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Update: Now up to 4.9 GHz | AMD Ryzen 9 4950X / 5950X 16C/32T Zen 3 Vermeer's boost clock may touch the 5 GHz mark; AMD could skip 4000 series naming for desktop

AMD may be close to hitting the 5 GHz mark with Zen 3 Vermeer. (Image Source: AMD3D)
AMD may be close to hitting the 5 GHz mark with Zen 3 Vermeer. (Image Source: AMD3D)
Igor's Lab has revealed a new OPN ID indicating a 3.5 GHz base clock and 4.8 GHz boost clock for a 16-core 32-thread Zen 3 Vermeer engineering sample. This is a 100 MHz higher boost than the current Ryzen 9 3950X, and AMD may be able to manage speeds closer to the 5 GHz mark in the retail units. It is also being rumored that AMD may change the branding to Ryzen 5000 to avoid confusion with existing Ryzen 4000 Renoir APUs for mobile and desktop. Update: Two more OPNs discovered

Update:

Igor's Lab has just uncovered two more OPNs from the B0 stepping pertaining to the 16C/32T Ryzen 9 processor. OPN "100-000000061-06_ 49/37 _Y" indicates a boost speed up to 4.9 GHz and a base clock of 3.9 GHz. This makes makes this Zen 3 part 200 MHz and 400 MHz faster in boost and base clocks, respectively compared to the Ryzen 9 3950X. AMD is now just a 100 MHz short of hitting the 5 GHz boost mark.

Another OPN "100-000000065-04_ 46/36 _Y" indicates a 4.6 GHz boost and a 3.6 GHz base. This could probably be a non-X variant.

Also being reported is that Zen 3 Vermeer will see the addition of two new x86 instructions, ERMS (Enhanced Repeat Move String) and FSRM (Fast Short Repeat Move String), which are already part of Intel CPUs. Addition of these instructions should help with even more increased performance for short and very short operations.

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AMD recently confirmed that Zen 3 Vermeer processors are well on their way later this year. Though AMD hasn't committed to a launch date yet, we expect Zen 3 parts to launch some time around September (Q3 2020). Not much is known about the specifications of the processors themselves, but Igor's Lab has managed to get some information about the base and boost clocks of a 16-core 32-thread (16C/32T) Zen 3 engineering sample.

Igor's source mentions an Orderable Part Number (OPN) ID "100-000000059-52_ 48/35 _ Y" for a 16C/32T engineering sample. From this OPN ID, we can deduce that this Zen 3 part will have a boost clock of 4.8 GHz and a base clock of 3.5 GHz — this is 100 MHz higher than the base clock of the Ryzen 9 3950X (3.5 GHz base and 4.70 GHz boost).

Previously, back in June, Igor provided information about two Zen 3 Vermeer 16C/32T OPNs in the A0 stepping — "100-000000059-14_46 / 37_Y" and "100-000000059-15_46 / 37_N". He also confirmed that Vermeer CPUs are already in B0 stepping and ready for mass production soon. Going by these OPNs, it appears that AMD has managed to achieve quite a decent boost going from A0 to B0; further increase in clocks may still be possible with retail units coming close to the 5 GHz mark.

Igor's Lab also notes that Zen 3 will include a per-core voltage adjustment feature similar to what is seen with Intel Comet Lake-S chips. References to this can be found in AMD's latest ComboAM4v2PI 1.0.6.0 AGESA changelog, which apparently has reached version 8 internally. The changelog indicates that Vermeer would support per-core voltage adjustment. References to Renoir and Cezanne can also be seen here. It is not clear whether per-core voltage adjustment can possibly be backported to Zen 2 Matisse as well.

Finally, AMD may choose to skip the Ryzen 4000 branding for Zen 3 in favor of Ryzen 5000 as rumored by wjm47196 on the Chiphell forums. This does makes sense as the Ryzen 4000 branding is currently being used for mobile U and H series and desktop G series Renoir APUs. Using the same nomenclature for desktops may potentially create confusion for consumers.

AMD AGESA ComboAM4v2PI 1.0.6.0 changelog. (Image Source: Igor's Lab)
AMD AGESA ComboAM4v2PI 1.0.6.0 changelog. (Image Source: Igor's Lab)

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Vaidyanathan Subramaniam, 2020-08- 7 (Update: 2020-08- 7)
Vaidyanathan Subramaniam
I am a cell and molecular biologist and computers have been an integral part of my life ever since I laid my hands on my first PC which was based on an Intel Celeron 266 MHz processor, 16 MB RAM and a modest 2 GB hard disk. Since then, I’ve seen my passion for technology evolve with the times. From traditional floppy based storage and running DOS commands for every other task, to the connected cloud and shared social experiences we take for granted today, I consider myself fortunate to have witnessed a sea change in the technology landscape. I honestly feel that the best is yet to come, when things like AI and cloud computing mature further. When I am not out finding the next big cure for cancer, I read and write about a lot of technology related stuff or go about ripping and re-assembling PCs and laptops.