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AMD Ryzen 7 3780U vs AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

AMD Ryzen 7 3780U

► remove from comparison AMD R7 3780U

The AMD Ryzen 7 3780U,a Microsoft Surface edition chip, is a mobile SoC that was announced in Oct 2019 as part of the new Surface Laptop 15. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.3 - 4 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 11 graphics card with 11 CUs (704 Shaders) clocked at up to 1400 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops.

Compared to the similar Ryzen 7 3700U, the 3780U offers the faster Vega 11 instead of the Vega 10 GPU.

The Picasso SoCs use the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPC (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12nm process allows higher clock rates at similar power consumptions.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

While we have not tested a single system powered by the 3780U as of August 2023, it's safe to expect the chip to be about as fast as the Ryzen 7 3700U, as far as multi-thread performance is concerned.

AMD Ryzen 5 3500U

► remove from comparison AMD R5 3500U

The AMD Ryzen 5 3500U is a mobile SoC that was announced in January 2019. It combines four Zen+ cores (8 threads) clocked at 2.1 GHz to 3.7 GHz with a Radeon RX Vega 8 iGPU with 8 CUs (512 Shaders) clocked at up to 1200 MHz. Specified at 15 Watt TDP, the SoC is intended for thin mid-range laptops. In Chromebooks, AMD calles the APU AMD Ryzen 5 3500C, but the specifications (and performance) are the same.

The Picasso SoC uses the Zen+ microarchitecture with slight improvements that should lead to a 3% IPS (performance per clock) improvements. Furthermore, the 12 nm process allows for higher clocks at similar power consumption.

The integrated dual-channel memory controller supports up to DDR4-2400 memory. As the features of the Picasso APUs are the same compared to the Raven Ridge predecessors, we point to our Raven Ridge launch article.

Performance

The average 3500U in our database matches the Intel Core i7-1065G7 in multi-thread performance to be an OK lower mid-range option, as of early 2021.

The Honor MagicBook 14 is among the fastest laptops powered by the 3500U that we know of. It can be up to 50% faster in CPU-bound workloads than the slowest system featuring the same chip in our database, as of August 2023.

Power consumption

This Ryzen 5 series chip has a default TDP (also known as the long-term power limit) of 15 W, a value that laptop makers are free to set to anything between 12 W and 35 W with clock speeds and performance changing accordingly as a result. Either way, this is a tad too high to allow for passively cooled designs.

The chip is manufactured on a 12 nm process for subpar, as of late 2022, energy efficiency.

ModelAMD Ryzen 7 3780UAMD Ryzen 5 3500U
SeriesAMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)AMD Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU)
CodenamePicasso-U (Zen+)Picasso-U (Zen+)
Series: Picasso (Ryzen 3000 APU) Picasso-U (Zen+)
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U « 2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3780U2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 7 3700U compare2.3 - 4 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3550H compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3500U « 2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3450U compare2.1 - 3.5 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
AMD Ryzen 5 3580U compare2.1 - 3.7 GHz4 / 8 cores4 MB L3
Clock2300 - 4000 MHz2100 - 3700 MHz
L1 Cache384 KB384 KB
L2 Cache2 MB2 MB
L3 Cache4 MB4 MB
Cores / Threads4 / 84 / 8
TDP15 Watt15 Watt
Transistors4500 Million4500 Million
Technology12 nm12 nm
max. Temp.105 °C105 °C
SocketFP5FP5
FeaturesDDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, AES, AVX, AVX2, FMA3, SHADDR4-2400 RAM, PCIe 3, MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4A, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AVX, AVX2, BMI2, ABM, FMA, ADX, SMEP, SMAP, SMT, CPB, AES-NI, RDRAND, RDSEED, SHA, SME
iGPUAMD Radeon RX Vega 11 ( - 1400 MHz)AMD Radeon RX Vega 8 (Ryzen 2000/3000) ( - 1200 MHz)
Architecturex86x86
Announced
Manufacturerwww.amd.comwww.amd.com

