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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 vs ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830

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The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 is a performance class DirectX 11 capable graphics card for laptops / notebooks by AMD. Technically the HD5830 is a slower clocked HD 5850 without the support for fast GDDR5 graphics memory. Therefore, the 128 bit memory bus in conjunction with DDR3 memory may be a performance bottleneck. As all cards of the Mobility HD 5800 series, the HD 5830 is based on the desktop HD 5770 (RV840) chip. 

The memory interface of the Mobility 5830 is composed out of two 64 bit wide controllers leading to a 128 bit memory bus that can access up to 1024 MB of DDR3. Because of the small bus width and the lack of GDDR5 memory, the memory performance should be the bottleneck of this card.

The 5830 offers 800 MADD cores (called Stream Processors) which are grouped in 160 5-dimensional groups. The cores support DirectX 11 functions in hardware (Tessellation, OIT, Post-Processing, Shadows, HDR Texture Compression). Furthermore, 16 ROPs, 40TMUs, and 40 TAUs can be found on the chip. All in all the chip can deliver up to 0.8 TFLOPs.

According to AMD, the HD 5000 series was also improved regarding general computing (as the HD4000 series was not optimized for this). Therefore, the performance of ATI stream, OpenCL, and DirectCompute 11 applications should be noticable better.

The 3D performance of the Mobility HD 5830 should be in the performance class of the GTS 250M - GTX 260M and therefore capable of generating fluent framerates in all current games (2009). High end games like Crysis wont run in very high details, but most games should run with playable framerates.

The Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series includes an improved video processor (UVD2) to decode HD videos with the graphic card. The new version is able to decode two HD streams simultaneously (e.g., for Blu-Ray picture in picture) if the graphic card offers enough memory bandwidth (only GDDR5 versions - and therefore perhaps not in the HD5830?). Since the Flash 10.1 Beta, the 5000 series is also able to help accelerate Flash HD videos (like YouTube).

A special feature of the HD 5000 series is its ability to transmit HD audio formats (like Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio) with up to 8 channels and 192 KHz / 24 Bit over HDMI 1.3a.

As the desktop HD 5000 series, the Mobility HD 5830 also supports Eyefinity to connect up to 6 monitors to the graphics chip. Of course, this depends on how many and what kind of monitor outputs the laptop vendor adds to the laptop (and how they are wired). It seems like only DisplayPort outputs support Eyefinity and therefore up to now only one laptop supports more than 2 displays (Envy 17).

The power consumption of 24 Watt (according to AMD) is not that high. Therefore, this GPU could also be used in 15-16" laptops.

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire

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The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire (CF) (or ATI Mobility Radeon HD5870 X2) is a high-end DirectX 11 capable graphics solution for notebooks by AMD. It consists of two single Mobility HD5870 cards bound together using Crossfire (similar to Nvidia's SLI). In this setup, alternate frame rendering (AFR) is the most common rendering technique. At the time of announcement (Jan 2010), the 5870 CF paired with GDDR5 memory was the fastest laptop graphics solution available. Technically, the chip is based on the desktop Radeon HD 5770 (RV840), but with a slower clock rate.

Because each card renders a different frame, the Crossfire solution may suffer from micro stuttering at the 20-30 FPS range as there are irregular delays between sequential frames. Therefore, the Crossfire HD 5870 may need higher framerates for fluent gameplay.

The memory interface of the Mobility 5870 is composed of two 64 bit wide controllers leading to a 128 bit memory bus that can access up to 1024 MB of DDR3 or GDDR5 memory. If DDR3 is used by the laptop vendor, then the graphics performance will suffer noticeably.

The HD5870 CF offers 2x800 MADD cores (called Stream Processors) which are grouped in 2x160 5-dimensional groups. The cores support DirectX 11 functions in hardware (Tessellation, OIT, Post-Processing, Shadows, HDR Texture Compression). Furthermore, 16 ROPs, 40 TMUs, and 40 TAUs can be found on each chip. All in all, 2x1040 Million transistors offer a theoretic computation power of up to 2x1.12 TFLOPS. 

According to AMD, the HD 5000 series was also improved with regards to general computing. For comparison, the HD 4000 series received no such optimizations. Therefore, the performance of ATI stream, OpenCL, and DirectCompute 11 applications should be noticably better with the Mobility 5870 Crossfire.

