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AMD Ryzen 5 3580U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3250U vs AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.

The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 3 3250U

► remove from comparison AMD R3 3250U

The AMD Ryzen 3 3250U is an entry-level, dual-core APU that was announced in 2020. The Ryzen features two Zen cores (SMT is enabled for a total of 4 threads) running at 2.6 GHz to 3.5 GHz and a Radeon RX Vega 3 graphics adapter (3 Compute Units = 192 unified shaders) running at up to 1,200 MHz. The specifications are similar to the older Ryzen 3 3200U, with the lower peak operating temperature of Ryzen 3 3250U (95 °C versus the 105 °C) being the only difference between the two.

AMD Ryzen 3 3250C is a special edition of Ryzen 3 3250U designed for use in Chromebooks. The specifications and performance figures appear to be identical between the two.

Architecture

Unlike the costlier Ryzen 5 3500U, Ryzen 3 3250U is not Zen+ based. It makes use of the ageing Zen architecture and is manufactured on the same 14 nm TSMC process as Ryzen 2000-series laptop-grade processors. This has several repercussions; the limited RAM support is one of them. DDR4-3200, DDR4-2933, DDR4-2666 modules are not supported here. It's just the DDR4-2400, DDR4-2133 and lower on.

The CPU has several PCI-Express 3.0 lanes and is thus compatible with NVMe SSDs (read/write rates will be limited to 3.9 GB/s) as well as discrete graphics cards. Ryzen 3 3250U gets soldered permanently on to the motherboard (FP5 socket interface) and is thus not user-replaceable.

Click here for more information on the Raven Ridge product family.

Performance

As far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned, this Ryzen series chip directly competes with the Core i3-10110U, Core i3-1110G4 and also the Athlon Gold 3150U. While the 3250U is certainly not a powerhouse, mundane tasks such as web browsing and casual gaming pose little problem to it, as of early 2022.

Graphics

The Vega 3 is fairly close to Intel's UHD Graphics 620 as far as performance and capabilities go. The graphics adapter supports UHD 2160p monitors at 60 fps, and it can HW-decode VP9, AVC, HEVC, MPEG-2 and other popular video codecs. The latest AV1 codec is not supported, though. Such a video will have to be decoded via software, with the limited CPU horsepower imposing a hard limit on the resolution that can be played back without stuttering.

The Vega will allow for a bit of light gaming; F1 2021 runs well at 720p / Low, to give you an example. Quality RAM will allow for higher frame rates and the opposite is true as well; please keep in mind that Vega 3 has no VRAM of its own.

Power consumption

Energy efficiency isn't great here. The Ryzen is built with a 14 nm manufacturing process leading to low, as of early 2023, energy efficiency.

The APU has a default TDP, also known as the long-term Power Limit, of 15 W. Laptop makers are free to reduce that value a little, with 12 W being the lower limit, or give it a noticeable bump (up to 25 W are possible). Clock speeds and performance will change accordingly as a result.

While not as power-hungry as the Ryzen 3 3100 or any other desktop chip, the R3 3250U is still not likely to ever feature in a passively cooled laptop, tablet or mini-PC.

AMD Ryzen 3 3200U

► remove from comparison AMD R3 3200U

The AMD Ryzen 3 3200U is a dual-core SoC designed for laptops that was announced in January 2019. The Ryzen features two Zen cores with support for the thread-doubling SMT tech, clocked at 2.6 GHz - 3.5 GHz. The built-in Radeon RX Vega 3 iGPU has 3 CUs (192 unified shaders) clocked at up to 1,200 MHz. The default TDP is 15 W which makes the Ryzen a good fit for thin mid-range laptops.

In comparison to the faster Ryzen 3000 CPUs, the 3200U is not using the newer Zen+ microarchitecture and is still manufactured in 14nm. Compared to the old Ryzen 3 2200U, the 3200U therefore only offers a 100 MHz higher clock speed.

The Ryzen 3 is compatible with single-channel or dual-channel DDR4-2400 RAM.

Please go to our Raven Ridge launch article for details on the architecture and more.

