AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3300U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 3 3300U

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The AMD Ryzen 3 3300U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (no SMT / Hyperthreading so only 4 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 3 3300U should be similar to the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz but with SMT).

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 3 3300UAMD Ryzen 5 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+Zen+
: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3500 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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2 MB2 MB2 MB
4 MB4 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 44 / 8
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4500 4500 4500
12 12 12
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XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 6 (Ryzen 2000) ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (55%)
337 Points (63%)
min: 317     avg: 351     median: 358.5 (67%)     max: 372 Points
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (16%)
921 Points (9%)
min: 1063     avg: 1435     median: 1484.5 (15%)     max: 1540 Points
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
788 Points (18%)
456 Points (10%)
min: 482     avg: 637     median: 647.5 (15%)     max: 682 Points
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
166 Points (74%)
134 Points (60%)
min: 131     avg: 142     median: 143 (64%)     max: 147 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Multi 64Bit
7.6 Points (17%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Single 64Bit
1.7 Points (64%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
4280 Points (44%)
min: 4542     avg: 4556     median: 4557.5 (47%)     max: 4565 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
12357 Points (21%)
min: 13249     avg: 16322     median: 17230.5 (29%)     max: 17578 Points
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
405 seconds (5%)
368 seconds (4%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
11.9 seconds (2%)
12.9 seconds (3%)
WinRAR - Result
2398 KB/s (25%)
2455 KB/s (25%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
min: 16901     avg: 17064     median: 17035 (17%)     max: 17508 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
min: 3530     avg: 3550     median: 3553 (23%)     max: 3580 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
26.2 fps (16%)
39.2 fps (23%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
132 fps (46%)
135 fps (47%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
min: 3.9     avg: 4     median: 4 (15%)     max: 4.15 fps
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TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
0.3 GB/s (12%)
0.4 GB/s (19%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
0.4 GB/s (12%)
0.7 GB/s (19%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
2.7 GB/s (14%)
4.4 GB/s (23%)
Blender 2.79 - BMW27 CPU *
min: 680     avg: 690     median: 694 (5%)     max: 703 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - Overall mean *
min: 0.734     avg: 0.7     median: 0.7 (16%)     max: 0.763 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU
4332 Points (29%)
min: 5044     avg: 5951     median: 5950.5 (40%)     max: 6857 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12.8 Seconds (3%)
12 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
28.4 Seconds (1%)
27.8 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
709 Seconds (3%)
697 Seconds (3%)
3DMark Vantage - P CPU no PhysX 1280x1024
18229 Points (25%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
4587 points (21%)
min: 5213     avg: 6186     median: 6323 (29%)     max: 6967 points
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
51741 Points (33%)
min: 29562     avg: 33981     median: 30254 (19%)     max: 48997 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
47170 Points (56%)
min: 30656     avg: 35865     median: 31869 (38%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
55407 Points (64%)
min: 26201     avg: 37836     median: 35073.5 (41%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
3953 Points (10%)
min: 5217     avg: 6338     median: 6544 (17%)     max: 7132 Points
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
5629 Points (18%)
min: 7496     avg: 9130     median: 9278 (29%)     max: 10054 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Stream
8470 Points (68%)
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Memory
6808 Points (62%)
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Floating Point
12111 Points (24%)
16467 Points (32%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Integer
8746 Points (18%)
12317 Points (25%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Total Score
9508 Points (25%)
11917 Points (31%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
10170 Points (18%)
min: 9503     avg: 12182     median: 13040 (23%)     max: 13145 Points
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
3469 Points (71%)
min: 3258     avg: 3405     median: 3442.5 (71%)     max: 3478 Points
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
11467 Points (18%)
13873 Points (22%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3780 Points (77%)
3682 Points (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3672 Points (58%)
3669 Points (58%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10223 Points (25%)
10597 Points (26%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3861 Points (61%)
min: 3400     avg: 3785     median: 3893 (61%)     max: 3924 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10787 Points (19%)
min: 10099     avg: 11388     median: 11783 (20%)     max: 12171 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
890 Points (62%)
843 Points (59%)
min: 772     avg: 880     median: 896 (62%)     max: 913 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
3380 Points (21%)
2722 Points (17%)
min: 2599     avg: 3035     median: 3118.5 (19%)     max: 3244 Points
Geekbench 5.1 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
940 Points (65%)
min: 777     avg: 876     median: 902 (62%)     max: 904 Points
Geekbench 5.1 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
3050 Points (25%)
min: 2543     avg: 3064     median: 3157 (26%)     max: 3234 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
1281 ms (2%)
min: 1101     avg: 1306     median: 1286.5 (2%)     max: 1692.7 ms
Sunspider - 1.0 Total Score *
137 ms (2%)
129 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
27764 Points (53%)
min: 19083     avg: 26180     median: 27726.5 (53%)     max: 29237 Points

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3300U → 97%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3500U → 109%

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)