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Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (GTX 960M, FHD) Notebook Review

Nino Ricchizzi (translated by Martina Osztovits), 07/04/2015

Lenovo created a balanced bundle. Recently, the Y50-70 proved to be a good entry into the mobile gaming world. Now, the manufacturer put even more performance into the slim case and improved the bundle. The most important change: Lenovo replaced the predecessor's poor TN display with a good IPS panel with 1080p resolution and matte surface.

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In last year's review, the Y50-70 appeared to be slim, elegant and fast to us. This year brought three hardware updates, including a slightly faster Intel Core i7-4710HQ and a 256 GB SSD instead of an SSHD combination. The biggest change is the Nvidia GeForce GTX 960M, which makes the Y50-70 very powerful. With this combination, the manufacturer wants to create a mixture of gaming and multimedia notebook. Lenovo is selling our model for about 1300 Euros (~$1438). Further models are listed on the manufacturer's site. Probably the most important options are the slightly faster Intel Core i7-4720HQ, a bigger SSD capacity of 512 GB and a high-res UHD display. The prices of the new models start from 1000 Euros (~$1106). The top model is significantly more expensive at 1500 Euros (~$1659). Please also check the following relevant reviews of the Lenovo Y50:

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59441231) Review, Model 2015 with GTX 960M and 4K display
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712) Review, Model 2014 with GTX 860M and 4K display
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 Review, Model 2014 with GTX 860M and FHD display

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
Processor
Intel Core i7-4710HQ 2.5 GHz (Intel Core i7), 4 Kerne, TDP: 47 W
Graphics adapter
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M - 4096 MB, Core: 1100 MHz, Memory: 1250 MHz, nvlddmkm 9.18.13.4505 (ForceWare 345.05), NVIDIA Optimus
Memory
16384 MB 
, dual channel, 2/2 RAM slots used, PS3-12800 DDR SDRAM SK Hynix HMT74GS6NFR8A-PB
Display
15.6 inch 16:9, 1920x1080 pixel, LG Philips LGD044F, IPS
Mainboard
Intel HM87 (Lynx Point)
Storage
Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP, 256 GB 
Soundcard
Intel Lynx Point PCH - High Definition Audio Controller
Connections
1 USB 2.0, 2 USB 3.0 / 3.1 Gen1, 1 HDMI, 1 Kensington Lock, Audio Connections: 1x mic-in, 1x headphones out, Card Reader: SD, Sensors: brightness sensor
Networking
Realtek RTL8168/8111 Gigabit-LAN (10/100/1000MBit), Atheros AR9565 (a/b/g/n), Bluetooth Bluetooth 4.0
Size
height x width x depth (in mm): 23.9 x 387 x 263.4 ( = 0.94 x 15.24 x 10.37 in)
Battery
56 Wh Lithium-Ion, 4 cells
Operating System
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 Bit
Camera
Webcam: 1 MP
Additional features
Speakers: 2 x Stereo speakers, Keyboard: Chiclet, Keyboard Light: yes, 24 Months Warranty
Weight
2.39 kg ( = 84.3 oz / 5.27 pounds), Power Supply: 564 g ( = 19.89 oz / 1.24 pounds)
Price
1300 Euro

 

Input Devices

Although the input devices remained largely the same, we have to cover the touchpad again. It already had slight issues in the previous test. In our model, the incorporated mouse buttons only worked when pressing extremely hard. Despite a click noise often no mouse click is triggered. We cannot tell here whether our test model is defective or whether the whole series is affected.

Display

Our test model comes with a Full HD display. It features a 1920x1080 resolution and stems from Samsung (model 2014: Chi Mei). The average brightness is 226.7 cd/m². The competitors are brighter. It is positive that IPS technology is used. Thanks to the matte surface, gloss is not a limiting factor. Those who want a sharper display can select the optional Ultra HD (see review) instead. The contrast of 930:1 and the black value of 0.23 cd/m² are completely sufficient for saturated and deep black. In comparison, the model from 2014 only achieved a contrast of 315:1 and a black value of 0.722 cd/m². While the Schenker XMG A505 performs better in all aspects, it costs 350 Euros (~$387) more.

