AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3300U vs AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 3 3300U

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The AMD Ryzen 3 3300U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (no SMT / Hyperthreading so only 4 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 3 3300U should be similar to the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz but with SMT).

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U is a mobile SoC for business laptops that was announced in April  2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 5 3500U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 3 3300UAMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+Zen+
: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3500 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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2 MB2 MB2 MB
4 MB4 MB4 MB
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15 15 15
4500 4500 4500
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XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 6 (Ryzen 2000) ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) R5 PRO 3500U

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (55%)
337 Points (63%)
min: 354     avg: 362     median: 361.5 (68%)     max: 369 Points
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (16%)
921 Points (9%)
min: 1328     avg: 1339     median: 1338.5 (13%)     max: 1349 Points
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
788 Points (18%)
456 Points (10%)
min: 558     avg: 585     median: 584.5 (13%)     max: 611 Points
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
166 Points (74%)
134 Points (60%)
min: 140     avg: 142     median: 142 (63%)     max: 144 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
4280 Points (44%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
12357 Points (21%)
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
405 seconds (5%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
11.9 seconds (2%)
WinRAR - Result
2398 KB/s (25%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
min: 15910     avg: 16221     median: 16220.5 (16%)     max: 16531 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
min: 3432     avg: 3474     median: 3474 (23%)     max: 3516 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
26.2 fps (16%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
132 fps (46%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
min: 3.36     avg: 3.5     median: 3.5 (13%)     max: 3.6 fps
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TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
0.3 GB/s (12%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
0.4 GB/s (12%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
2.7 GB/s (14%)
Blender 2.79 - BMW27 CPU *
min: 786     avg: 796     median: 795.5 (6%)     max: 805 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - Overall mean *
0.8 sec (17%)
3DMark 06 - CPU
4332 Points (29%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12.8 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
28.4 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
709 Seconds (3%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
4587 points (21%)
min: 5150     avg: 5781     median: 5781 (26%)     max: 6412 points
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
51741 Points (33%)
43514 Points (28%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
47170 Points (56%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
55407 Points (64%)
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
3953 Points (10%)
min: 5629     avg: 5860     median: 5859.5 (15%)     max: 6090 Points
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
5629 Points (18%)
min: 8547     avg: 8809     median: 8808.5 (28%)     max: 9070 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Stream
8470 Points (68%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Memory
6808 Points (62%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Floating Point
12111 Points (24%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Integer
8746 Points (18%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Total Score
9508 Points (25%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
10170 Points (18%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
3469 Points (71%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
11467 Points (18%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3780 Points (77%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3672 Points (58%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10223 Points (25%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3861 Points (61%)
3820 Points (60%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10787 Points (19%)
10419 Points (18%)
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
890 Points (62%)
843 Points (59%)
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
3380 Points (21%)
2722 Points (17%)
Geekbench 5.1 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
940 Points (65%)
863 Points (60%)
Geekbench 5.1 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
3050 Points (25%)
2824 Points (23%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
1281 ms (2%)
min: 1097     avg: 1211     median: 1211.1 (2%)     max: 1325.1 ms
Sunspider - 1.0 Total Score *
137 ms (2%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
27764 Points (53%)
min: 27185     avg: 27437     median: 27437 (52%)     max: 27689 Points

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3300U → 97%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U → 103%

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)