would have likely still been minor regardless.

Cinebench R20: CPU (Multi Core) | CPU (Single Core)
Cinebench R23: Multi Core | Single Core
Cinebench R15: CPU Multi 64Bit | CPU Single 64Bit
Blender: v2.79 BMW27 CPU
7-Zip 18.03: 7z b 4 -mmt1 | 7z b 4
Geekbench 5.5: Single-Core | Multi-Core
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2: 4k Preset
LibreOffice : 20 Documents To PDF
R Benchmark 2.5: Overall mean
Cinebench R20 / CPU (Multi Core)
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
3877 Points +15%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
3364 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
3303 Points -2%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
2765 Points -18%
Cinebench R20 / CPU (Single Core)
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
555 Points +16%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
493 Points +3%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
492 Points +3%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
480 Points
Cinebench R23 / Multi Core
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
10139 (8794.52min - 10139.3max) Points +6%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
9576 (8763.45min - 9575.51max) Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
8154 Points -15%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
7697 Points -20%
Cinebench R23 / Single Core
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
1427 Points +13%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1263 Points 0%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1261 Points 0%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1259 Points
Cinebench R15 / CPU Multi 64Bit
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
1522 Points +2%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1485 (1359.3min - 1484.95max) Points
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1478 (1460.71min - 1478.25max) Points 0%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1405 (1162.76min - 1405.04max) Points -5%
Cinebench R15 / CPU Single 64Bit
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
227 Points +23%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
189 Points +3%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
185 Points +1%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
184 Points
Blender / v2.79 BMW27 CPU
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
401.6 Seconds * -27%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
372.7 Seconds * -18%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
321 Seconds * -2%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
315 Seconds *
7-Zip 18.03 / 7z b 4 -mmt1
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
5359 MIPS +16%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
4618 MIPS
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
4557 MIPS -1%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
4476 MIPS -3%
7-Zip 18.03 / 7z b 4
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
46127 MIPS
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
41574 MIPS -10%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
41347 MIPS -10%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
35971 MIPS -22%
Geekbench 5.5 / Single-Core
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
1450 Points +20%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1204 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1186 Points -1%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
1181 Points -2%
Geekbench 5.5 / Multi-Core
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
7326 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
7026 Points -4%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
6733 Points -8%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
6630 Points -10%
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 / 4k Preset
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
11.6 fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
10.3 fps -11%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
10.2 fps -12%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
8.61 fps -26%
LibreOffice / 20 Documents To PDF
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
59.7 s * -2%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
58.8 s * -1%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
58.5 s *
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
54.8 s * +6%
R Benchmark 2.5 / Overall mean
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
0.601 sec * -6%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
0.586 sec * -3%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U
0.567 sec *
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U
0.544 sec * +4%

* ... smaller is better

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HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr AMD Ryzen 7 5700U; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø1445 (1359.3-1484.95)
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS AMD Ryzen 7 5700U; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø1468 (1460.71-1478.25)
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA AMD Ryzen 7 5700U; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø1197 (1162.76-1405.04)
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S AMD Ryzen 7 5800U; CPU Multi 64Bit: Ø1209 (1163.3-1526.78)
3DMark
1920x1080 Fire Strike Graphics
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
4086 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5800U
3861 Points -6%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
3751 Points -8%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
3561 Points -13%
2560x1440 Time Spy Graphics
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1301 Points
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1136 Points -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1128 Points -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5800U
1082 Points -17%
2560x1440 Time Spy Score
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1481 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1282 Points -13%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
1273 Points -14%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5800U
1229 Points -17%
3DMark 11
1280x720 Performance GPU
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
6366 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5800U
5870 Points -8%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
5710 Points -10%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
5373 Points -16%
1280x720 Performance Combined
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
4464 Points
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5800U
4050 Points -9%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
3909 Points -12%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000), R7 5700U
3521 Points -21%
Final Fantasy XV Benchmark
1280x720 Lite Quality
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
39.2 fps
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
34.9 fps -11%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
34.1 fps -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
32.5 fps -17%
1920x1080 Standard Quality
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
19.9 fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
17.5 fps -12%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
17.4 fps -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
17.2 fps -14%
1920x1080 High Quality
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
13.5 fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
12 fps -11%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
11.7 fps -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
11.6 fps -14%
Dota 2 Reborn
1280x720 min (0/3) fastest
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
111.1 (95.5min) fps +10%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
101 (90.2min) fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
97.2 (86.8min) fps -4%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
94.3 (81.1min) fps -7%
1366x768 med (1/3)
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
87.9 (72.3min) fps +5%
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
83.9 (72.3min) fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
75.9 (66.3min) fps -10%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
75.6 (61.6min) fps -10%
1920x1080 high (2/3)
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
56.4 (49.8min) fps
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
53 (46.4min) fps -6%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
49.1 (44.2min) fps -13%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
48.1 (42.4min) fps -15%
1920x1080 ultra (3/3) best looking
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
53.3 (47.9min) fps
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
48.3 (42.5min) fps -9%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
46.1 (42min) fps -14%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
45.7 (40.1min) fps -14%
X-Plane 11.11
1280x720 low (fps_test=1)
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
45.1 fps
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
44.7 fps -1%
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
41.7 fps -8%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
37.5 fps -17%
1920x1080 med (fps_test=2)
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
37.1 fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
34 fps -8%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
33.9 fps -9%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
30.7 fps -17%
1920x1080 high (fps_test=3)
HP Envy x360 15-eu0097nr
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
33 fps
Lenovo IdeaPad Flex 5 14ALC05 82HU002YUS
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
31.5 fps -5%
Asus ZenBook 13 UM325S
AMD Ryzen 7 5800U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
29.9 fps -9%
Asus ZenBook 13 OLED UM325UA
AMD Ryzen 7 5700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 4000/5000)
26.6 fps -19%

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Allen Ngo, 2021-05-31 (Update: 2021-05-30)