The image is dark...
The image is dark...
...outside...
...outside...
...due to low brightness.
...due to low brightness.
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
GeForce GTX 960M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
Schenker XMG A505
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
Screen
-17%
34%
Brightness227220
-3%
275
21%
Brightness Distribution7979
0%
87
10%
Black Level *0.230.36
-57%
0.23
-0%
Contrast930611
-34%
1235
33%
Colorchecker DeltaE2000 *4.95.46
-11%
2.46
50%
Greyscale DeltaE2000 *4.134.74
-15%
2.3
44%
Gamma *2.442.542.32
CCT7239 90%7130 91%6393 102%
Color Space (Percent of AdobeRGB 1998)3838
0%
60
58%
Color Space (Percent of sRGB)5992
56%

* ... smaller is better

246
cd/m²
212
cd/m²
216
cd/m²
260
cd/m²
214
cd/m²
205
cd/m²
253
cd/m²
225
cd/m²
209
cd/m²
Distribution of brightness
X-Rite i1Pro 2
Maximum: 260 cd/m² Average: 226.7 cd/m²
Brightness Distribution: 79 %
Center on Battery: 214 cd/m²
Contrast: 930:1 (Black: 0.23 cd/m²)
ΔE Color 4.9 | - Ø
ΔE Greyscale 4.13 | - Ø
59% sRGB (Argyll) 38% AdobeRGB 1998 (Argyll)
Gamma: 2.44

Due to the IPS technology, the color shift (compared to sRGB) and the gray level shift are sufficiently low. Before calibration, the DeltaE value is 4.9 for the colors and 3.24 for the gray levels. Even without calibration a blue tint is not visible. This is another aspect which significantly improved compared to last year's model.

Color-space coverage is an important criterion for professional use. However, only 59% of sRGB and 38% of AdobeRGB are covered.

Next we want to check the outdoor capabilities. Although the brightness is rather low, direct light sources do not disturb thanks to the matte display. Nevertheless, the brightness is hardly sufficient for constant outdoor use, since the image is often too dark.

The IPS display is much more pleasing in terms of viewing angles. Tilting the screen and looking at it from the sides is always possible. For example, several people can watch films etc. from different positions without limitations.

CalMAN: Gray levels (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Gray levels (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Colors (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Colors (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Color saturation (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Color saturation (not calibrated)
CalMAN: Gray levels (calibrated)
CalMAN: Gray levels (calibrated)
CalMAN: Colors (calibrated)
CalMAN: Colors (calibrated)
CalMAN: Color saturation (calibrated)
CalMAN: Color saturation (calibrated)
sRGB color-space coverage
sRGB color-space coverage
AdobeRGB color-space coverage
AdobeRGB color-space coverage
Viewing angles
Viewing angles

Performance

LatencyMon
LatencyMon
No maintenance hatches
No maintenance hatches

The Lenovo Y50-70 is a responsive multimedia device with an SSD, 16 GB dual-channel RAM, a fast CPU and a powerful dedicated graphics card from Nvidia. A glance at the specs reveals that our test model can easily cope with multimedia tasks and can even handle games. Most newer games will run at a high quality level. Thanks to its slim build, the Lenovo is also a welcome companion. As mentioned above, those who need slightly more performance can select a faster processor.

Processor

A "10" in the name of the Intel Core i7-4710HQ indicates the first new feature. The data sheet reveals the difference with the Intel Core i7-4700HQ used in the previous model. Base clock and Turbo clock were increased by 100 MHz. As a result the clock rate ranges from 2.5 to 3.5 GHz. Cache size and TDP of 47 W remained unchanged. Both CPUs are based on the Haswell technology. The Intel Core i7-4720HQ is another option and clocks another 100 MHz faster. We want to analyze the performance difference of the three processors with Cinebench R15.

In the multi-core test, the new CPU performs hardly better than the already reviewed Y50-70. The performance gain of the Intel Core i7-4720HQ might be worthwhile as we can see in the MSI GE60 and the Acer Aspire VN7. However, a similar Y50-70 with Nvidia GTX 860M performs only 6% better. This is most likely due to Turbo efficiency. The clock rate falls to the standard clock of 2.5 GHz at the beginning and the laptop does not run at Turbo clock. The clock rate does not fall below 2.5 GHz when the test is run multiple times in succession.