Compared to the previous generation (in this case the Mobility Radeon HD 4870 X2), the HD5870 X2 should be about 20% faster according to AMD. This is only valid for a GDDR5 version of the HD5870 (otherwise the memory bus would be the bottle neck). The gaming performance of the CF solution should be sufficient for all current games (2009-2010) in high resolution and high detail settings with some AA enabled. Compared to a GeForce GTX 285M SLI, the 5870 CF should be faster (altough the SLI driver support by Nvidia has been known to be a bit more superior).

The Mobility Radeon HD 5000 series includes an improved video processor (UVD2) to decode HD videos with the graphics card. The new version is able to decode two HD streams simultaneously (e.g., for Blu-Ray picture in picture) if the graphics card offers enough memory bandwidth (possibly only versions with GDDR5). Since Flash 10.1 Beta, the 5000 series has also been able to help accelerate Flash HD videos (like YouTube).

A special feature of the HD 5000 series is its ability to transmit HD audio formats (like Dolby True HD or DTS HD Master Audio) with up to 8 channels and 192 kHz / 24 Bit over HDMI 1.3a.

As the desktop HD 5000 series, the Mobility HD 5870 also supports Eyefinity to connect up to 6 monitors to the graphics chip. Of course, this depends on how many monitor outputs the laptop vendor adds to the notebook and how they are wired. Most laptops will support up to three screens simultaneously (one internal and two external).

Due to the high power consumption of the Mobility Radeon HD 5870 CF, it is only suited for large laptops with good (and possibly loud) cooling solutions. According to AMD, the performance per watt ratio (same power consumption, better performance) and the idle power consumption have been improved (thanks to Memory Clock Scaling and Clock Gating). Furthermore, the chip does support PowerXpress (with an AMD chipset) and Switchable Graphics (Intel) to switch between the dedicated and chipset / integrated graphics card.

Compared to desktop graphics cards, the Mobility Radeon HD 5870 CF should perform somewhere between a Radeon HD 5750 and 5770 in Crossfire mode based on the shader count of the 5770 and the clock rate of 5750.

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
ManufacturerATIATI
Mobility Radeon HD 5800 Series
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire 1600 @ 0.7 GHz128 Bit @ 1000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 compare 800 @ 0.7 GHz128 Bit @ 1000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5850 compare 800 @ 0.63 GHz128 Bit @ 2000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5830 800 @ 0.5 GHz128 Bit @ 800 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire 1600 @ 0.7 GHz128 Bit @ 1000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 compare 800 @ 0.7 GHz128 Bit @ 1000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5850 compare 800 @ 0.63 GHz128 Bit @ 2000 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 5830 800 @ 0.5 GHz128 Bit @ 800 MHz
CodenameBroadwayBroadway-XT
ArchitectureTerascale 2Terascale 2
Pipelines800 - unified1600 - unified
Core Speed500 MHz700 MHz
Memory Speed800 MHz1000 MHz
Memory Bus Width128 Bit128 Bit
Memory TypeDDR3, GDDR3DDR3, GDDR3, GDDR5
Max. Amount of Memory1024 MB2x1024 MB
Shared Memorynono
DirectXDirectX 11, Shader 5.0DirectX 11, Shader 5.0
technology40 nm40 nm
FeaturesEyefinity (up to 6 displays), HD Audio (Dolby True HD, DTS HD), HDMI 1.3a, Avivo HD (UVD2.2)Eyefinity (up to 6 displays), HD Audio (Dolby True HD, DTS HD), HDMI 1.3a, Avivo HD (UVD2.2)
Notebook Sizelargelarge
Date of Announcement07.01.2010 07.01.2010
Information1.0 TFLOPS2x1.12 TFLOPS
Link to Manufacturer Pagehttp://www.amd.com/us/products/notebook/...

