AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

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The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U (Microsoft Surface Edition) is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 7 3780U should be slightly ahead the Ryzen 7 2700U. In our benchmark the Ryzen 7 3700U and therefore also the 3780U could not pull ahead much compared to the average Ryzen 7 2700U.

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

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The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.2 - 3.8 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 graphics card with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

AMD states that the Picasso APUs are about 8% faster than the predecessors. Therefore, the Ryzen 5 3500U should be ahead the Ryzen 5 2500U (2 - 3.6 GHz) and nearly on par with the Ryzen 7 2700U (2.2 - 3.8 GHz).

AMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 5 3500U
AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
Zen+Zen+
: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Zen+
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3750H (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 7 PRO 3700U (compare)2300 - 4000 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
» AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 3500U (compare)2100 - 3700 MHz4 / 84 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 PRO 3300U (compare)2100 - 3500 MHz4 / 44 MB
AMD Ryzen 3 3200U (compare)2600 - 3500 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Gold 3150U (compare)2600 - 3300 MHz2 / 44 MB
AMD Athlon Silver 3050U (compare)2300 - 3200 MHz2 / 24 MB
2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
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4 MB4 MB
4 / 84 / 8
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4500 4500
12 12
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XFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMTXFR, FMA3, SSE 4.2, AVX2, SMT
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 ( - 1200 MHz)

Cinebench R20 - CPU (Single Core)
min: 341     avg: 359     median: 361 (70%)     max: 372 Points
Cinebench R20 - CPU (Multi Core)
min: 1063     avg: 1379     median: 1451 (16%)     max: 1493 Points
Cinebench R15 - CPU Multi 64Bit
min: 482     avg: 626     median: 644 (15%)     max: 665 Points
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Cinebench R15 - CPU Single 64Bit
min: 131     avg: 141     median: 143 (66%)     max: 147 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Multi 64Bit
7.6 Points (20%)
Cinebench R11.5 - CPU Single 64Bit
1.7 Points (67%)
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Single 32Bit
min: 4542     avg: 4556     median: 4557.5 (47%)     max: 4565 Points
Cinebench R10 - Rendering Multiple CPUs 32Bit
min: 13249     avg: 16322     median: 17230.5 (29%)     max: 17578 Points
wPrime 2.0x - 1024m *
368 seconds (4%)
wPrime 2.0x - 32m *
12.9 seconds (3%)
WinRAR - Result
2455 KB/s (29%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4
min: 16902     avg: 16977     median: 16977 (18%)     max: 17052 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7z b 4 -mmt1
min: 3530     avg: 3555     median: 3555 (23%)     max: 3580 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 2
39.2 fps (25%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - Pass 1
135 fps (48%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - 4k Preset
min: 3.9     avg: 4     median: 4 (14%)     max: 4 fps
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TrueCrypt - Serpent Mean 100MB
0.4 GB/s (23%)
TrueCrypt - Twofish Mean 100MB
0.7 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - AES Mean 100MB
4.4 GB/s (23%)
Blender 2.79 *
min: 682     avg: 689     median: 689 (5%)     max: 696 Seconds
3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 5044     avg: 5951     median: 5950.5 (40%)     max: 6857 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 Seconds (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.8 Seconds (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M *
697 Seconds (3%)
3DMark Vantage - P CPU no PhysX 1280x1024
18229 Points (25%)
3DMark 11 - Performance Physics 1280x720
min: 5213     avg: 5916     median: 5743 (28%)     max: 6542 points
3DMark - Ice Storm Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 29562     avg: 34747     median: 30215 (19%)     max: 48997 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Extreme Physics 1920x1080
min: 30656     avg: 35865     median: 31869 (38%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen
min: 26201     avg: 37836     median: 35073.5 (41%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - Cloud Gate Standard Physics 1280x720
min: 5217     avg: 6162     median: 6335 (16%)     max: 7132 Points
3DMark - Fire Strike Physics 1920x1080
min: 7496     avg: 8861     median: 8868 (30%)     max: 9982 Points
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Stream
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Memory
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Floating Point
16467 Points (32%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Integer
12317 Points (25%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Total Score
11917 Points (31%)
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 9503     avg: 12182     median: 13040 (23%)     max: 13145 Points
Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3258     avg: 3405     median: 3442.5 (71%)     max: 3478 Points
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
13873 Points (22%)
Geekbench 3 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3682 Points (75%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
3669 Points (58%)
Geekbench 4.0 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
10597 Points (29%)
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 3400     avg: 3719     median: 3769.5 (59%)     max: 3906 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 10099     avg: 10999     median: 10972.5 (19%)     max: 11837 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 853     avg: 876     median: 886 (66%)     max: 888 Points
Geekbench 5 - 64 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 2654     avg: 2932     median: 3067 (19%)     max: 3076 Points
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score *
min: 1237.4     avg: 1345     median: 1295.6 (2%)     max: 1692.7 ms
Sunspider - 1.0 Total Score *
129 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Total Score
min: 19083     avg: 26353     median: 27809 (53%)     max: 29237 Points

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