A CPU performance loss is not to be expected on battery. At least, the laptop achieves the same score in Cinebench R11.5 as in mains operation.

Cinebench R15
CPU Single 64Bit (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
117 Points ∼63%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50
125 Points ∼68% +7%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
134 Points ∼72% +15%
Schenker XMG A505
142 Points ∼77% +21%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 PL
144 Points ∼78% +23%
Acer Aspire VN7-591G-727P
138 Points ∼75% +18%
CPU Multi 64Bit (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
502 Points ∼32%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50
490 Points ∼32% -2%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
677 Points ∼44% +35%
Schenker XMG A505
538 Points ∼35% +7%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 PL
532 Points ∼34% +6%
Acer Aspire VN7-591G-727P
642 Points ∼41% +28%

Legend

 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229 Intel Core i7-4710HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50 Intel Core i7-4700HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M, Western Digital WD10S21X SSHD 1TB + 8GB SSD-Cache
 
MSI GE60-2QEWi781 Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
 
Schenker XMG A505 Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 PL Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Western Digital WD10S21X SSHD 1TB + 8GB SSD-Cache
 
Acer Aspire VN7-591G-727P Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NU
Cinebench R10 Shading 64Bit
6604 Points
Cinebench R10 Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit
17829 Points
Cinebench R10 Rendering Single CPUs 64Bit
5185 Points
Cinebench R10 Shading 32Bit
6728
Cinebench R10 Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
14533
Cinebench R10 Rendering Single 32Bit
4618
Cinebench R11.5 OpenGL 64Bit
55.07 fps
Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64Bit
5.44 Points
Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64Bit
1.35 Points
Cinebench R15 Ref. Match 64Bit
99.6 %
Cinebench R15 OpenGL 64Bit
57.86 fps
Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64Bit
502 Points
Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64Bit
117 Points
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System Performance

An SSD, a high-performance processor, sufficient RAM as well as graphics performance always ensure smooth and responsive operation. Working is absolutely fun with our test model. PCMark 7 confirms our subjective impression. Compared to our previous review, the Y50-70's score is above 50% higher. Not only the faster hardware is decisive, but also the use of a fast SSD instead of a magnetic hard drive improves things. For the same reason, the similarly equipped MSI GE60 achieves 1000 points less than our test model.

PCMark 7 - Score (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
GeForce GTX 960M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
4622 Points ∼57%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712)
GeForce GTX 860M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 512 GB MZ7TE512HMHP
5238 Points ∼65% +13%
Schenker XMG A505
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
6042 Points ∼75% +31%
Acer Aspire VN7-591G-727P
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Toshiba HG6 THNSNJ256G8NU
5804 Points ∼72% +26%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
3437 Points ∼43% -26%
PCMark 7 Score
4622 points
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Storage Devices

In our configuration, the storage device is a Samsung PM851 with 256 GB. We used CrystalDiskMark to evaluate its performance. It achieves decent sequential read rates of above 500 MB/s, which is about five times the predecessor's. The sequential write rates of 264.8 MB/s are about three times faster. Thanks to SSD technology, the especially important 4K values are much better.

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
GeForce GTX 960M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712)
GeForce GTX 860M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 512 GB MZ7TE512HMHP
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
Schenker XMG A505
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
CrystalDiskMark 3.0
4%
-81%
27%
Write 4k81.7368.62
-16%
0.993
-99%
104.1
27%
Read 4k32.2924.36
-25%
0.52
-98%
33.46
4%
Write Seq264.8430.9
63%
124.7
-53%
469.4
77%
Read Seq518.2480.1
-7%
128.4
-75%
506.8
-2%
Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
Sequential Read: 518.2 MB/s
Sequential Write: 264.8 MB/s
512K Read: 442.9 MB/s
512K Write: 265.4 MB/s
4K Read: 32.29 MB/s
4K Write: 81.73 MB/s
4K QD32 Read: 341.2 MB/s
4K QD32 Write: 261.9 MB/s

Graphics Card

This year's Nvidia GTX 960M is significantly more powerful than its Nvidia GeForce 860M predecessor. Our model comes with the maximum VRAM capacity of 4 GB. We want to analyze the performance gain compared to the predecessor with 3DMark 11 and FireStrike. In 3DMark 11, the performance gain is about 7 to 8%. The difference is even higher in the 3DMark FireStrike test with 9 to 12%. However, it is questionable if buying a new notebook is indeed necessary. But, we can say for sure that the performance falls on battery. So, mains operation is necessary for having the full potential of the dedicated graphics card available.

