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AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 3780U

The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U,a Microsoft Surface edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

While we have not tested a single system powered by the 3780U as of August 2023, it's safe to expect the chip to be about as fast as the Ryzen 7 3700U, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned.

AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U

► remove from comparison AMD R3 PRO 3300U

The AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (no SMT / Hyperthreading so only 4 threads) clocked at 2.1 - 3.5 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 6 graphics card with 6 CUs (384 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar consumer variant Ryzen 3 3300U, the PRO model features additional management and security features (e.g., full memory encryption) and longer warranty / availability.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows for higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U should be similar to the Ryzen 5 PRO 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz but with SMT).

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3580U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U, a Microsoft Surface Edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics adapter with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3580U in our extensive database is in the same league as the Core i5-1035G7 and also the Core i7-10510U, as far as multi-thread benchmark scores are concerned. This is a fairly decent result, as of mid 2021.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop manufacturers - or should we say, Microsoft - are allowed to change to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing correspondingly. Those values are not low enough to allow for fan-free designs, for better or worse.

The CPU is built with a fairly old, as of late 2022, 12 nm process for lower-than-average energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300UAMD Ryzen 5 3580U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)Zen+Picasso-U (Zen+)
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+)
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U « 2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 3350U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U « 2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 4 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
Clock2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3500 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB384 KB384 KB
L2 Cache2 MB2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 84 / 44 / 8
TDP15 Watt15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm12 nm12 nm
max. Temp.105 °C105 °C
SocketFP5AM4FP5
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHAXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHA
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 6 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)
Architecturex86x86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3580U
26.2 pt (36%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (32%)
352 Points (39%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (4%)
1549 Points (4%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
788 Points (5%)
481 Points (3%)
693 Points (4%)
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
166 Points (50%)
126 Points (38%)
139 Points (42%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
5.5 Points (7%)
7.8 Points (10%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.4 Points (36%)
1.7 Points (41%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
4525 Points (27%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
18307 Points (13%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (64bit)
22657 Points (16%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (64bit)
6410 Points (8%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
274.7 s (3%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
7.2 s (1%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2924 Points (5%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
15209 MIPS (9%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
3572 MIPS (43%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
40.1 fps (14%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
135.3 fps (31%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
4.1 fps (7%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.6 GB/s (10%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
3.5 GB/s (9%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
710 Seconds (5%)
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (12%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
21501 Points (19%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
5408 Points (15%)
6856 Points (19%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
47473 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
48287 Points (39%)
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
52082 Points (44%)
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
4646 Points (12%)
6687 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
6596 Points (12%)
9805 Points (17%)
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
2898 Points (12%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
940 Points (40%)
900 Points (38%)
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
3050 Points (5%)
2990 Points (5%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 Points (4%)
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 Points (11%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3908 Points (53%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
11829 Points (29%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
1243 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
28517 Points (26%)
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
41.1 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
40 Watt (7%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
17.3 Points per Watt (13%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100% n=2

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U → 68% n=2

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 86% n=2

- Range of benchmark values for this graphics card
- Average benchmark values for this graphics card
* Smaller numbers mean a higher performance
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