Intel Core i5-8265U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

Intel Core i5-8265U

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The Intel Core i5-8265U is a power efficient quad-core SoC for notebooks and Ultrabooks based on the Whiskey Lake generation and will probably be announced in August 2018. Compared to the similar named Kaby Lake-R processors (e.g. Core i5-8250U), the Whiskey Lake CPUs are now produced in a further improved 14nm process (14nm++) and offer higher clock speeds. The architecture and features are the same. The i5-8265U offers e.g. high Turbo clock speeds of 3,9 GHz (versus 3,4 GHz of the i5-8250U) for a single core (3.8 for two cores, 3.7 GHz for all four cores). The integrated GPU is still named Intel UHD Graphics 620 and the dual-channel memory controller still supports the same RAM speeds as Kaby-Lake-R (DDR4-2400 / LPDDR3-2133). Thermal Velocity Boost is not supported (only in the Core i7-8565U).

The Whiskey Lake SoCs are used with a new PCH produced in 14nm that supports USB 3.1 Gen 2 (10 Gbps) and CNVi WiFi/BT parts.

Architecture

Intel basically uses the same micro architecture compared to Skylake and Kaby Lake, so the per-MHz performance does not differ. That means Whiskey Lake is a Kaby Lake chip manufactured in the improved 14nm++ process.

Performance

The performance of the i5-8265U depends on the cooling solution of the laptop and the defined TDP limits for short and long term performance. We already saw big differences for Kaby Lake-R (e.g., i7-8550U benchmarks), especially for long term (sustained) performance. Therefore, it will be interesting to see how the additionalTurbo  clock speed can be made use of. For the Core i7, Intel estimates between 3-11% higher performance to the Kaby-Lake-R generation and that should be similar in the Core i5 (as long as the cooling is sufficient).

Graphics

The integrated Intel UHD Graphics 620 (Intel Gen 9.5) is untouched from the 8th Gen Kaby Lake chips. With fast dual-channel memory it can reach the performance of a dedicated GeForce 920M.

Contrary to Skylake, Kaby Lake and Whiskey Lake now also supports H.265/HEVC Main 10 with a 10-bit color depth as well as Google's VP9 codec. The dual-core Kaby Lake processors announced in January should also support HDCP 2.2.

Power Consumption

The chip is manufactured in a further improved 14nm process with FinFET transistors (14nm++), the same as the 8th Gen Coffee Lake processors. Intel still specifies the TDP with 15 Watts, which is typical for ULV chips. Depending on the usage scenario, the TDP can vary between 7.5 (cTDP Down) and 25 Watts.

Warning: Above information is partly still based on rumors and leaks and may therefore change till release.

