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AMD Ryzen 5 3580U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3450U vs AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.

The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 5 3450U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3450U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3450U is a mobile SoC that was announced in Q2 2020 as a refresh. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 GHz to 3.5 GHz (-200 MHz versus 3500U) with a Radeon RX Vega 8 iGPU with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz.

The Picasso SoC uses the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12 nm process allows for higher clocks at similar power consumption.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3450U in our database is in the same league as the Core i3-1115G4 and also the Ryzen 3 4300U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a better-than-expected result for an aging lower mid-range chip that is the 3450U, as of mid 2022.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.

Power consumption

The Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W if required with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. These values are fairly high, making active cooling solutions something of a necessity.

The CPU is built with a somewhat old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 PRO 3500U

The AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U is a mobile SoC for business laptops that was announced in April  2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 5 3500U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

ModelAMD Ryzen 5 3580UAMD Ryzen 5 3450UAMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)Picasso-U (Zen+)Zen+
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U « 2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 3350U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
Clock2100 - 3700 MHz2100 - 3500 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB384 KB384 KB
L2 Cache2 MB2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 84 / 84 / 8
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm12 nm12 nm
max. Temp.105 °C105 °C
SocketFP5FP5AM4
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHADDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SMEXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
26.2 pt (36%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3450U
25.1 pt (35%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 PRO 3500U
26.2 pt (36%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 2658     avg: 2927     median: 2926.5 (3%)     max: 3195 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 858     avg: 875     median: 875 (37%)     max: 892 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
352 Points (39%)
min: 292     avg: 321.5     median: 321.5 (36%)     max: 351 Points
min: 354     avg: 361.5     median: 361.5 (40%)     max: 369 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1549 Points (4%)
min: 1089     avg: 1168     median: 1168 (3%)     max: 1247 Points
min: 1328     avg: 1339     median: 1338.5 (3%)     max: 1349 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
693 Points (4%)
min: 530     avg: 567     median: 566.5 (4%)     max: 603 Points
min: 611     avg: 624     median: 624 (4%)     max: 637 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
139 Points (42%)
min: 137     avg: 137.5     median: 137.5 (41%)     max: 138 Points
min: 140     avg: 142     median: 142 (43%)     max: 144 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
7.8 Points (10%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.7 Points (41%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4525 Points (27%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
18307 Points (13%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
274.7 s (3%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
7.2 s (1%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2924 Points (5%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
15209 MIPS (9%)
min: 15163     avg: 15782     median: 15878 (9%)     max: 16305 MIPS
min: 15910     avg: 16221     median: 16220.5 (9%)     max: 16531 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
3572 MIPS (43%)
min: 3355     avg: 3375     median: 3359 (40%)     max: 3411 MIPS
min: 3432     avg: 3474     median: 3474 (42%)     max: 3516 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
40.1 fps (14%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
135.3 fps (31%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
4.1 fps (7%)
min: 2.77     avg: 3.1     median: 3 (5%)     max: 3.43 fps
min: 3.36     avg: 3.5     median: 3.5 (6%)     max: 3.6 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.6 GB/s (10%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
3.5 GB/s (9%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
710 Seconds (5%)
min: 834     avg: 919     median: 946 (7%)     max: 976 Seconds
min: 786     avg: 796     median: 795.5 (6%)     max: 805 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.76     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (17%)     max: 0.806 sec
0.8 sec (17%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (12%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (19%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
6856 Points (19%)
min: 4968     avg: 5979     median: 6400 (17%)     max: 6568 Points
min: 5150     avg: 5781     median: 5781 (16%)     max: 6412 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
47473 Points (39%)
43514 Points (35%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
48287 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
52082 Points (44%)
27926 Points (24%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
6687 Points (17%)
min: 5106     avg: 5779     median: 5984 (15%)     max: 6248 Points
min: 5629     avg: 5860     median: 5859.5 (15%)     max: 6090 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
9805 Points (17%)
min: 8985     avg: 9259     median: 9204 (16%)     max: 9587 Points
min: 8547     avg: 8809     median: 8808.5 (16%)     max: 9070 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
2898 Points (12%)
min: 1887     avg: 2208     median: 2170 (9%)     max: 2567 Points
min: 2595     avg: 2638     median: 2638 (11%)     max: 2681 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
900 Points (38%)
min: 698     avg: 819     median: 839 (35%)     max: 866 Points
863 Points (36%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
2990 Points (5%)
min: 2565     avg: 2918     median: 2972 (5%)     max: 3123 Points
2824 Points (5%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
853 Points (4%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
2630 Points (8%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
3486 Points (35%)
3820 Points (38%)
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
10200 Points (11%)
10419 Points (12%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 Points (53%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 Points (29%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
1243 ms (1%)
min: 1170     avg: 1185     median: 1185 (1%)     max: 1200 ms
min: 1097     avg: 1211     median: 1211 (1%)     max: 1325 ms
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
28517 Points (26%)
min: 27185     avg: 27437     median: 27437 (25%)     max: 27689 Points
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 145     avg: 145.5     median: 145.5 (30%)     max: 146 Points
142 Points (30%)
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 707     avg: 722     median: 722 (28%)     max: 737 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
41.1 Watt (7%)
37.3 Watt (6%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
40 Watt (7%)
36.2 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
17.3 Points per Watt (13%)
14.6 Points per Watt (11%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 100% n=15

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3450U → 91% n=15

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U → 94% n=15

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