Performance

The average 3200U in our extensive database is anything but a performance monster, its multi-thread benchmark scores only just matching those of the Core i3-8130U and the Pentium N6000. While not as atrociously slow as most N-series and J-series Intel chips, this specific Ryzen is good enough for basic day-to-day activities only.

Your mileage may vary depending on how high the CPU power limits are and how competent the cooling solution of your system is.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 3 series chip has a default TDP, also known as the long-term power limit, of 15 W. Laptop makers are free to change that to anything between 12 W and 25 W; most will go for a higher value to extract more performance out of it. Either way, an active cooling solution will be needed to dissipate the heat.

The R3 3200U is built with a 14 nm manufacturing process for low, as of early 2023, energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 5 3580UAMD Ryzen 3 3250UAMD Ryzen 3 3200U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)ZenPicasso-U (Zen)
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+)
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
Clock2100 - 3700 MHz2600 - 3500 MHz2600 - 3500 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB192 KB192 KB
L2 Cache2 MB1 MB1 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 82 / 42 / 4
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm14 nm14 nm
max. Temp.105 °C95 °C105 °C
SocketFP5FP5FP5
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHADDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SMEDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SME
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 3 ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
26.2 pt (36%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R3 3250U
23.2 pt (32%)
Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R3 3200U
23.5 pt (33%)
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Multi Core
min: 1876     avg: 1989     median: 2010 (2%)     max: 2080 Points
min: 1767     avg: 1786     median: 1786 (2%)     max: 1804 Points
Cinebench R23 - Cinebench R23 Single Core
min: 768     avg: 785     median: 776 (33%)     max: 810 Points
min: 208     avg: 584     median: 765 (33%)     max: 780 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
352 Points (39%)
min: 234     avg: 279     median: 300 (33%)     max: 303 Points
min: 274     avg: 298.2     median: 301 (33%)     max: 318 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1549 Points (4%)
min: 415     avg: 668     median: 783 (2%)     max: 805 Points
min: 453     avg: 607     median: 690 (2%)     max: 727 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
693 Points (4%)
min: 351     avg: 352.7     median: 353 (2%)     max: 354 Points
min: 318     avg: 335     median: 334 (2%)     max: 353 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
139 Points (42%)
min: 119     avg: 122.2     median: 121.6 (37%)     max: 126 Points
min: 126     avg: 128.3     median: 129 (39%)     max: 130 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
7.8 Points (10%)
4 Points (5%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.7 Points (41%)
1.5 Points (36%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4525 Points (27%)
4088 Points (25%)
4258 Points (26%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
18307 Points (13%)
10251 Points (7%)
9284 Points (7%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
274.7 s (3%)
457.3 s (5%)
483.5 s (6%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
7.2 s (1%)
14.5 s (3%)
14 s (3%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2924 Points (5%)
1710 Points (3%)
1613 Points (3%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
15209 MIPS (9%)
min: 8899     avg: 9153     median: 9063 (5%)     max: 9496 MIPS
min: 8785     avg: 9083     median: 9081.5 (5%)     max: 9382 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
3572 MIPS (43%)
min: 2931     avg: 3225     median: 3291 (39%)     max: 3452 MIPS
min: 3333     avg: 3371     median: 3372 (40%)     max: 3406 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
40.1 fps (14%)
21.1 fps (7%)
19.5 fps (7%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
135.3 fps (31%)
101 fps (23%)
97.8 fps (23%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
4.1 fps (7%)
min: 1.83     avg: 2.1     median: 2.2 (4%)     max: 2.17 fps
min: 1.864     avg: 2     median: 2 (3%)     max: 2.03 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (0%)
0.2 GB/s (0%)
0.2 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.6 GB/s (10%)
0.3 GB/s (6%)
0.4 GB/s (6%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
3.5 GB/s (9%)
1.9 GB/s (5%)
2.2 GB/s (6%)
Blender - Blender 3.3 Classroom CPU *
min: 2492     avg: 2541     median: 2541 (32%)     max: 2590 Seconds
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
710 Seconds (5%)
min: 1319     avg: 1372     median: 1399 (10%)     max: 1399 Seconds