3DMark 11 - 1280x720 Performance (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
5444 Points ∼24%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 59-427489
5046 Points ∼22% -7%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712)
4990 Points ∼22% -8%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
5299 Points ∼23% -3%
Schenker XMG A505
5639 Points ∼25% +4%
3DMark (2013) - 1920x1080 Fire Strike Standard Score (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
3913 Points ∼17%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 59-427489
3557 Points ∼15% -9%
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712)
3455 Points ∼15% -12%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781
3688 Points ∼16% -6%
Schenker XMG A505
4071 Points ∼17% +4%

Legend

 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229 Intel Core i7-4710HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 59-427489 Intel Core i7-4710HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M, Western Digital WD10S21X SSHD 1TB + 8GB SSD-Cache
 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70 (59424712) Intel Core i7-4710HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 860M, Samsung SSD PM851 512 GB MZ7TE512HMHP
 
MSI GE60-2QEWi781 Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
 
Schenker XMG A505 Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
3DMark 11 Performance
5444 points
3DMark (2013) Ice Storm Standard Score
73922 points
3DMark (2013) Cloud Gate Standard Score
13928 points
3DMark (2013) Fire Strike Standard Score
3913 points
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Gaming Performance

With the used dedicated graphics card of the performance class, the Lenovo Y50-70 is perfectly suitable for gaming. Most games should be playable at high quality settings without big problems. We selected Metro: Last Light as a representative, since it shows the potential of the graphics solution and allows comparison to our last year's review. Smooth frame rates are possible with maximum graphics settings, while last year's Y50-70 achieved an unsatisfactory 24 fps with the same settings.

Metro: Last Light
1920x1080 Very High (DX11) AF:16x (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
GeForce GTX 960M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
31.2 fps ∼22%
Schenker XMG A505
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
31.9 fps ∼23% +2%
1366x768 High (DX11) AF:16x (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
GeForce GTX 960M, 4710HQ, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
58.21 fps ∼36%
Schenker XMG A505
GeForce GTX 960M, 4720HQ, Micron M600 MTFDDAV256MBF M.2
59.9 fps ∼37% +3%
low med. high ultra
Metro: Last Light (2013) 9590.958.2131.2fps

Emissions & Energy

System Noise

The Y50 deserves praise in terms of system noise. While idle, the test model always remained quiet. Most of the time, the device is even silent and the fans are off. A noise of up to 47.6 dB(A) is first possible in load scenarios. The reached frequencies are not disturbing. Especially while idle, the new Y50-70 is quieter than the already reviewed model. Competitors like the MSI GE 60 are significantly louder, too.

Noise Level

Idle
29.6 / 30.7 / 31.3 dB(A)
Load
43.1 / 47.6 dB(A)
 
 
 
30 dB
silent
40 dB(A)
audible
50 dB(A)
loud
 
min: dark, med: mid, max: light   Voltcraft sl-320 (15 cm distance)

Temperature

Stress test
Stress test

Let's turn to the temperature development of the case and hardware. While idle and during normal use, the case remains comfortably cool. We could not observe abnormalities during our tests. Quite uncomfortable temperature peaks are first reached when the components are used to capacity. Unfortunately, the maximum of 52 °C is on the top side. The previous Y50-70 got even 8 °C warmer. Overall, these temperatures are uncomfortable for work, but they are only reached during our stress test. We checked the effects of FurMark and Prime95 on the inner components. After a short time, the clock rate falls to the base clock and remains there until the CPU clock has to react to enormous CPU temperatures of up to 98 °C. After a short time at 800 MHz, the clock rate increases to the base clock again.

Those who frequently run demanding programs should also watch the temperature of the power adapter, which reached a maximum of 55 °C. For this reason, the power adapter should not be covered by pillows or blankets.

