AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U is a mobile SoC for business laptops that was announced in April  2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 5 3500U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 PRO 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
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: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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2 MB2 MB
4 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 8
15 15
4500 4500
12 12
AM4AM4
XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) PRO 3500U

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
369 Points (72%)
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
1349 Points (15%)
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
611 Points (14%)
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
144 Points (66%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
16531 MIPS (18%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
3516 MIPS (23%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
3.6 fps (13%)
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Blender 2.79 *
786 Seconds (6%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
6412 points (31%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
43514 Points (28%)
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
6090 Points (15%)
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
9070 Points (31%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3820 Points (60%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10419 Points (18%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
1325 ms (2%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
27689 Points (53%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U → 100%

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