Benchmarks

Performance Rating - CB R15 + R20 + 7-Zip + X265 + Blender + 3DM11 CPU - R5 3500U
26.5 pt (37%)
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Single Core)
290 Points (32%)
min: 317     avg: 354.3     median: 364 (40%)     max: 372 Points
Cinebench R20 - Cinebench R20 CPU (Multi Core)
1580 Points (4%)
min: 1063     avg: 1436     median: 1477 (4%)     max: 1540 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Multi 64 Bit
788 Points (5%)
min: 482     avg: 642     median: 650 (4%)     max: 682 Points
Cinebench R15 - Cinebench R15 CPU Single 64 Bit
166 Points (50%)
min: 131     avg: 142.4     median: 143 (43%)     max: 147 Points
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Multi 64 Bit
7.6 Points (10%)
Cinebench R11.5 - Cinebench R11.5 CPU Single 64 Bit
1.7 Points (41%)
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Single (32bit)
min: 4542     avg: 4556     median: 4557.5 (28%)     max: 4565 Points
Cinebench R10 - Cinebench R10 Rend. Multi (32bit)
min: 13249     avg: 16322     median: 17230.5 (12%)     max: 17578 Points
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 1024m *
368.2 s (4%)
wPrime 2.10 - wPrime 2.0 32m *
12.9 s (3%)
WinRAR - WinRAR 4.0
2455 Points (4%)
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Multli Thread 4 runs
min: 15825     avg: 16929     median: 17024.5 (10%)     max: 17508 MIPS
7-Zip 18.03 - 7-Zip 18.03 Single Thread 4 runs
min: 3502     avg: 3541     median: 3538 (42%)     max: 3580 MIPS
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 2
39.2 fps (14%)
X264 HD Benchmark 4.0 - x264 Pass 1
134.8 fps (31%)
HWBOT x265 Benchmark v2.2 - HWBOT x265 4k Preset
min: 3.35     avg: 3.9     median: 4 (7%)     max: 4.15 fps
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Serpent
0.4 GB/s (0%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt Twofish
0.7 GB/s (12%)
TrueCrypt - TrueCrypt AES
4.4 GB/s (11%)
Blender - Blender 2.79 BMW27 CPU *
min: 680     avg: 704     median: 694 (5%)     max: 796 Seconds
R Benchmark 2.5 - R Benchmark 2.5 *
min: 0.734     avg: 0.7     median: 0.7 (16%)     max: 0.804 sec
3DMark 06 - CPU - 3DMark 06 - CPU
min: 5044     avg: 5951     median: 5950.5 (13%)     max: 6857 Points
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 1M *
12 s (3%)
Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 2M *
27.8 s (1%)
Super Pi Mod 1.5 XS 32M - Super Pi mod 1.5 XS 32M *
697 s (3%)
3DMark Vantage - 3DM Vant. Perf. CPU no Physx
18229 Points (16%)
3DMark 11 - 3DM11 Performance Physics
min: 5213     avg: 6267     median: 6402.5 (17%)     max: 6967 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Physics
min: 29562     avg: 32942     median: 30254 (25%)     max: 48997 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Extreme Physics
min: 30656     avg: 34184     median: 31241.5 (25%)     max: 49067 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited Physics
min: 26201     avg: 36686     median: 32088 (27%)     max: 54995 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Cloud Gate Physics
min: 5217     avg: 6435     median: 6613 (17%)     max: 7132 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Fire Strike Standard Physics
min: 7496     avg: 9199     median: 9380 (17%)     max: 10054 Points
3DMark - 3DMark Time Spy CPU
min: 2450     avg: 2660     median: 2696 (11%)     max: 2880 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Single-Core
940 Points (40%)
min: 777     avg: 884     median: 898.5 (38%)     max: 905 Points
Geekbench 5.5 - Geekbench 5.1 - 5.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
3050 Points (5%)
min: 2543     avg: 3076     median: 3155.5 (6%)     max: 3234 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Single-Core
890 Points (4%)
min: 772     avg: 880     median: 896 (4%)     max: 913 Points
Geekbench 5.0 - Geekbench 5.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
3380 Points (11%)
min: 2599     avg: 3035     median: 3118.5 (10%)     max: 3244 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Single-Core
min: 3400     avg: 3785     median: 3893 (39%)     max: 3924 Points
Geekbench 4.4 - Geekbench 4.1 - 4.4 64 Bit Multi-Core
min: 10099     avg: 11388     median: 11783 (13%)     max: 12171 Points
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Single-Core
3669 Points (50%)
Geekbench 4.0 - Geekbench 4.0 64 Bit Multi-Core
10597 Points (26%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Multi-Core
min: 9503     avg: 12182     median: 13040 (23%)     max: 13145 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 32 Bit Single-Core
min: 3258     avg: 3405     median: 3442.5 (67%)     max: 3478 Points
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Multi-Core
13873 Points (22%)
Geekbench 3 - Geekbench 3 64 Bit Single-Core
3682 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Stream
6193 Points (50%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Memory
6118 Points (55%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Floating Point
16467 Points (32%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Integer
12317 Points (25%)
Geekbench 2 - 32 Bit - Geekbench Total Score
11917 Points (31%)
Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Kraken 1.1 Total Score *
min: 1101     avg: 1272     median: 1274.5 (1%)     max: 1693 ms
Sunspider - Sunspider 1.0 Total Score *
128.8 ms (1%)
Octane V2 - Octane V2 Total Score
min: 19083     avg: 26794     median: 27809 (25%)     max: 32938 Points
WebXPRT 3 - WebXPRT 3 Score
min: 145     avg: 154     median: 148 (31%)     max: 172 Points
Power Consumption - Prime95 Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 24     avg: 33.7     median: 34.7 (6%)     max: 42.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Consumption - external Monitor *
min: 34.5     avg: 37     median: 38 (7%)     max: 38.5 Watt
Power Consumption - Cinebench R15 Multi Power Efficiency - external Monitor
min: 17.2     avg: 18.1     median: 18.1 (13%)     max: 18.9 Points per Watt

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 7 3780U → 100% n=8

Average Benchmarks AMD Ryzen 5 3500U → 97% n=8

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