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AMD Ryzen 5 3580U vs AMD Athlon Silver 3050U vs AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.

The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

AMD Athlon Silver 3050U

► remove from comparison AMD Athlon 3050U

The AMD Athlon Silver 3050U is a mobile processor for thin and light entry level laptops. It is based on the Picasso series (e.g. Ryzen 3000U APUs) and offers two Zen cores clocked at 2.3 to 3.2 GHz without SMT (two threads at once) and 4 MB of L3 Cache. The integrated graphics card is called Radeon RX Vega 2 and offers only 2 CUs (128 shaders) clocked at up to 1,100 MHz.

In Chromebooks, AMD calles the APU AMD Athlon Silver 3050C, but with the exact same specifications (and performance).

Performance

We have not tested a single system built around the 3050U, as of August 2023. Expect the chip to be just a few percentage points slower than the Athlon 3150U (two Zen cores, 4 threads, up to 3.3 GHz). This kind of performance should suffice for most day-to-day tasks but not much more than that.

Power consumption

This Athlon series chip has a default TDP of 15 W (also known as the long-term power limit). Laptop makers are free to change that to anything between 12 W and 25 W with clock speeds and peformance changing accordingly as a result. Either way, that's a tad too high to allow for passively cooled designs.

Last but not the least, the APU is built with a 14 nm process leading to poor, as of early 2023, energy efficiency.

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 3780U

The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U,a Microsoft Surface edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

While we have not tested a single system powered by the 3780U as of August 2023, it's safe to expect the chip to be about as fast as the Ryzen 7 3700U, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned.

ModelAMD Ryzen 5 3580UAMD Athlon Silver 3050UAMD Ryzen 7 3780U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)Dali (Zen)Picasso-U (Zen+)
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+)
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U2.4 - 3.3 GHz2 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U « 2.3 - 3.2 GHz2 / 2 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U « 2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
Clock2100 - 3700 MHz2300 - 3200 MHz2300 - 4000 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB192 KB384 KB
L2 Cache2 MB1 MB2 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 82 / 24 / 8
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm14 nm12 nm
max. Temp.105 °C95 °C105 °C
SocketFP5FP5FP5
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHADDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SMEDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 2 ( - 1100 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
26.2 pt (36%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
352 Points (39%)
290 Points (32%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1549 Points (4%)
1580 Points (4%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
693 Points (4%)
788 Points (5%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
139 Points (42%)
166 Points (50%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
7.8 Points (10%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.7 Points (41%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4525 Points (27%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
18307 Points (13%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
274.7 s (3%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
7.2 s (1%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2924 Points (5%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
15209 MIPS (9%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
3572 MIPS (43%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
40.1 fps (14%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
135.3 fps (31%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
4.1 fps (7%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.6 GB/s (10%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
3.5 GB/s (9%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
710 Seconds (5%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (12%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (19%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
6856 Points (19%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
47473 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
48287 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
52082 Points (44%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
6687 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
9805 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
2898 Points (12%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
900 Points (38%)
743 Points (31%)
940 Points (40%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
2990 Points (5%)
1429 Points (3%)
3050 Points (5%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 Points (4%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 Points (11%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 Points (53%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 Points (29%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
1243 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
28517 Points (26%)
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
41.1 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
40 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
17.3 Points per Watt (13%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 100% n=2

Average Benchmarks AMD Athlon Silver 3050U → 65% n=2

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 103% n=2

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