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

Intel Core i5-8265UAMD Ryzen 5 3500U
Intel Core i5AMD Ryzen 5
Whiskey Lake-UZen+
: Ryzen 5 Zen+
Intel Core i5-8365U (compare)1600 - 4100 MHz4 / 86 MB
» Intel Core i5-8265U1600 - 3900 MHz4 / 86 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 2600X (compare)3600 - 4200 MHz6 / 1216 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 2600 (compare)3400 - 3900 MHz6 / 1216 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
1600 - 3900 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
256 KB384 KB
1 MB2 MB
6 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 8
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BGA1528AM4
Dual-Channel DDR4 Memory Controller, HyperThreading, AVX, AVX2, Quick Sync, Virtualization, AES-NIXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUIntel UHD Graphics 620 (300 - 1100 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)
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Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
min: 325     avg: 390.3     median: 399 (78%)     max: 403 Points
min: 349     avg: 362     median: 362 (70%)     max: 372 Points
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
min: 1103     avg: 1337.7     median: 1367 (20%)     max: 1564 Points
min: 1294     avg: 1431.5     median: 1463 (21%)     max: 1493 Points
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
min: 457     avg: 594.2     median: 601 (14%)     max: 750 Points
min: 491     avg: 631.2     median: 646 (15%)     max: 665 Points
Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
min: 111     avg: 154.9     median: 158 (72%)     max: 164 Points
min: 137     avg: 142.4     median: 143 (66%)     max: 147 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Multi 64Bit
min: 5     avg: 6     median: 5 (11%)     max: 7 Points
7.6 Points (17%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Single 64Bit
1.8 Points (90%)
1.7 Points (83%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
min: 5841     avg: 6044     median: 6082 (62%)     max: 6209 Points
min: 4542     avg: 4555.7     median: 4560 (47%)     max: 4565 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
min: 16318     avg: 18952.2     median: 19418 (30%)     max: 22962 Points
min: 16980     avg: 17346.3     median: 17481 (27%)     max: 17578 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 64Bit
min: 18924     avg: 21959     median: 21775 (29%)     max: 25361 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single CPUs 64Bit
min: 7705     avg: 7879.5     median: 7919 (76%)     max: 7975 Points
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
min: 371     avg: 402.4     median: 402 (5%)     max: 433 seconds
368.3 seconds (4%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
min: 9     avg: 11     median: 11 (2%)     max: 12 seconds
12.9 seconds (3%)
WinRAR - Result
min: 3215     avg: 4039.7     median: 3988 (47%)     max: 4916 KB/s
2455 KB/s (29%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
min: 14779     avg: 16847     median: 17229 (17%)     max: 18802 MIPS
min: 16902     avg: 16977     median: 16977 (16%)     max: 17052 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
min: 3780     avg: 4072.6     median: 4156 (60%)     max: 4195 MIPS
min: 3530     avg: 3555     median: 3555 (51%)     max: 3580 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
min: 31     avg: 37.2     median: 39 (22%)     max: 40 fps
39.2 fps (22%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
min: 150     avg: 158.7     median: 156 (58%)     max: 169 fps
134.8 fps (50%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
min: 3     avg: 4.4     median: 4 (13%)     max: 4 fps
min: 3     avg: 4     median: 3 (10%)     max: 4 fps
TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
0.5 GB/s (23%)
0.4 GB/s (22%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
0.8 GB/s (25%)
0.7 GB/s (22%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
4.3 GB/s (22%)
4.4 GB/s (22%)
Blender 2.79 *
min: 769     avg: 844.7     median: 825 (9%)     max: 959 Seconds
min: 682     avg: 689     median: 689 (7%)     max: 696 Seconds
3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 5637     avg: 6330.4     median: 6316 (42%)     max: 7439 Points
6857 Points (46%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
min: 9     avg: 10     median: 9 (2%)     max: 10 Seconds
12 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
22.3 Seconds (1%)
27.8 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
min: 542     avg: 561.6     median: 552 (2%)     max: 590 Seconds
697.1 Seconds (3%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
min: 4154     avg: 6366.3     median: 6279 (32%)     max: 8443 points
min: 5213     avg: 5997.5     median: 5922 (30%)     max: 6542 points
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 21036     avg: 38610     median: 36622 (24%)     max: 50513 Points
min: 29562     avg: 34747.2     median: 30215 (19%)     max: 48997 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
min: 21037     avg: 37535.4     median: 36912 (44%)     max: 48588 Points
min: 30656     avg: 35865.2     median: 31869 (38%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
min: 23095     avg: 49269.4     median: 52630 (61%)     max: 56737 Points
min: 26201     avg: 37835.8     median: 35073 (41%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 3393     avg: 5784.6     median: 5607 (14%)     max: 8298 Points
min: 5310     avg: 6319.2     median: 6439 (16%)     max: 7132 Points
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
min: 4640     avg: 7946.8     median: 8001 (25%)     max: 11278 Points
min: 7744     avg: 8982.4     median: 8868 (27%)     max: 9982 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Stream
min: 10592     avg: 10595.5     median: 10595 (85%)     max: 10599 Points
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Memory
min: 8582     avg: 8660     median: 8660 (79%)     max: 8738 Points
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Floating Point
min: 11914     avg: 12181     median: 12181 (21%)     max: 12448 Points
16467 Points (28%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Integer
min: 12671     avg: 13099     median: 13099 (23%)     max: 13527 Points
12317 Points (21%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Total Score
min: 11598     avg: 11639     median: 11639 (27%)     max: 11680 Points
11917 Points (27%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 12198     avg: 13659.2     median: 14002 (17%)     max: 14499 Points
min: 12999     avg: 13075     median: 13081 (16%)     max: 13145 Points
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3470     avg: 3668.8     median: 3678 (75%)     max: 3842 Points
min: 3258     avg: 3404.3     median: 3477 (71%)     max: 3478 Points
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 12221     avg: 13021     median: 13021 (35%)     max: 13821 Points
13873 Points (37%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3805     avg: 3906     median: 3906 (79%)     max: 4007 Points
3682 Points (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Compute OpenCL Score
min: 33778     avg: 39250.7     median: 37904 (13%)     max: 46070 Points
27192 Points (9%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 13168     avg: 13975.3     median: 14368 (48%)     max: 14390 Points
10597 Points (35%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 4229     avg: 4422.3     median: 4433 (74%)     max: 4605 Points
3669 Points (61%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 2106     avg: 4356.7     median: 4481 (71%)     max: 4830 Points
min: 3400     avg: 3694.8     median: 3701 (58%)     max: 3906 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 7144     avg: 13552.8     median: 13582 (24%)     max: 16249 Points
min: 10099     avg: 11069.2     median: 11299 (20%)     max: 11837 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 986     avg: 1005.3     median: 1003 (75%)     max: 1027 Points
min: 886     avg: 887     median: 887 (66%)     max: 888 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 2973     avg: 3327.7     median: 3129 (18%)     max: 3881 Points
min: 3067     avg: 3071.5     median: 3071 (18%)     max: 3076 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
min: 850     avg: 1164.5     median: 1197 (2%)     max: 1245 ms
min: 1237     avg: 1352.9     median: 1296 (2%)     max: 1692 ms
Sunspider - 1.0 Total Score *
min: 83     avg: 93.5     median: 95 (1%)     max: 99 ms
128.8 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
min: 12842     avg: 31255.9     median: 32225 (61%)     max: 35563 Points
min: 19083     avg: 26191.8     median: 27883 (53%)     max: 29237 Points

Average Benchmarks Intel Core i5-8265U → 100%

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3500U → 93%

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