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AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3250U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 3780U

The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U,a Microsoft Surface edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

While we have not tested a single system powered by the 3780U as of August 2023, it's safe to expect the chip to be about as fast as the Ryzen 7 3700U, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned.

AMD Ryzen 3 3250U

► remove from comparison AMD R3 3250U

The AMD Ryzen 3 3250U is an entry-level, dual-core APU that was announced in 2020. The Ryzen features two Zen cores (SMT is enabled for a total of 4 threads) running at 2.6 GHz to 3.5 GHz and a Radeon RX Vega 3 graphics adapter (3 Compute Units = 192 unified shaders) running at up to 1,200 MHz. The specifications are similar to the older Ryzen 3 3200U, with the lower peak operating temperature of Ryzen 3 3250U (95 °C versus the 105 °C) being the only difference between the two.

AMD Ryzen 3 3250C is a special edition of Ryzen 3 3250U designed for use in Chromebooks. The specifications and performance figures appear to be identical between the two.

Architecture

Unlike the costlier Ryzen 5 3500U, Ryzen 3 3250U is not Zen+ based. It makes use of the ageing Zen architecture and is manufactured on the same 14 nm TSMC process as Ryzen 2000-series laptop-grade processors. This has several repercussions; the limited RAM support is one of them. DDR4-3200, DDR4-2933, DDR4-2666 modules are not supported here. It's just the DDR4-2400, DDR4-2133 and lower on.

The CPU has several PCI-Express 3.0 lanes and is thus compatible with NVMe SSDs (read/write rates will be limited to 3.9 GB/s) as well as discrete graphics cards. Ryzen 3 3250U gets soldered permanently on to the motherboard (FP5 socket interface) and is thus not user-replaceable.

Click here for more information on the Raven Ridge product family.

Performance

As far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned, this Ryzen series chip directly competes with the Core i3-10110U, Core i3-1110G4 and also the Athlon Gold 3150U. While the 3250U is certainly not a powerhouse, mundane tasks such as web browsing and casual gaming pose little problem to it, as of early 2022.

Graphics

The Vega 3 is fairly close to Intel's UHD Graphics 620 as far as performance and capabilities go. The graphics adapter supports UHD 2160p monitors at 60 fps, and it can HW-decode VP9, AVC, HEVC, MPEG-2 and other popular video codecs. The latest AV1 codec is not supported, though. Such a video will have to be decoded via software, with the limited CPU horsepower imposing a hard limit on the resolution that can be played back without stuttering.

The Vega will allow for a bit of light gaming; F1 2021 runs well at 720p / Low, to give you an example. Quality RAM will allow for higher frame rates and the opposite is true as well; please keep in mind that Vega 3 has no VRAM of its own.

Power consumption

Energy efficiency isn't great here. The Ryzen is built with a 14 nm manufacturing process leading to low, as of early 2023, energy efficiency.

The APU has a default TDP, also known as the long-term Power Limit, of 15 W. Laptop makers are free to reduce that value a little, with 12 W being the lower limit, or give it a noticeable bump (up to 25 W are possible). Clock speeds and performance will change accordingly as a result.

While not as power-hungry as the Ryzen 3 3100 or any other desktop chip, the R3 3250U is still not likely to ever feature in a passively cooled laptop, tablet or mini-PC.

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.

The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 3 3250UAMD Ryzen 5 3580U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)ZenPicasso-U (Zen+)
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+)
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U « 2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
Clock2300 - 4000 MHz2600 - 3500 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB192 KB384 KB
L2 Cache2 MB1 MB2 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 82 / 44 / 8
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm14 nm12 nm
max. Temp.105 °C95 °C105 °C
SocketFP5FP5FP5
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHADDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SMEDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R3 3250U
23.2 pt (32%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
26.2 pt (36%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 1876     avg: 1989     median: 2010 (2%)     max: 2080 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 768     avg: 785     median: 776 (33%)     max: 810 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (32%)
min: 234     avg: 279     median: 300 (33%)     max: 303 Points
352 Points (39%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (4%)
min: 415     avg: 668     median: 783 (2%)     max: 805 Points
1549 Points (4%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
788 Points (5%)
min: 351     avg: 352.7     median: 353 (2%)     max: 354 Points
693 Points (4%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
166 Points (50%)
min: 119     avg: 122.2     median: 121.6 (37%)     max: 126 Points
139 Points (42%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
4 Points (5%)
7.8 Points (10%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.5 Points (36%)
1.7 Points (41%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4088 Points (25%)
4525 Points (27%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
10251 Points (7%)
18307 Points (13%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
457.3 s (5%)
274.7 s (3%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
14.5 s (3%)
7.2 s (1%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
1710 Points (3%)
2924 Points (5%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 8899     avg: 9153     median: 9063 (5%)     max: 9496 MIPS
15209 MIPS (9%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 2931     avg: 3225     median: 3291 (39%)     max: 3452 MIPS
3572 MIPS (43%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
21.1 fps (7%)
40.1 fps (14%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
101 fps (23%)
135.3 fps (31%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 1.83     avg: 2.1     median: 2.2 (4%)     max: 2.17 fps
4.1 fps (7%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.2 GB/s (0%)
0.4 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.3 GB/s (6%)
0.6 GB/s (10%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
1.9 GB/s (5%)
3.5 GB/s (9%)
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 2492     avg: 2541     median: 2541 (32%)     max: 2590 Seconds
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 1319     avg: 1372     median: 1399 (10%)     max: 1399 Seconds
710 Seconds (5%)
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.773     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (17%)     max: 0.843 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
3966 Points (8%)
5545 Points (12%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12.7 s (3%)
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
28.8 s (1%)
27.2 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
668 s (3%)
694 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (19%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 3849     avg: 4103     median: 4195 (11%)     max: 4266 Points
6856 Points (19%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
46375 Points (38%)
47473 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
45549 Points (37%)
48287 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
44021 Points (37%)
52082 Points (44%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 3689     avg: 3727     median: 3703 (9%)     max: 3789 Points
6687 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 5463     avg: 5522     median: 5507 (10%)     max: 5596 Points
9805 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 353     avg: 1254     median: 1692 (7%)     max: 1718 Points
2898 Points (12%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
940 Points (40%)
min: 687     avg: 796     median: 824 (35%)     max: 848 Points
900 Points (38%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
3050 Points (5%)
min: 1397     avg: 1634     median: 1662 (3%)     max: 1813 Points
2990 Points (5%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 Points (4%)
868 Points (4%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 Points (11%)
1838 Points (6%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
3829 Points (38%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
7396 Points (8%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 Points (53%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 Points (29%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 1187     avg: 1233     median: 1233 (1%)     max: 1279 ms
1243 ms (1%)
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
313.8 ms (3%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
35541 Points (32%)
28517 Points (26%)
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
105.2 Points (30%)
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 135.3     avg: 140.2     median: 140.2 (29%)     max: 145 Points
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 588     avg: 624     median: 623.5 (24%)     max: 659 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 20.5     avg: 24.1     median: 24.1 (4%)     max: 27.7 Watt
41.1 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 25.2     avg: 26.6     median: 26.6 (5%)     max: 28 Watt
40 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
3.5 Watt (2%)
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 5.59     avg: 6     median: 6 (7%)     max: 6.43 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
13.9 Points per Watt (10%)
17.3 Points per Watt (13%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100% n=6

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3250U → 69% n=6

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 97% n=6

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