AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 5 3580U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in October 2019 as part of the Surface Book 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 9 graphics card with 9 CUs (576 Shaders) clocked at up to 1300 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. Compared to the similar Ryzen 5 3500U, the 3580 integrates a faster GPU with 9 instead of 8 CUs.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

As the Ryzen 5 3580U CPU specification is identical to the Ryzen 5 3500U, the processor performance should be similar. AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U and 3580U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 5 3580U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+
: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3580U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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2 MB2 MB
4 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 8
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4500 4500
12 12
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XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 9 ( - 1300 MHz)

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
352 Points (68%)
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
1549 Points (17%)
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
693 Points (16%)
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
139 Points (64%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Multi 64Bit
7.8 Points (20%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Single 64Bit
1.7 Points (67%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
4525 Points (46%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
18307 Points (31%)
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
275 seconds (3%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
7.2 seconds (1%)
WinRAR - Result
2924 KB/s (34%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
15209 MIPS (16%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
3572 MIPS (24%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
40.1 fps (25%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
135 fps (48%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
4.1 fps (15%)
TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
0.4 GB/s (21%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
0.6 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
3.5 GB/s (18%)
Blender 2.79 *
710 Seconds (5%)
3DMark 06 - CPU
5545 Points (37%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.2 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
694 Seconds (3%)
3DMark Vantage - P CPU no PhysX 1280x1024
21501 Points (30%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
6856 points (34%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
47473 Points (31%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
48287 Points (58%)
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
52082 Points (60%)
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
6687 Points (17%)
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
9805 Points (33%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3908 Points (62%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
11829 Points (33%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
1243 ms (2%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
28517 Points (54%)
Power Consumption - Prime95 V28,10 Stress Power Consumption (external Monitor) ultra *
100%
1 3580U +
41.1 Watt (11%)
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption (external Monitor) ultra *
100%
1 3580U +
40 Watt (11%)

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3580U → 100%

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Redaktion, 2017-09- 8 (Update: 2017-09-11)