We reran 3DMark 11 immediately after our stress scenarios. With about 5400 points, the score is equivalent to a cold run's.

Max. Load
 47.8 °C52.5 °C31.5 °C 
 45 °C51.5 °C27.6 °C 
 26.7 °C25.7 °C25.9 °C 
Maximum: 52.5 °C
Average: 37.1 °C
31.7 °C47 °C41.1 °C
28 °C35.7 °C36.7 °C
26.2 °C29.8 °C31.6 °C
Maximum: 47 °C
Average: 34.2 °C
Power Supply (max.)  55 °C | Room Temperature 21.8 °C | Voltcraft IR-360

Power Consumption

Our Y50-70 test model proved to be frugal while idle with power consumption between 4.3 W and 10.6 W. For example, the MSI GE 60's energy demand is almost double as high. This is probably already indicative for a difference in battery life. Our multimedia device requires between 100 and 112.3 W at most. You could think that the power adapter delivers just enough performance with 125 W. However, the battery is discharged during our stress test...

Power Consumption
Off / Standbydarklight 0 / 0.1 Watt
Idledarkmidlight 4.3 / 7.8 / 10.6 Watt
Load midlight 99.7 / 112.3 Watt
 color bar
Key: min: dark, med: mid, max: light        Voltcraft VC 940

Battery Life

According to our readings, the battery features four cells and a capacity of 55.5 Wh. If you believe in the manufacturer's claim, the battery life should be up to 5 hours. For a scenario as realistic as possible, we set the brightness to about 150 cd/m² and simulate web surfing. The Y50-70 switches to stand-by after 4 h and 14 min. While the laptop will not last a workday long, watching several episodes of various series is easily possible on a single charge.

Battery Runtime - WiFi Websurfing 1.3 (sort by value)
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229
254 min ∼21%
Asus G501JW-CN168H
190 min ∼16% -25%
MSI GE60-2QEWi781 (IE 11)
222 min ∼19% -13%

Legend

 
Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229 Intel Core i7-4710HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, Samsung SSD PM851 256 GB MZ7TE256HMHP
 
Asus G501JW-CN168H Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M,
 
MSI GE60-2QEWi781 Intel Core i7-4720HQ, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960M, HGST Travelstar 7K1000 HTS721010A9E630
Battery Runtime
WiFi Surfing v1.3
4h 14min

Pro

+ design
+ system and gaming performance
+ material of the lid
+ maintenance
+ solid battery life

Cons

- brightness distribution and brightness
- performance on battery

Verdict

In Review: Lenovo Y50-70. Test model provided by Notebooksbilliger.de
In Review: Lenovo Y50-70. Test model provided by Notebooksbilliger.de

Lenovo's bundle can still be called solid. An elegant and fancy design envelops the powerful hardware inside, which can easily handle everyday multimedia and gaming. Instead of a TN panel, the IPS technology is now used. Nevertheless, the brightness is very low, but other values including contrast significantly improved. A better resolution is available with the optional UHD. The faster CPU is probably not the deciding factor for replacing the old notebook. The new Nvidia graphics card convinces with about 10% higher performance in the benchmarks and also with smoother frame rates for gaming. Fortunately, the improved performance is not at the expense of emissions. Quite the contrary: low fan noise and surface temperatures are a positive development. However, the battery life remained unchanged.

The Lenovo Y50-70 is an interesting multimedia and gaming notebook with an affordable entry level price of about 1000 Euros (~$1106).

However, the competition also offers interesting devices like the MSI GE60 or the Schenker XMG A505, which should be considered.

Lenovo IdeaPad Y50-70-59441229 - 02/23/2016 v5
Nino Ricchizzi

Chassis
82 / 98 → 84%
Keyboard
83%
Pointing Device
83%
Connectivity
46 / 81 → 56%
Weight
60 / 66 → 89%
Battery
77%
Display
85%
Games Performance
80%
Application Performance
86%
Temperature
86 / 95 → 91%
Noise
82 / 90 → 91%
Audio
80%
Camera
63 / 85 → 74%
Average
76%
80%
Gaming - Weighted Average

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