Benchmarks

3DMark Vantage
3DM Vant. Perf. total + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. total
min: 4528     avg: 4785     median: 4785 (5%)     max: 5042 Points
3DM Vant. Perf. total + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
min: 12384     avg: 13697     median: 13046 (13%)     max: 17106 Points
3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX
min: 3996     avg: 4243     median: 4242.5 (4%)     max: 4489 Points
3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
min: 13021     avg: 14096     median: 13691 (13%)     max: 15981 Points
3DMark 03 - 3DMark 03 - Standard
63595 Points (33%)
3DMark 05 - 3DMark 05 - Standard
19079 Points (28%)
3DMark 06 3DMark 06 - Standard 1280x1024 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830
3DMark 06
min: 7410     avg: 8011     median: 8050 (15%)     max: 8574 Points
3DMark 06 - Standard 1280x1024 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
min: 14188     avg: 16596     median: 16521 (31%)     max: 19080 Points
Unigine Heaven 2.1 - Heaven 2.1 high
42.5 fps (8%)
SPECviewperf 11
specvp11 snx-01 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 snx-01
19.3 fps (14%)
specvp11 tcvis-02 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 tcvis-02
13.4 fps (22%)
specvp11 sw-02 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 sw-02
17.2 fps (21%)
specvp11 proe-05 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 proe-05
2.9 fps (12%)
specvp11 maya-03 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 maya-03
25.1 fps (19%)
specvp11 lightwave-01 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 lightwave-01
16.3 fps (17%)
specvp11 ensight-04 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 ensight-04
7.5 fps (4%)
specvp11 catia-03 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
SPECviewperf 11 - specvp11 catia-03
5 fps (6%)
Windows 7 Experience Index - Win7 Gaming graphics
7.2 Points (91%)
Windows 7 Experience Index - Win7 Graphics
7.2 Points (91%)
Cinebench R10 Cinebench R10 Shading (32bit) + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Shading (32bit)
6385 (30%)
Cinebench R11.5 Cinebench R11.5 OpenGL 64 Bit + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 OpenGL 64 Bit
39.4 fps (17%)

Average Benchmarks ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5830 → 100% n=3

Average Benchmarks ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire → 267% n=3

- Range of benchmark values for this graphics card
- Average benchmark values for this graphics card
* Smaller numbers mean a higher performance
1 This benchmark is not used for the average calculation

Game Benchmarks

The following benchmarks stem from our benchmarks of review laptops. The performance depends on the used graphics memory, clock rate, processor, system settings, drivers, and operating systems. So the results don't have to be representative for all laptops with this GPU. For detailed information on the benchmark results, click on the fps number.

Fifa 11

Fifa 11

2010
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
250.4  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
167.3  fps
high 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
83.9  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
58.7  fps
Mafia 2

Mafia 2

2010
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
56.7  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
56.6  fps
high 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
56.9  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
56.8  fps
low 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
158.8  fps
med. 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
57.9  fps
high 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
57.9  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
51.2  fps
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
87.5 fps  fps
med. 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
79.9 fps  fps
high 1600x900
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
52.7 fps  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
18 fps  fps
low 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
113.9 fps  fps
med. 1366x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
103.9 fps  fps
high 1366x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
96.8 fps  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
57.7 fps  fps
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
163.3 fps  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
97.3 fps  fps
high 1366x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
95.4 fps  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
81.4 fps  fps
Risen

Risen

2009
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
94.3 fps  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
81 fps  fps
high 1366x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
75.8 fps  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
62.5 fps  fps
Resident Evil 5

Resident Evil 5

2009
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
95.5  fps
high 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
78.5  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
77.9  fps
Need for Speed Shift

Need for Speed Shift

2009
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
47.6 fps  fps
high 1366x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
32.6 fps  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
21.5 fps  fps
Colin McRae: DIRT 2

Colin McRae: DIRT 2

2009
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
107.7  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
88.7  fps
high 1360x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
78.2  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
56.6  fps
Anno 1404

Anno 1404

2009
low 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
131.6  fps
ultra 1280x1024
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
59.1  fps
F.E.A.R. 2

F.E.A.R. 2

2009
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
147.6  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
97.8  fps
high 1280x1024
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
97.1  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
92.9  fps
Left 4 Dead

Left 4 Dead

2008
low 640x480
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
147.3  fps
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
116  fps
Far Cry 2

Far Cry 2

2008
low 640x480
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
123.4  fps
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
93.4  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
62  fps
Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare

Call of Duty 4 - Modern Warfare

2007
low 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
197.7  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
131.7  fps
high 1280x1024
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
119.6  fps
Crysis - GPU Benchmark

Crysis - GPU Benchmark

2007
low 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
99.5  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
60.7  fps
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
51.3  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
29.7  fps
Crysis - CPU Benchmark

Crysis - CPU Benchmark

2007
low 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
123.8  fps
med. 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
60.5  fps
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
49.6  fps
ultra 1920x1080
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
28.9  fps
Call of Juarez Benchmark

Call of Juarez Benchmark

2006
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
110.6  fps
Half Life 2 - Lost Coast Benchmark

Half Life 2 - Lost Coast Benchmark

2005
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 5870 Crossfire:
198.3  fps

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