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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 vs ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850

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The AMD ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 is a slower clocked desktop HD 3850 and manufactured in 55 nm. It supports DirectX 10.1 in hardware and also features the Avivo HD video engine to help the CPU decode videos. The card is intended to be used in large laptops.

 

The performance of the graphics card is between the GeForce 8700M GT and the 8800M GTS. The ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 of the successor generation performed similar but with a much lower power consumption. Therefore, the performance should be sufficient for DirectX 9 games in medium to high details (see games list beyond).

The RV670 chip has 64 5-dimensional unified shaders with 16 ROPs, 16 TMUs, and 32 TAUs.

The Avivo HD video engine helps the cpu in decoding HD videos (MPEG-2, H.264, VC-1). The HD 3850 houses the UVD+ (Unified Video Decoder) that is capable of decoding MPEG-2, H.265/AVC, and VC-1 nearly fully. The UVD2 in the HD 4000 generation is capable of full bitstream decoding and two video streams can be decoded at once (which UVD+ can not).

Compared to desktop graphics cards, the HD 3850 is similar to the Radeon HD 3850 but features a much lower clock speed, leading to a worse performance.

The power consumption of the HD 3800 series lies between 35-55 Watt.

 

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2

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The Mobility Radeon X3870 X2 combines two Mobility Radeon 3870 graphics cards (on MXM boards) onto one laptop in Crossfire (CF) mode. Therefore, the combination has a power consumption of roughly both cards combined. While the total available VRAM has been doubled, the effective VRAM is actually half of the combined total as each card must store the same textures and data onto their own respective onboard VRAM chips.

Depending on the application, the performance of the Radeon X3870 X2 about 0-40 percent above a single Mobility HD 3870 and is even a bit above the GeForce 8800M GTX SLI solution. Most, if not all, DirectX 9 games can run fluently in high resolutions and detail settings. More demanding DirectX 10 games, such as Crysis,  will only run acceptably well on medium to high detail settings with lowered resolutions.

As with all multi-GPU solutions, the HD 3870 X2 may suffer from a phenomenon known as micro stuttering. See here for an overview of the term and why it happens.

Hardware features that can be found on a single Mobility HD 3870 have been preserved in the Crossfire combination. As a result, the dual GPU setup can take advantage of Avivo HD in order to aid the CPU in decoding videos.

The power consumption of the Mobility 3870 X2 can be up to 110 Watt when including the MXM boards and VRAM chips. AMD specifies that the HD 3800 series can draw up to 33-55 Watt per card.

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2
Mobility Radeon HD 3800 Series
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2 640 @ 0.66 GHz256 Bit @ 850 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 3850 320 @ 0.58 GHz256 Bit @ 750 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2 640 @ 0.66 GHz256 Bit @ 850 MHz
Mobility Radeon HD 3850 320 @ 0.58 GHz256 Bit @ 750 MHz
CodenameM88M88-XT CF
ArchitectureRV6xxRV6xx
Pipelines320 - unified640 - unified
Core Speed580 MHz660 MHz
Memory Speed750 MHz850 MHz
Memory Bus Width256 Bit256 Bit
Memory TypeGDDR3GDDR3
Shared Memorynono
APIDirectX 10.1, Shader 4.1DirectX 10.1, Shader 4.0
Power Consumption55 Watt110 Watt
Transistors666 Million1.3 Billion
technology55 nm55 nm
FeaturesHDMI, Dual-Link DVI (wenn vom Hersteller verbaut), HDCP, PCI-Express 2.0
Notebook Sizelargelarge
Date of Announcement01.12.2007 01.09.2008
Information55nm, Display Port with external transmitter
Link to Manufacturer Pageati.amd.com

Benchmarks

3DMark Vantage
3DM Vant. Perf. total + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. total
min: 1653     avg: 1880     median: 1879.5 (1%)     max: 2106 Points
3DM Vant. Perf. total + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2
min: 6625     avg: 6895     median: 6894.5 (2%)     max: 7164 Points
3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX
1928 Points (1%)
3DM Vant. Perf. GPU no PhysX + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2
6498 Points (4%)
3DMark 2001SE - 3DMark 2001 - Standard
min: 35136     avg: 37543     median: 37542.5 (39%)     max: 39949 Points
3DMark 03 - 3DMark 03 - Standard
18761 Points (10%)
min: 53261     avg: 55111     median: 55742 (29%)     max: 56330 Points
3DMark 05 - 3DMark 05 - Standard
8816 Points (10%)
min: 17271     avg: 19187     median: 20115 (22%)     max: 20175 Points
3DMark 06 3DMark 06 - Score Unknown Settings + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850
3DMark 06
6114 Points (8%)
3DMark 06 - Standard 1280x1024 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850
3DMark 06
min: 6075     avg: 6095     median: 6095 (8%)     max: 6115 Points
3DMark 06 - Standard 1280x1024 + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2
min: 11290     avg: 13435     median: 13815.5 (18%)     max: 14820 Points
Cinebench R10 Cinebench R10 Shading (32bit) + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Shading (32bit)
2756 Points (2%)
Cinebench R10 Shading (32bit) + ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2
4357 Points (3%)

Average Benchmarks ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 → 100% n=6

Average Benchmarks ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2 → 269% n=6

- Range of benchmark values for this graphics card
- Average benchmark values for this graphics card
* Smaller numbers mean a higher performance
1 This benchmark is not used for the average calculation

Game Benchmarks

The following benchmarks stem from our benchmarks of review laptops. The performance depends on the used graphics memory, clock rate, processor, system settings, drivers, and operating systems. So the results don't have to be representative for all laptops with this GPU. For detailed information on the benchmark results, click on the fps number.

Crysis - GPU Benchmark

Crysis - GPU Benchmark

2007
low 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
32.1  fps
211%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
67.7  fps
med. 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
27  fps
136%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
36.6  fps
high 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
21.1  fps
147%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
30.9  fps
Crysis - CPU Benchmark

Crysis - CPU Benchmark

2007
low 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
37.1  fps
227%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
84.1  fps
med. 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
23.8  fps
157%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
37.3  fps
high 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
19.7  fps
153%
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
30.1  fps
Call of Juarez Benchmark

Call of Juarez Benchmark

2006
high 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
66  fps
The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion

The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion

2006
high 1280x800
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
60  fps
F.E.A.R.

F.E.A.R.

2005
low 640x480
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
144  fps
med. 800x600
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
22  fps
high 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
21  fps
Doom 3

Doom 3

2004
low 640x480
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
191  fps
med. 640x480
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
191.7  fps
high 800x600
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
190.3  fps
ultra 1024x768
Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2:
181.8  fps
Quake 3 Arena - Timedemo

Quake 3 Arena - Timedemo

1999
high 1024x768
100%
Mobility Radeon HD 3850:
343.8  fps

Average Gaming ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850 → 100%

Average Gaming 30-70 fps → 100%

Average Gaming ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2 → 172%

Average Gaming 30-70 fps → 161%

ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3850lowmed.highultraQHD4K
Crysis - GPU Benchmark32.127.0121.09
Crysis - CPU Benchmark37.1123.7719.66
F.E.A.R.1442221
Quake 3 Arena - Timedemo343.8
< 30 fps
< 60 fps
< 120 fps
≥ 120 fps

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ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3870 X2lowmed.highultraQHD4K
Crysis - GPU Benchmark67.736.630.9
Crysis - CPU Benchmark84.137.330.1
Call of Juarez Benchmark66
The Elder Scrolls IV - Oblivion60
Doom 3191191.7190.3181.8
< 30 fps
< 60 fps
< 120 fps
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