min: 1439     avg: 1484     median: 1485 (10%)     max: 1528 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.773     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (17%)     max: 0.843 sec
min: 0.846     avg: 0.8     median: 0.8 (18%)     max: 0.852 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (12%)
3966 Points (8%)
3755 Points (8%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
12.7 s (3%)
12.5 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 s (1%)
28.8 s (1%)
29 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 s (3%)
668 s (3%)
730 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (19%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
6856 Points (19%)
min: 3849     avg: 4103     median: 4195 (11%)     max: 4266 Points
min: 3653     avg: 3758     median: 3772 (10%)     max: 3835 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
47473 Points (39%)
46375 Points (38%)
min: 40774     avg: 42358     median: 41370 (34%)     max: 45919 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
48287 Points (39%)
45549 Points (37%)
min: 39108     avg: 41332     median: 41308 (34%)     max: 43602 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
52082 Points (44%)
44021 Points (37%)
min: 44389     avg: 48213     median: 48111 (41%)     max: 52242 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
6687 Points (17%)
min: 3689     avg: 3727     median: 3703 (9%)     max: 3789 Points
min: 3321     avg: 3335     median: 3329 (8%)     max: 3362 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
9805 Points (17%)
min: 5463     avg: 5522     median: 5507 (10%)     max: 5596 Points
min: 4743     avg: 4930     median: 4867 (9%)     max: 5241 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
2898 Points (12%)
min: 353     avg: 1254     median: 1692 (7%)     max: 1718 Points
min: 1509     avg: 1536     median: 1541 (6%)     max: 1553 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
900 Points (38%)
min: 687     avg: 796     median: 824 (35%)     max: 848 Points
min: 770     avg: 803     median: 796.5 (34%)     max: 847 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
2990 Points (5%)
min: 1397     avg: 1634     median: 1662 (3%)     max: 1813 Points
min: 1604     avg: 1661     median: 1651.5 (3%)     max: 1736 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
868 Points (4%)
min: 823     avg: 827     median: 826.5 (4%)     max: 830 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
1838 Points (6%)
min: 1529     avg: 1649     median: 1649 (5%)     max: 1769 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
3829 Points (38%)
min: 3366     avg: 3562     median: 3562 (36%)     max: 3758 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
7396 Points (8%)
min: 6553     avg: 7143     median: 7143 (8%)     max: 7733 Points
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 Points (53%)
3626 Points (49%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 Points (29%)
7237 Points (18%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
6922 Points (12%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
3282 Points (64%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
7496 Points (12%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
3673 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
7535 Points (61%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
5586 Points (51%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
9447 Points (19%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
7540 Points (15%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
7816 Points (20%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
1243 ms (1%)
min: 1187     avg: 1233     median: 1233 (1%)     max: 1279 ms
min: 1185     avg: 1243     median: 1205.5 (1%)     max: 1374 ms
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
313.8 ms (3%)
130.3 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
28517 Points (26%)
35541 Points (32%)
23991 Points (22%)
WebXPRT 4 - WebXPRT 4 Score
105.2 Points (30%)
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 135.3     avg: 140.2     median: 140.2 (29%)     max: 145 Points
min: 137     avg: 142.3     median: 139 (29%)     max: 154 Points
CrossMark - CrossMark Overall
min: 588     avg: 624     median: 623.5 (24%)     max: 659 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
41.1 Watt (7%)
min: 20.5     avg: 24.1     median: 24.1 (4%)     max: 27.7 Watt
17.2 Watt (3%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
40 Watt (7%)
min: 25.2     avg: 26.6     median: 26.6 (5%)     max: 28 Watt
19.4 Watt (4%)
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption - external Monitor *
3.5 Watt (2%)
Power Consumption - Idle Power Consumption 150cd 1min *
min: 5.59     avg: 6     median: 6 (7%)     max: 6.43 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
17.3 Points per Watt (13%)
13.9 Points per Watt (10%)
18.2 Points per Watt (14%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 100% n=33

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3250U → 76% n=33

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 3200U → 74% n=33

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