Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 vs Qualcomm Snapdragon 865
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2
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The Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 Mobile Platform is a high-end SoC for smartphones that was introduced in late 2022 and manufactured in 4 nm at TSMC (N4P). It integrates four different CPU clusters. A fast and big prime core based on the ARM Cortex-X3 architecture and clocked at up to 3.2 GHz for 64 bit applications. Two more ARM Cortex-A715 based performance cores clocked at up to 2.8 GHz (also only for 64 bit apps). Two more Cortex-A710 performance cores at up to 2.8 GHz that can also be used for older apps and three efficiency cores (ARM Cortex-A510 with up to 2 GHz). All cores can use the shared 8 MB level 3 cache.
Thanks to the new architecture and high clock rates, the SD 8 Gen 2 is the fastest mobile CPU for Android based devices and is only topped by current Apple SoCs like the Apple A16 (see benchmarks below).
The chip also integrates a Hexagon accelerator for AI workloads (tensor, scalar and vector). Qualcomm states that its one of the first chips with INT4 support and up to 4.35x performance compared to the previous generation.
The 18-Bit-Spectra ISP is able to process photos with up to 200 MP and work with videos up to 8k30 (including 10-bit, HDR10+, HLG and Dolby Vision).
A big improvement of the Snapdragon 8 G2 is the integrated Adreno 740 GPU, that now supports Hardware Raytracing and tops even the iGPU in the Apple A16.
The integrated AI Engine can offer up to 4x faster AI performance thanks to the bigger Tensor engine. The 18-Bit-Spectra-ISP also saw some big improvements and is now called Snapdragon Sight.
The integrated Adreno 730 offers a 30% graphics boost compared to the previous Adreno 660.
The integrated Snapdragon X70 5G modem is also new as is the FastConnect 7800 modem with Wi-Fi 7 and Bluetooth 5.3 support.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 865
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The Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 Mobile Platform is a high-end smartphone and tablet SoC that Qualcomm announced in December 2019. The SoC integrates a fast ‘Prime Core’ that clocks up to 2.84 GHz and three further fast ARM Cortex-A77 performance cores, which can reach up to 2.42 GHz. These are complemented by four power-saving ARM Cortex-A55 cores that clock up to a maximum of 1.8 GHz. The difference to the older Snapdragon 855 is the switch from Cortex-A76 to the faster Cortex-A77 architecture. The clock speeds stay the same.
Therefore, the Snapdragon 865 takes the top spot in mobile processors for Android based systems. In some multi-core workloads, the SD865 can even perform on par with the Apple A13 SoC. Single thread, however is still a strong suit of the Apple SoCs.
Compared to the previous generations, the Snapdragon 865 does not integrate an LTE modem anymore, but has to be paired with the new X55 5G modem, that also supports LTE Cat 24/22. The Wi-Fi module however is still integrated and called FastConnect 6800 with support for Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax) and 8x8 MU-MIMU and 60 GHz 802.11ay with up to 10 Gbps. Bluetooth 5.1 is also supported including aptX Adaptive.
The integrated GPU is now called Adreno 650 and should offer 20% more performance than the Adreno 640 in the Snapdragon 855.
The on board Hexagon 698 DSP now offers an improved KI performance of up to 15 TOPS (up from 7 TOPS in the 855) and still uses a combination of CPU, GPU, HVX and Tensor cores. The Spectra 480 ISP is now also significantly faster. The integrated Computer Vision Engine (CV-ISP) now supports Dolby Vision, 8K videos and 200 megapixel photos.
The built-in memory controller now supports LPDDR5 with up to 2,750 MHz and LPDDR4X with 2,133 MHz.
The Snapdragon 865 is manufactured at TSMC in the new improved 7nm process (N7P, DUV-based). The process offers a 7% higher performance or 10% less power consumption compared to the old N7 process.
| Model | Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 | Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Codename | Cortex-X3 / A715 / A710 / A510 (Kryo) | Cortex-A77 / A55 (Kryo 585) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Series | Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 | Qualcomm Snapdragon | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Series: Snapdragon Cortex-A77 / A55 (Kryo 585) |
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| Clock | 2000 - 3200 MHz | 2420 - 2840 MHz | ||||||||||||||||||||
| L3 Cache | 8 MB | 4 MB | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Cores / Threads | 8 / 8 1 x 3.2 GHz ARM Cortex-X3 2 x 2.8 GHz ARM Cortex-A715 2 x 2.8 GHz ARM Cortex-A710 3 x 2.0 GHz ARM Cortex-A510 | 8 / 8 | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Technology | 4 nm | 7 nm | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Features | Adreno GPU, Spectra ISP, Hexagon, X70 5G Modem, FastConnect 7800 Wi-Fi 7, LPDDR5x 4200 MHz Memory Controller | Adreno 650 GPU, Spectra 480 ISP, LPDDR5 2750 MHz / LPDDR4X 2133 MHz Memory Controller | ||||||||||||||||||||
| iGPU | Qualcomm Adreno 740 | Qualcomm Adreno 650 (250 - 587 MHz) | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Architecture | ARM v9 | ARM | ||||||||||||||||||||
| Announced | ||||||||||||||||||||||
| Manufacturer | www.qualcomm.com | |||||||||||||||||||||
| L1 Cache | 1 MB | |||||||||||||||||||||
| L2 Cache | 1.8 MB | |||||||||||||||||||||
| TDP | 5 Watt |
Benchmarks
Average Benchmarks Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 → 100% n=13
Average Benchmarks Qualcomm Snapdragon 865 → 58% n=13
- Average benchmark values for this graphics card* Smaller numbers mean a higher performance
1 This benchmark is not used for the average calculation
